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And as it has been pointed out already, said thread was OVER a year old. Did Ford do anything....... NOPE!
As far as they're concerned they sold all the cars they made in 05'. Right, wrong or indifferent, Ford sells their cars to the dealerships, once that transaction is done, it's out of their hands. It sure appears that it's acceptable to them to do it that way.
I had no trouble getting my car at the price I wanted, and it wasn't MSRP either.
So have many people here. I really don't get the argument
Don't like ADM's, ok fine, don't pay them. Problem solved. Am I missing something :scratch:
As far as they're concerned they sold all the cars they made in 05'. Right, wrong or indifferent, Ford sells their cars to the dealerships, once that transaction is done, it's out of their hands. It sure appears that it's acceptable to them to do it that way.
I had no trouble getting my car at the price I wanted, and it wasn't MSRP either.
So have many people here. I really don't get the argument
Don't like ADM's, ok fine, don't pay them. Problem solved. Am I missing something :scratch:
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"A LOST SALE IS NOT GOOD FOR ANY BUSINESS! "
You obviously are not is sales...
A lost sale at a lower margin can be a GOOD thing if you sell it to the next guy a day or so later for $1000 - $2000 more....
You see that is how supply and demand works. As long as the next guy buys at ADM, your supply is less than the demand. If it does not sell at ADM, you supply could be equal to or more than the demand. That is when the price comes down...
The "lost a FORD customer for ever" argument is totally silly. I garuntee you that just as many people get pissed at the other dealers/makes in the area for what ever reason and go looking at the others makes including FORD...
As for your comparison of the Gas price gouging and ADM, that is silly as well. Gas is more or less a necessity for most people ( Unless you can use public transportation ). Mustangs GTs on the other hand are not exactly a necessity ( ok they might be to some...) ...
If you cannot see the difference between the two, I am sorry....
Like I said before:
"You do not get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate"...
You obviously are not is sales...
A lost sale at a lower margin can be a GOOD thing if you sell it to the next guy a day or so later for $1000 - $2000 more....
You see that is how supply and demand works. As long as the next guy buys at ADM, your supply is less than the demand. If it does not sell at ADM, you supply could be equal to or more than the demand. That is when the price comes down...
The "lost a FORD customer for ever" argument is totally silly. I garuntee you that just as many people get pissed at the other dealers/makes in the area for what ever reason and go looking at the others makes including FORD...
As for your comparison of the Gas price gouging and ADM, that is silly as well. Gas is more or less a necessity for most people ( Unless you can use public transportation ). Mustangs GTs on the other hand are not exactly a necessity ( ok they might be to some...) ...
If you cannot see the difference between the two, I am sorry....
Like I said before:
"You do not get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate"...
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I agree that to the average joe, the dealership represents the company. To me my dealership is Ford.
I refused to pay a mark-up and searched quite a few dealerships before finally getting one who'd even give me the time of day. And then it still took a few hours to get it at msrp, which isn't much of a deal.
Add the fact, EVERY Ford service department I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with has been terrible. They disregard you once you have purchased the car and seem rude and ignorant of their own products.
After dealing with many Ford dealerships in my area, this will most probably be my last Ford product ever.
I understand the reason for mark-ups, and if people pay them, then good for the dealership, money is why they exist, but to completely disregard a potential customer and send them walking, how is that good business? Most of the dealerships would not even negotiate with me.
I refused to pay a mark-up and searched quite a few dealerships before finally getting one who'd even give me the time of day. And then it still took a few hours to get it at msrp, which isn't much of a deal.
Add the fact, EVERY Ford service department I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with has been terrible. They disregard you once you have purchased the car and seem rude and ignorant of their own products.
After dealing with many Ford dealerships in my area, this will most probably be my last Ford product ever.
I understand the reason for mark-ups, and if people pay them, then good for the dealership, money is why they exist, but to completely disregard a potential customer and send them walking, how is that good business? Most of the dealerships would not even negotiate with me.
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Originally posted by sranger@December 13, 2005, 5:54 PM
"A LOST SALE IS NOT GOOD FOR ANY BUSINESS! "
You obviously are not is sales...
A lost sale at a lower margin can be a GOOD thing if you sell it to the next guy a day or so later for $1000 - $2000 more....
You see that is how supply and demand works. As long as the next guy buys at ADM, your supply is less than the demand. If it does not sell at ADM, you supply could be equal to or more than the demand. That is when the price comes down...
The "lost a FORD customer for ever" argument is totally silly. I garuntee you that just as many people get pissed at the other dealers/makes in the area for what ever reason and go looking at the others makes including FORD...
As for your comparison of the Gas price gouging and ADM, that is silly as well. Gas is more or less a necessity for most people ( Unless you can use public transportation ). Mustangs GTs on the other hand are not exactly a necessity ( ok they might be to some...) ...
If you cannot see the difference between the two, I am sorry....
Like I said before:
"You do not get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate"...
"A LOST SALE IS NOT GOOD FOR ANY BUSINESS! "
You obviously are not is sales...
A lost sale at a lower margin can be a GOOD thing if you sell it to the next guy a day or so later for $1000 - $2000 more....
You see that is how supply and demand works. As long as the next guy buys at ADM, your supply is less than the demand. If it does not sell at ADM, you supply could be equal to or more than the demand. That is when the price comes down...
The "lost a FORD customer for ever" argument is totally silly. I garuntee you that just as many people get pissed at the other dealers/makes in the area for what ever reason and go looking at the others makes including FORD...
As for your comparison of the Gas price gouging and ADM, that is silly as well. Gas is more or less a necessity for most people ( Unless you can use public transportation ). Mustangs GTs on the other hand are not exactly a necessity ( ok they might be to some...) ...
If you cannot see the difference between the two, I am sorry....
Like I said before:
"You do not get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate"...
How are you able to guarantee me that "just as many people get pissed at other dealers"? You CAN'T. You just made that up. Like most of your posting it is supposition and fiction. You're basing your argument on the assumption that one customer not paying ADM will be replaced by one who will. Where are you pulling THAT from? What if 10 customers don't buy with ADM, but 1 does? :bang:
If you want to talk silliness, your refusal to see that ANY sale walking away means less units moved per (insert measure of time here) is obtuse in the extreme. I've seen GT's on lots for WEEKS with markups, and, as previously said, know people who walked and bought elsewhere (ok, maybe they'll buy a Ford in a couple of years - but as for "silly", that's a lost customer).
I suppose I can't win this argument, so long as you base your comments on the imaginary. As far as facts go, a lost sale is a lost sale, however you may wish to assume that the next guy through the door will make it all ok.
And for the record, my GT was quoted over email at MSRP. I went down to the dealer, where they then tried the ADM con on me, and I told them where to stick it. I got my car MSRP. That's bait 'n' switch. No doubt you're a fan of that too?
Oh, and since the thread was originally about Ford's interest in ADM's and how they affect Ford, please educate me as to how a dealer moving less vehicles, but at a greater margin FOR THEMSELVES is in Ford's best interests?
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Look, I based my comments on one simple fact.....
FORD sold every mustang GT they could make in 05 and will most likely repeat the same in 06. No amount of customer pleasing would have changed that simple fact.
SO THE FACT IS THAT ADM DID NOT prevent any of the Mustang GT from being sold. The fact is that the next guy did indeed buy the car ( even it it did not include AMD )
You see the dealer may have realised that the cars were not moving with ADM and adjusted his price to sell them. That is how supply and demand works.
It might not be what you want to hear, but that does not mean it is not reality....
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And for the record, my GT was quoted over email at MSRP. I went down to the dealer, where they then tried the ADM con on me, and I told them where to stick it. I got my car MSRP. That's bait 'n' switch. No doubt you're a fan of that too?"
I feel so sorry for you that you had to negotiate to get the deal you wanted. I am sure it was very tramatic for you. Who would have ever thought that you would have to negotiate on one of the hotest selling cars in the country that was in short supply... Simply horrable...
P.S. I got mine for $500 under MSPR, but I did have to negotiate....It was awfull...I nearly cryed....
FORD sold every mustang GT they could make in 05 and will most likely repeat the same in 06. No amount of customer pleasing would have changed that simple fact.
SO THE FACT IS THAT ADM DID NOT prevent any of the Mustang GT from being sold. The fact is that the next guy did indeed buy the car ( even it it did not include AMD )
You see the dealer may have realised that the cars were not moving with ADM and adjusted his price to sell them. That is how supply and demand works.
It might not be what you want to hear, but that does not mean it is not reality....
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And for the record, my GT was quoted over email at MSRP. I went down to the dealer, where they then tried the ADM con on me, and I told them where to stick it. I got my car MSRP. That's bait 'n' switch. No doubt you're a fan of that too?"
I feel so sorry for you that you had to negotiate to get the deal you wanted. I am sure it was very tramatic for you. Who would have ever thought that you would have to negotiate on one of the hotest selling cars in the country that was in short supply... Simply horrable...
P.S. I got mine for $500 under MSPR, but I did have to negotiate....It was awfull...I nearly cryed....
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While we all are smart enough to understand the principles of supply and demand and how it applies to this situation, I think everyone reacts differently to ADM.
Some people want what they want and buy what they want, price is not the primary decision
Other people want to pay as little as possible and fight tooth and nail for every penny on the plate
For me personally, I want a deal I can feel good about and would never pay ADM for anything, especially a luxury item I didn't need. I've bought and sold quite a few cars and know all the in's and out's of a new car deal. Last time I looked at Stangs a month ago, the dealer had 20 stangs on the lot and were still trying to get ADM's. I walked out and told them I'd never buy a car from them because of it.
Again, only speaking for myself, I find ADM's insulting. It tells me alot about the dealership and what they think of thier customers.
I have the ability and desire to buy the new GT-500 Vert but have resigned myself to the fact that I probably won't get one becuase I refused to pay ADM. I'm disappointed, but maybe I'll luck out in year two or will end up buying a used one. Either way, it's a lost sale for someone
BTW: I'm in sales (computers, but the same principles apply) and we would NEVER do this, our long term reputation is too important to risk for a short term gain
Some people want what they want and buy what they want, price is not the primary decision
Other people want to pay as little as possible and fight tooth and nail for every penny on the plate
For me personally, I want a deal I can feel good about and would never pay ADM for anything, especially a luxury item I didn't need. I've bought and sold quite a few cars and know all the in's and out's of a new car deal. Last time I looked at Stangs a month ago, the dealer had 20 stangs on the lot and were still trying to get ADM's. I walked out and told them I'd never buy a car from them because of it.
Again, only speaking for myself, I find ADM's insulting. It tells me alot about the dealership and what they think of thier customers.
I have the ability and desire to buy the new GT-500 Vert but have resigned myself to the fact that I probably won't get one becuase I refused to pay ADM. I'm disappointed, but maybe I'll luck out in year two or will end up buying a used one. Either way, it's a lost sale for someone
BTW: I'm in sales (computers, but the same principles apply) and we would NEVER do this, our long term reputation is too important to risk for a short term gain
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Originally posted by sranger@December 14, 2005, 7:27 AM
Look, I based my comments on one simple fact.....
FORD sold every mustang GT they could make in 05 and will most likely repeat the same in 06. No amount of customer pleasing would have changed that simple fact.
SO THE FACT IS THAT ADM DID NOT prevent any of the Mustang GT from being sold. The fact is that the next guy did indeed buy the car ( even it it did not include AMD )
You see the dealer may have realised that the cars were not moving with ADM and adjusted his price to sell them. That is how supply and demand works.
It might not be what you want to hear, but that does not mean it is not reality....
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And for the record, my GT was quoted over email at MSRP. I went down to the dealer, where they then tried the ADM con on me, and I told them where to stick it. I got my car MSRP. That's bait 'n' switch. No doubt you're a fan of that too?"
I feel so sorry for you that you had to negotiate to get the deal you wanted. I am sure it was very tramatic for you. Who would have ever thought that you would have to negotiate on one of the hotest selling cars in the country that was in short supply... Simply horrable...
P.S. I got mine for $500 under MSPR, but I did have to negotiate....It was awfull...I nearly cryed....
Look, I based my comments on one simple fact.....
FORD sold every mustang GT they could make in 05 and will most likely repeat the same in 06. No amount of customer pleasing would have changed that simple fact.
SO THE FACT IS THAT ADM DID NOT prevent any of the Mustang GT from being sold. The fact is that the next guy did indeed buy the car ( even it it did not include AMD )
You see the dealer may have realised that the cars were not moving with ADM and adjusted his price to sell them. That is how supply and demand works.
It might not be what you want to hear, but that does not mean it is not reality....
"
And for the record, my GT was quoted over email at MSRP. I went down to the dealer, where they then tried the ADM con on me, and I told them where to stick it. I got my car MSRP. That's bait 'n' switch. No doubt you're a fan of that too?"
I feel so sorry for you that you had to negotiate to get the deal you wanted. I am sure it was very tramatic for you. Who would have ever thought that you would have to negotiate on one of the hotest selling cars in the country that was in short supply... Simply horrable...
P.S. I got mine for $500 under MSPR, but I did have to negotiate....It was awfull...I nearly cryed....
I'll leave you to wallow in your self perceived superiority. :worship: Clown. Buy a dictionary.
ps. as for your one simple fact - there are STILL 05's for sale, and plenty of them. Hardly being snapped up before they hit the showroom floor, eh?
ANOTHER item of fiction. Good work, keep it up.
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Add also (for Ford), "You can only be as successful as you are competitive.".
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Originally posted by celticstanger@December 13, 2005, 3:56 PM
for every sucker, there's someone who goes to Toyota - perhaps never to shop Ford again.
for every sucker, there's someone who goes to Toyota - perhaps never to shop Ford again.
Tom French of Hermosa Beach, Calif., says the first Toyota dealer he visited initially resisted adding "market value" markups.
But five months after French put down a deposit on a Highlander hybrid, "we received a call from another salesman who informed us that the price would include $2,000 for market value."
French canceled the order and went to another dealer.
"We've been very firm with our dealers about holding the line on MSRPs (manufacturer suggested retail price)," said Toyota spokesman John Hanson.
"From the customer satisfaction point of view, the wait is enough of an inconvenience without having to worry about additional dealer markups," he said.
These days, that's an unusual dilemma for automakers. "It's up to the dealer to negotiate the price," said Ford's Olson. "We tell customers to shop around for the best deal."
But five months after French put down a deposit on a Highlander hybrid, "we received a call from another salesman who informed us that the price would include $2,000 for market value."
French canceled the order and went to another dealer.
"We've been very firm with our dealers about holding the line on MSRPs (manufacturer suggested retail price)," said Toyota spokesman John Hanson.
"From the customer satisfaction point of view, the wait is enough of an inconvenience without having to worry about additional dealer markups," he said.
These days, that's an unusual dilemma for automakers. "It's up to the dealer to negotiate the price," said Ford's Olson. "We tell customers to shop around for the best deal."
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Lets see...
Your fact is that the automotve sales slowed down over the last few months...
However you forgot to mention that is also true of almost EVERY auto manufacture out there. Of course, in your mind it is all because of ADM...... Silly...
You also made my point for me when you pointed out that you did not have to buy with an ADM. You correctly used your right to say NO....
What more do you want????
With all of the problems that FORD ( and others ) have with pention funds, Healthcare, Union contracts, etc.... I am sure a dealer adding a couple of K to a hot selling ( small market ) car it on the top of their "to do" list....
Lets put it terms that you might understand. Lets say you want to sell your Mustang and you are willing to take say $25,000. Do you advertise it for $25,000 or do you add a little more to give you room to negotiate??????
Have you ever stopped to think that a dealer might be willing to sell at MSRP ( or below ) might ask more initially simple to have room to move?
That is exactly what my dealer did. He had a 2k AMD, I said NO, He offered MSRP and I pointed out it had a little scratch on the A Piller and he offered to fix it or give me $500 off MSPR. Do you see how easy this works... Do you think I should have pitched a fit and ran crying and telling everyone how mean this dealer ( and FORD ) by association was...?
Your fact is that the automotve sales slowed down over the last few months...
However you forgot to mention that is also true of almost EVERY auto manufacture out there. Of course, in your mind it is all because of ADM...... Silly...
You also made my point for me when you pointed out that you did not have to buy with an ADM. You correctly used your right to say NO....
What more do you want????
With all of the problems that FORD ( and others ) have with pention funds, Healthcare, Union contracts, etc.... I am sure a dealer adding a couple of K to a hot selling ( small market ) car it on the top of their "to do" list....
Lets put it terms that you might understand. Lets say you want to sell your Mustang and you are willing to take say $25,000. Do you advertise it for $25,000 or do you add a little more to give you room to negotiate??????
Have you ever stopped to think that a dealer might be willing to sell at MSRP ( or below ) might ask more initially simple to have room to move?
That is exactly what my dealer did. He had a 2k AMD, I said NO, He offered MSRP and I pointed out it had a little scratch on the A Piller and he offered to fix it or give me $500 off MSPR. Do you see how easy this works... Do you think I should have pitched a fit and ran crying and telling everyone how mean this dealer ( and FORD ) by association was...?
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Originally posted by SixtySix+December 13, 2005, 5:38 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SixtySix @ December 13, 2005, 5:38 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>And as it has been pointed out already, said thread was OVER a year old. Did Ford do anything....... NOPE!
As far as they're concerned they sold all the cars they made in 05'. Right, wrong or indifferent, Ford sells their cars to the dealerships, once that transaction is done, it's out of their hands. It sure appears that it's acceptable to them to do it that way.
I had no trouble getting my car at the price I wanted, and it wasn't MSRP either.
So have many people here. I really don't get the argument
Don't like ADM's, ok fine, don't pay them. Problem solved. Am I missing something :scratch:
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As far as they're concerned they sold all the cars they made in 05'. Right, wrong or indifferent, Ford sells their cars to the dealerships, once that transaction is done, it's out of their hands. It sure appears that it's acceptable to them to do it that way.
I had no trouble getting my car at the price I wanted, and it wasn't MSRP either.
So have many people here. I really don't get the argument
Don't like ADM's, ok fine, don't pay them. Problem solved. Am I missing something :scratch:
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Originally posted by celticstanger@December 14, 2005, 10:46 AM
Take a look at the sales numbers over the last few months.
I'll leave you to wallow in your self perceived superiority. :worship: Clown. Buy a dictionary.
ps. as for your one simple fact - there are STILL 05's for sale, and plenty of them. Hardly being snapped up before they hit the showroom floor, eh?
ANOTHER item of fiction. Good work, keep it up.
Take a look at the sales numbers over the last few months.
I'll leave you to wallow in your self perceived superiority. :worship: Clown. Buy a dictionary.
ps. as for your one simple fact - there are STILL 05's for sale, and plenty of them. Hardly being snapped up before they hit the showroom floor, eh?
ANOTHER item of fiction. Good work, keep it up.
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I agree.
Add also (for Ford), "You can only be as successful as you are competitive.".
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EXACTLY. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your point of view) there really isn't much competition for the Mustang right now. The GTO is Ugly and most would choose a Mustang with ADM over the GTO for the same (approximate) money, IMHO. I think that, at least in that segment, Ford is more than competitive...
I also don't find the name-calling necessary. I thought you were above that...
I would never infer that ADM's HELP sales, I just don't believe they hurt them as much as some would believe. Otherwise there wouldn't be ADM's because people wouldn't buy them.
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Originally posted by PACETTR@December 14, 2005, 10:33 PM
I also don't find the name-calling necessary. I thought you were above that...
I also don't find the name-calling necessary. I thought you were above that...
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Originally posted by mr-mstng@December 15, 2005, 12:10 PM
Play nice, or I'll ask Scothew to give each of you C/Ts.
Play nice, or I'll ask Scothew to give each of you C/Ts.
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Originally posted by sranger@December 13, 2005, 3:15 PM
The point is:
IT IS SUPPLY AND DEMAND and it is not personal, it is business.
And NO, I do not think FORD cares or will be hurt by the practice that has been going on at all dealers of all makes and models as long as there has been auto dealers.
NEW HOT MODEL = ADM Get over it....
The point is:
IT IS SUPPLY AND DEMAND and it is not personal, it is business.
And NO, I do not think FORD cares or will be hurt by the practice that has been going on at all dealers of all makes and models as long as there has been auto dealers.
NEW HOT MODEL = ADM Get over it....
Dead on Jeff. Maybe they should start teaching Supply and Demand in high school. It's a commonly misunderstood topic. Let me ask all of these people complaining about ADMs a question. Say your house is valued at 150k. Do you want anyone telling you that you can't sell it for more than that? ADMs are completely fair and legit, though difficult to swallow. I don't like them, and try to avoid ever dealing with a dealer who uses them. The point is, it's done at the dealer level so deal with it at the dealer level. Just be happy we know as much about the pricing of vehicles as we do. It's makes it much easier to bargain and find a deal.
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Ok, so they don't affect Ford? I know people who've walked because of them, and most posters here have admitted that they avoid dealers who use them. This means some Mustangs aren't selling/selling more slowly than they might otherwise. This would be a reason for Ford to take an interest. I'm not making stuff up here, nor chiming in with opinion - IF I KNOW PEOPLE WHO'VE WALKED FROM A MUSTANG PURCHASE BECAUSE OF ADM'S, FORD HAVE LOST A CUSTOMER, PERIOD. Wax lyrical all you like about market forces, supply and demand, lost sales aren't what Ford needs right now, even if the dealerships earn enough of a margin increase to their bottom line, even with lost sales. :bang:
As far as me selling something (car, house, paper cups, moist towelettes, etc), I wouldn't advertise it at $x, but then when a buyer turns up, tell them I've changed my mind and have decided to sell for $x+y, just cos a lot of people had shown interest. That's essentially what ADMs are.
As for using the supply and demand argument, there's a time and a place for it, and general retail isn't it. You don't go to the store with a bag of cash/stack of credit cards, just incase there's been a rush on toothpaste/trash bags/Bud, and the store may have decided to hike the price of those goods accordingly, do you???
My hope is that these slugs who conduct biz in this manner end up losing everything, and that they and their families have to live the next year off of the few quick G's they conned.
Oh, forgot to mention, EVEN IF THE DEALERS ARE MAKING A GOOD BUCK OFF ADM'S, THE FACT THAT THEY REDUCE OVERALL SALES NUMBERS (NOT OPINION - KNOWN FACT) IS NOT IN FORD'S BEST INTERESTS.
ps, Ford didn't sell every 05 GT as quickly as they could build them. Do a quick search and you'll find a TON in dealerships
As far as me selling something (car, house, paper cups, moist towelettes, etc), I wouldn't advertise it at $x, but then when a buyer turns up, tell them I've changed my mind and have decided to sell for $x+y, just cos a lot of people had shown interest. That's essentially what ADMs are.
As for using the supply and demand argument, there's a time and a place for it, and general retail isn't it. You don't go to the store with a bag of cash/stack of credit cards, just incase there's been a rush on toothpaste/trash bags/Bud, and the store may have decided to hike the price of those goods accordingly, do you???
My hope is that these slugs who conduct biz in this manner end up losing everything, and that they and their families have to live the next year off of the few quick G's they conned.
Oh, forgot to mention, EVEN IF THE DEALERS ARE MAKING A GOOD BUCK OFF ADM'S, THE FACT THAT THEY REDUCE OVERALL SALES NUMBERS (NOT OPINION - KNOWN FACT) IS NOT IN FORD'S BEST INTERESTS.
ps, Ford didn't sell every 05 GT as quickly as they could build them. Do a quick search and you'll find a TON in dealerships
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Ok,
First, these dealers will eventually lower their price to below MSRP if the cars do not move. ( again simple Supply and demand ) A Guy ( or gal ) who buys one of these cars will be telling everyone how great the dealer was. ( and no I do not have proof, but it is common sense )
Please post these dealers that have all of these 05' Mustang GT left in stock. I am sure the guys here would love to get a bargan on a year end close out...
I checked about a dozen local dealers in the Atlanta GA area and none have any 05 Mustang GT's in stock. Some have a few 06' and some have some 05' Saleen models ( which have a huge ADM on them )
I'll also let you in on another little secrete you may not have though of....
Ford dealers sell more than just Mustangs. In fact the Mustangs are not even the highest selling vehicle at almost all Ford Dealerships. Sometimes it is a wise business decision to over price a hot car like a Mustang GT to keep it from selling too fast. That is right, I said to KEEEP IT FROM SELLING...
You see, a car like this attract people to the dealership to look at it even if they might not actually want to buy it. It is kind of like having a hot chick in a bikini on the showroom floor. Even if you hated the dealer for ADM's you would probably still stop by to look at the hot chick would you not?
These people who come to "look" will most likely not be offended by the ADM because they are not trying to buy it in the first place. However, another model might catches their eye.
Getting people to the dealership is the hardest part for any dealership.
Sure, you might **** off a few people like you, but it may lead to selling a significant quantity of OTHER cars/trucks/suv's simply by having one on the lot for people to look at....
Did you ever think of that??????
First, these dealers will eventually lower their price to below MSRP if the cars do not move. ( again simple Supply and demand ) A Guy ( or gal ) who buys one of these cars will be telling everyone how great the dealer was. ( and no I do not have proof, but it is common sense )
Please post these dealers that have all of these 05' Mustang GT left in stock. I am sure the guys here would love to get a bargan on a year end close out...
I checked about a dozen local dealers in the Atlanta GA area and none have any 05 Mustang GT's in stock. Some have a few 06' and some have some 05' Saleen models ( which have a huge ADM on them )
I'll also let you in on another little secrete you may not have though of....
Ford dealers sell more than just Mustangs. In fact the Mustangs are not even the highest selling vehicle at almost all Ford Dealerships. Sometimes it is a wise business decision to over price a hot car like a Mustang GT to keep it from selling too fast. That is right, I said to KEEEP IT FROM SELLING...
You see, a car like this attract people to the dealership to look at it even if they might not actually want to buy it. It is kind of like having a hot chick in a bikini on the showroom floor. Even if you hated the dealer for ADM's you would probably still stop by to look at the hot chick would you not?
These people who come to "look" will most likely not be offended by the ADM because they are not trying to buy it in the first place. However, another model might catches their eye.
Getting people to the dealership is the hardest part for any dealership.
Sure, you might **** off a few people like you, but it may lead to selling a significant quantity of OTHER cars/trucks/suv's simply by having one on the lot for people to look at....
Did you ever think of that??????
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Don't like ADM's, ok fine, don't pay them. Problem solved. Am I missing something :scratch:
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I agree. I answered with my feet. I had arrogant dealers tell me that I couldn't get a GT Vert in March for list. I found a dealer that wanted to sell me the car for list plus $500 for a $100 alarm. That was a better deal than the 5 to 7K rape charge.
One great thing about a car that had a ADM is that it is a very hot used car and will almost always have a higher than average resale price.
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I agree. I answered with my feet. I had arrogant dealers tell me that I couldn't get a GT Vert in March for list. I found a dealer that wanted to sell me the car for list plus $500 for a $100 alarm. That was a better deal than the 5 to 7K rape charge.
One great thing about a car that had a ADM is that it is a very hot used car and will almost always have a higher than average resale price.
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