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Electrical Issues Made for a Interesting Ride Home Tonight

Old Oct 25, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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Electrical Issues Made for a Interesting Ride Home Tonight

I had a pretty interesting ride home tonight. About 8 miles away from my house the ABS dash light came on and I got a check the traction control message on the info screen. The car still seemed ok I tested the brakes and they felt fine. I drive a couple more miles and traffic got a little backed up well my radio dropped out. Then a few more miles my head lights turned off. Of course at this point I'm pretty close to my parents place so I am praying to make it there. I keep distance from the car in front of me and was able to get into my parents neighborhood where I lost all power. My father and I took a look at the car. I wasn't able to start it up until just a few minutes ago. We checked the battery and it's not getting a charge. I hooked the XCal2 up and got a P0340 and P0344 error code but I've had them for about a week. The car has been running fine um...well until now. Any thoughts as to what might be going on? I'm thinking alternator.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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Sounds to me as though the alternator is done.



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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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I think you right, sounds like the typical symptoms when the alternator dies
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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I found out the codes you show are for the camshaft position sensor.

Camshaft Position Sensor Circuit Malfunction
What does that mean?

This indicates that a problem was detected in the camshaft position sensor circuit. Since it says circuit, that means the problem could lie in any part of the circuit - the sensor itself, the wiring, or the PCM. Don't just replace the CPS (camshaft position sensor) and think that will definitely fix it.
Symptoms

Symptoms can include:
  • Hard starting or no start
  • Rough running / misfiring
  • Loss of engine power
Causes

A code P0340 could mean one or more of the following has happened:
  • a wire or connector in the circuit could be grounded/shorted/broken
  • the camshaft position sensor may have failed
  • the PCM may have failed
  • there exists an open circuit
  • the crankshaft position sensor may have failed
Possible Solutions

With a P0340 OBD-II trouble code, diagnosis can be tricky at times. Here are some things to try:
  • Visually inspect all the wiring and connectors in the circuit
  • Check for continuity in the circuit wiring
  • Check the operation (voltage) of the camshaft position sensor
  • Replace the camshaft position sensor as required
  • Check the crankshaft position circuit as well
  • Replace circuit wiring and/or connectors as required
  • Diagnose/replace the PCM as required
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by theedge67
I found out the codes you show are for the camshaft position sensor.
When the alternator fails these cars can and have been known to throw that code

Richard
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by USMC0341
I think you right, sounds like the typical symptoms when the alternator dies
Originally Posted by 06GT4RAD
Sounds to me as though the alternator is done.



RIchard
+1...
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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I've had this happen too (not THIS 'stang, my '72). It is a sick feeling knowing your ride is dying while driving it. I had forgotten before reading your post and it all came back in a rush...

Good luck and hope this resolves it for you!
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 02:40 AM
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Here's the TSB...I think I posted it on another thread as well. ???
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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Many of us have had alternators go out, mine did too. Since I bought my 06 GT I couldn't let the car sit for 1 week without the battery going dead. One day I jump started it, ran it for about 5-10 mins, cut it off then tried to start it again with no luck. Then I went to jump start it again and when I hooked up the cables the alternator went up in smoke! Not figuritively, LITERALLY! It was a LOT of smoke everywhere! Scared the crap out of me! I replaced the alternator and the battery and have never had a problem since.

I just read another horror story about a guy with a Roush that had a similar incident. He took his to the dealer. They replaced the alternator and it went up in flames, severe fire damage. Fortunately mine didn't do any damage because I cought it immediately! Replace the alternator and (if needed) the battery and you'll be all set. -Joe
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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Thanks everyone for your feedback. I have been busy with my best friends wedding all weekend and just got a chance to read the forum again. How much should I expect to pay for a new alternator?
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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They are $300 - $400 for the stocker and about the same for aftermarket. Dustin installed an aftermarket one. See post #23 here:
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...ernator&page=3

And you can purchase the aftermarket one here:
http://www.lethalperformance.com/pag...lternator.html
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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I am getting the P0340 code also, but I am getting surging at constant speeds (highway driving) and some bucking. No electrical issues at all.
Also out of warranty.

Replace the sensors?
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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