dont you guys find it amazing...
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i think its amazing that ford competes with GM 50-60K sports car with a 30-35K car..
ford doesnt even bother with a 50K+ sports car
GM puts out a 500hp 60k vette
so ford builds a 500hp cobra for 35..40k for convert
then at the red light when the vetter owner says "ha mines still a vette" you can pimp slap him with a 20k wad of 100's
hehe
ford doesnt even bother with a 50K+ sports car
GM puts out a 500hp 60k vette
so ford builds a 500hp cobra for 35..40k for convert
then at the red light when the vetter owner says "ha mines still a vette" you can pimp slap him with a 20k wad of 100's
hehe
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Originally posted by jcopin@December 6, 2004, 11:26 AM
i think its amazing that ford competes with GM 50-60K sports car with a 30-35K car..
ford doesnt even bother with a 50K+ sports car
GM puts out a 500hp 60k vette
so ford builds a 500hp cobra for 35..40k for convert
then at the red light when the vetter owner says "ha mines still a vette" you can pimp slap him with a 20k wad of 100's
hehe
i think its amazing that ford competes with GM 50-60K sports car with a 30-35K car..
ford doesnt even bother with a 50K+ sports car
GM puts out a 500hp 60k vette
so ford builds a 500hp cobra for 35..40k for convert
then at the red light when the vetter owner says "ha mines still a vette" you can pimp slap him with a 20k wad of 100's
hehe
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Originally posted by adrenalin@December 6, 2004, 11:41 AM
Hate to open the GTO can but that looks to be a better comparison than your vette suggestion.
Hate to open the GTO can but that looks to be a better comparison than your vette suggestion.
Also, in the original post, some real numbers would help support your statement. (Vette is 400HP@$44.5K = 9.99HP per $1k) We don't know exact HP for Cobra or the Z06 yet if those were the numbers you were trying to work with.
EDIT: I used base prices on all vehicles because without options because without options you are basically paying for vehicle performance and not creatuer comforts, which was the point of this thread I believe.
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Originally posted by jcopin@December 6, 2004, 12:46 PM
im just going according to last year...
im just going according to last year...
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The Mustang and the Corvette are two totally different cars. I am a HUGE Mustang fan, but I never understood why or who decided the Corvette should be our main competition after GM got rid of their Pony cars. We are comparing a 25K 4-seater to a 55k 2-seater. One is designed mainly for street and drag use, the other mainly for touring and road track. Does that meant that is all they are limited to? Of course not, but when taken out of those roles you see a good amount of mods put to use to better suit it them the new respective task. Sure the Cobra can be made as fast as the Corvette, but the Corvette can be made as fast as a Lambo or Ferrari (well I guess it is now anyways). Are you going to see a Mustang at Le Mans? Are you going to see a Corvette crusing around town on a Friday night with your 3 best freinds along for the ride? When Mustang wants to compete with a Corvette it comes out with the Cobra R. It went from a regular 30k Cobra to a 50k (or was it 54K?) 2 seat race/street ready big cube monster. Then it was a much more fair comparison.
If Corvette guys want to look down on us, who cares? We spent less than half the money they did, and can still run with them a good amount of the time. With a few mods, almost always. But for us to aspire Corvette preformance out of our Mustangs is kind of unfair not only to the tradition of the Mustang (affordable customizable fun for all whether it be V6 thru SCV8 vs. high powered sports car in Corvette), but to the designers who work hard to give us the car we have now (most importantly at the price we have now). Also keep in mind when the best bang for the buck awards come out year after year, the Mustang and Corvette both win...in their own respective car classes.
P.S. How does this thread have anything to do with the 2005 Mustang?
If Corvette guys want to look down on us, who cares? We spent less than half the money they did, and can still run with them a good amount of the time. With a few mods, almost always. But for us to aspire Corvette preformance out of our Mustangs is kind of unfair not only to the tradition of the Mustang (affordable customizable fun for all whether it be V6 thru SCV8 vs. high powered sports car in Corvette), but to the designers who work hard to give us the car we have now (most importantly at the price we have now). Also keep in mind when the best bang for the buck awards come out year after year, the Mustang and Corvette both win...in their own respective car classes.
P.S. How does this thread have anything to do with the 2005 Mustang?
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Originally posted by bigred0383@December 6, 2004, 10:34 PM
P.S. How does this thread have anything to do with the 2005 Mustang?
P.S. How does this thread have anything to do with the 2005 Mustang?
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Originally posted by jcopin@December 6, 2004, 11:26 AM
i think its amazing that ford competes with GM 50-60K sports car with a 30-35K car..
im just going according to last year
i think its amazing that ford competes with GM 50-60K sports car with a 30-35K car..
im just going according to last year
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Originally posted by bigred0383+December 6, 2004, 9:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bigred0383 @ December 6, 2004, 9:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-jcopin@December 6, 2004, 11:26 AM
i think its amazing that ford competes with GM 50-60K sports car with a 30-35K car..
im just going according to last year
i think its amazing that ford competes with GM 50-60K sports car with a 30-35K car..
im just going according to last year
Neither of which have 500 hp. I don't think he knows what he was comparing.
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I'm actually more upset that Ford still has no answer for the Vette. No the Thunderbird doesn't count. It should but it doesn't. The previous Cobra doesn't count either. HP does not a car make.
Corvette has a lot more going for it and that is factored into the price.
Corvette has a lot more going for it and that is factored into the price.
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Originally posted by BlackRiderX@December 6, 2004, 11:11 PM
I'm actually more upset that Ford still has no answer for the Vette. No the Thunderbird doesn't count. It should but it doesn't. The previous Cobra doesn't count either. HP does not a car make.
Corvette has a lot more going for it and that is factored into the price.
I'm actually more upset that Ford still has no answer for the Vette. No the Thunderbird doesn't count. It should but it doesn't. The previous Cobra doesn't count either. HP does not a car make.
Corvette has a lot more going for it and that is factored into the price.
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Originally posted by holderca1+December 6, 2004, 11:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (holderca1 @ December 6, 2004, 11:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-BlackRiderX@December 6, 2004, 11:11 PM
I'm actually more upset that Ford still has no answer for the Vette. No the Thunderbird doesn't count. It should but it doesn't. The previous Cobra doesn't count either. HP does not a car make.
Corvette has a lot more going for it and that is factored into the price.
I'm actually more upset that Ford still has no answer for the Vette. No the Thunderbird doesn't count. It should but it doesn't. The previous Cobra doesn't count either. HP does not a car make.
Corvette has a lot more going for it and that is factored into the price.
That's what I mean of course.
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what i meant was for a lot less money the cobra.. (i can only imagine how sick the 06 cobra will be)... holds its ground against the vette
i love the 05 vette.. but i have a feeling the 06 cobra is going to be insane especially when you consider its price..cheaper than the tbird lol
i love the 05 vette.. but i have a feeling the 06 cobra is going to be insane especially when you consider its price..cheaper than the tbird lol
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Originally posted by bigred0383@December 6, 2004, 9:34 PM
The Mustang and the Corvette are two totally different cars. I am a HUGE Mustang fan, but I never understood why or who decided the Corvette should be our main competition after GM got rid of their Pony cars. We are comparing a 25K 4-seater to a 55k 2-seater. One is designed mainly for street and drag use, the other mainly for touring and road track. Does that meant that is all they are limited to? Of course not, but when taken out of those roles you see a good amount of mods put to use to better suit it them the new respective task. Sure the Cobra can be made as fast as the Corvette, but the Corvette can be made as fast as a Lambo or Ferrari (well I guess it is now anyways). Are you going to see a Mustang at Le Mans? Are you going to see a Corvette crusing around town on a Friday night with your 3 best freinds along for the ride? When Mustang wants to compete with a Corvette it comes out with the Cobra R. It went from a regular 30k Cobra to a 50k (or was it 54K?) 2 seat race/street ready big cube monster. Then it was a much more fair comparison.
If Corvette guys want to look down on us, who cares? We spent less than half the money they did, and can still run with them a good amount of the time. With a few mods, almost always. But for us to aspire Corvette preformance out of our Mustangs is kind of unfair not only to the tradition of the Mustang (affordable customizable fun for all whether it be V6 thru SCV8 vs. high powered sports car in Corvette), but to the designers who work hard to give us the car we have now (most importantly at the price we have now). Also keep in mind when the best bang for the buck awards come out year after year, the Mustang and Corvette both win...in their own respective car classes.
P.S. How does this thread have anything to do with the 2005 Mustang?
The Mustang and the Corvette are two totally different cars. I am a HUGE Mustang fan, but I never understood why or who decided the Corvette should be our main competition after GM got rid of their Pony cars. We are comparing a 25K 4-seater to a 55k 2-seater. One is designed mainly for street and drag use, the other mainly for touring and road track. Does that meant that is all they are limited to? Of course not, but when taken out of those roles you see a good amount of mods put to use to better suit it them the new respective task. Sure the Cobra can be made as fast as the Corvette, but the Corvette can be made as fast as a Lambo or Ferrari (well I guess it is now anyways). Are you going to see a Mustang at Le Mans? Are you going to see a Corvette crusing around town on a Friday night with your 3 best freinds along for the ride? When Mustang wants to compete with a Corvette it comes out with the Cobra R. It went from a regular 30k Cobra to a 50k (or was it 54K?) 2 seat race/street ready big cube monster. Then it was a much more fair comparison.
If Corvette guys want to look down on us, who cares? We spent less than half the money they did, and can still run with them a good amount of the time. With a few mods, almost always. But for us to aspire Corvette preformance out of our Mustangs is kind of unfair not only to the tradition of the Mustang (affordable customizable fun for all whether it be V6 thru SCV8 vs. high powered sports car in Corvette), but to the designers who work hard to give us the car we have now (most importantly at the price we have now). Also keep in mind when the best bang for the buck awards come out year after year, the Mustang and Corvette both win...in their own respective car classes.
P.S. How does this thread have anything to do with the 2005 Mustang?
But that's where the similarity ends.
One is a two-seat, full-on sports car...the other is a four-seat (sort of) grand touring muscle car with a V6 sibling for the econo-crowd.
It would be more appropriate to compare the Corvette to the Ford GT supercar, although clearly the GT is yet another notch up the sports car pole from the Vette (though the new Z06 might help close that gap a little).
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Originally posted by jcopin@December 7, 2004, 1:30 AM
...but i have a feeling the 06 cobra is going to be insane especially when you consider its price..cheaper than the tbird lol
...but i have a feeling the 06 cobra is going to be insane especially when you consider its price..cheaper than the tbird lol