Does the new Mustang have a black box?
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This article:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132056,00.html
on Fox News says
Personally I find this troubling on so many levels. Anyone know anything about it? I mean if you cause an accident, the black box isn't going to help you in court. And I don't trust the government with the ability to tie my shoes, let alone put a black box in my car.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132056,00.html
on Fox News says
Black boxes (search), or "EDRs" have been fitted into every General Motors car in its 2004 line and is in a number of Ford models — about 15 percent of all vehicles on the road today, according to road safety experts.
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Most likely.
Worst thing is, you render the car undriveable if you try to disable it.
I just found out I have one in my car, and it angers me- NOT because I am out doing something bad, but because I am being monitored.
Worst thing is, you render the car undriveable if you try to disable it.
I just found out I have one in my car, and it angers me- NOT because I am out doing something bad, but because I am being monitored.
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I just talked to a mechanic yesterday about this and he said that this is not anything new. He said they had that in a 1995 Lincoln Town car way back then. His beef was, only the dealerships had the equipment to read it.
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I might be in the minority here but I don't mind that they use them...as long as it is only used for improving the car and getting info on how the car performed during a crash. When they start to use them in courts to see who is at fault, then I don't like them.
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From the 05 Mustang owners manual:
Event Data Recording
Other modules in your vehicle — event data recorders — are capable of
collecting and storing data during a crash or near crash event. The
recorded information may assist in the investigation of such an event.
The modules may record information about both the vehicle and the
occupants, potentially including information such as:
• how various systems in your vehicle were operating;
• whether or not the driver and passenger seatbelts were buckled;
how far (if at all) the driver was depressing the accelerator and/or the
brake pedal;
• how fast the vehicle was traveling; and
• where the driver was positioning the steering wheel.
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Event Data Recording
Other modules in your vehicle — event data recorders — are capable of
collecting and storing data during a crash or near crash event. The
recorded information may assist in the investigation of such an event.
The modules may record information about both the vehicle and the
occupants, potentially including information such as:
• how various systems in your vehicle were operating;
• whether or not the driver and passenger seatbelts were buckled;
how far (if at all) the driver was depressing the accelerator and/or the
brake pedal;
• how fast the vehicle was traveling; and
• where the driver was positioning the steering wheel.
The Boss Hog
#10
Originally posted by EleanorsMine@October 6, 2004, 10:44 AM
Most likely.
Worst thing is, you render the car undriveable if you try to disable it.
I just found out I have one in my car, and it angers me- NOT because I am out doing something bad, but because I am being monitored.
Most likely.
Worst thing is, you render the car undriveable if you try to disable it.
I just found out I have one in my car, and it angers me- NOT because I am out doing something bad, but because I am being monitored.
#11
I don't mind that at all. Maybe because I'm not surprised at all about them being there in the first place but to be honest if you drive like a sain person like one should be driving then you shouldn't have anything to sorry about and no matter what the other person would be the person at fault. The EDR's are probably apart of the on board computer systems, so that all the dealers have to do is plug in and use their computers to record all the data to disk incase of an accident.
#12
I don't get what the big deal is. If you're driving like a nut when you cause an accident, then you deserve what's coming to you, whether or not there are enough witnesses to vouch for your usual driving habits or whatever.
It's not like they'll come in at night and write you tickets for every time you went over the posted speed limit. Sheesh...I'd rather be in an accident, not be at fault, and have the EDR back up that story. Ever think of that?
I think you're taking this big brother thing too far. They're not monitoring you long term, as many cookies that we pick up on the web do.
It's not like they'll come in at night and write you tickets for every time you went over the posted speed limit. Sheesh...I'd rather be in an accident, not be at fault, and have the EDR back up that story. Ever think of that?
I think you're taking this big brother thing too far. They're not monitoring you long term, as many cookies that we pick up on the web do.
#13
The things only record for like 5 seconds (in a loop). They may bump it up to 15. Since I'm pretty sure only you have permission to accesss it, I don't think it is an invasion of privacy. Sadly, even if you don't, the argument is "public roads, public property".
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