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Ok, here's a chance to be critic for a day. Not of the Mustang, but Ford's Mustang team. Which of these Mustangs is the best executed design? Which does its job, be it street machine, Concept Road Racer, or Conecept-Teaser, best?
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I think the V6 effort takes the cake. Putting in a better engine thats easilly modified, and 5 speed auto really moves the car up a notch. The GT will be much improved, but V8 coupe fans are V8 coupe fans. With the interior upgrade package, better performance, a squeak free ride, better safety and brakes really makes a hugely better car for the young buyers that wont kill them on insurance. The V6 coupe usually is the "conquest" vehicle(takes other make's buyers), the current car does not have much to offer 19-23k shoppers in the "sporty coupe" market right now. Never forget that the V6 coupe sales pay for all the SE's and SVT's to get developed. With the newer "quiet steel" technology of the F-150, the V6 is going to be light years smoother and quieter. They can "tune" the firewall to only allow certain frequencies of sound, so only certain motor noises are heard.
Still, my only real beef's with the car are
1. THE MIRRORS! and
2. who decided to dump the 60's style pull-**** for the lights? I liked that on stangs.
Still, my only real beef's with the car are
1. THE MIRRORS! and
2. who decided to dump the 60's style pull-**** for the lights? I liked that on stangs.
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I think everything about teh production car is wonderful. It's a far more realistic car in my opinion and I think the softer lines and slighly rounded and simpler surfaces really makes this mustang a show stopper
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I chose the concept because it's got an independant rear suspension... and anyway the front end is much better looking on the concept, the production version is blunt, almost truck like...
Another disapointment is that ford did not go with with a more fuel efficient engine for the base model such as the modern 3.0L duratec engine, as fuel prices keep going up this might influence sales big time, my guess is that the V6 4.0L cars will guzzle gas almost as much as the GT.
Another disapointment is that ford did not go with with a more fuel efficient engine for the base model such as the modern 3.0L duratec engine, as fuel prices keep going up this might influence sales big time, my guess is that the V6 4.0L cars will guzzle gas almost as much as the GT.
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Production GT
why.. the concept is just that... a concept,
the production looks to be on paper, the best built, most thought out Mustang ever designed, I hope I manage to make it become my first car
why.. the concept is just that... a concept,
the production looks to be on paper, the best built, most thought out Mustang ever designed, I hope I manage to make it become my first car
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Thought the Concept had the best, most nuanced styling. The production GT's good, very good, but lacks that Nth degree of finesse and finish of the Concept.
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i find the concept too brick like. Some aspects I like on it but for the most part i think it's a fantasy and to me it may as well have not ever been made... As a matter of fact you can't even really call it a concept because the mustangs design was decided on before the concept was built. It's more of a styling exercise. I thought it was neet but it never made me go WOW. Now when the first photos came out of the4 production GT I wnet WOW and got that feeling i had when i was 17 and got my very first car. Like it was the greatest car in the world. No car has ever done that to me except the new GT and my first car. The Concept GT was as Rhumb said the most nuanced yes but that was IMO because it was a party dress or a ball gown. The Production mustang is a great pair of familiar jeans and you know what...that's the way i like it!
Even the Vanquish wich to me is the greatest styled car in the universe didn't do that to me.
Even the Vanquish wich to me is the greatest styled car in the universe didn't do that to me.
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I say the V6 only because it doesn't have the fog lights. Give me a fog light and spoiler delete option even at no credit for the V8 stang.
Now add the GT-R grill, a shaker scoop, tail-light treatment from a 70 Mach, rocker panel treatment from a 70 Mach, and 340 to 350 hp and I'm there brother.
then again I think Ford also needs to stroke the 4.6 a tad bit so you could lay down some stripes with 289 CID on the hood.
Course this is off forum, but since the camaro and firebird are yet to be ressurected, why doesn't Dodge step up to the plate with a HEMI cuda. Does anybody think they could sell a ton of these or what?
Now add the GT-R grill, a shaker scoop, tail-light treatment from a 70 Mach, rocker panel treatment from a 70 Mach, and 340 to 350 hp and I'm there brother.
then again I think Ford also needs to stroke the 4.6 a tad bit so you could lay down some stripes with 289 CID on the hood.
Course this is off forum, but since the camaro and firebird are yet to be ressurected, why doesn't Dodge step up to the plate with a HEMI cuda. Does anybody think they could sell a ton of these or what?
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Originally posted by bob@Jun. 2nd, 2004, 5:42 PM
Course this is off forum, but since the camaro and firebird are yet to be ressurected, why doesn't Dodge step up to the plate with a HEMI cuda. Does anybody think they could sell a ton of these or what?
Course this is off forum, but since the camaro and firebird are yet to be ressurected, why doesn't Dodge step up to the plate with a HEMI cuda. Does anybody think they could sell a ton of these or what?
oh yeah, and i think the production GT is the best. to me, it seems like the ost perfet car i could hope to have.
#14
I bow down to the 05 GT :worship:
A great design(smooth, simple lines) with a great interior and plenty of power( alot nicer than the concept IMO)
This is how I'll look when driving it B)
A great design(smooth, simple lines) with a great interior and plenty of power( alot nicer than the concept IMO)
This is how I'll look when driving it B)
#15
Originally posted by burningman@Jun. 2nd, 2004, 2:53 PM
I think everything about teh production car is wonderful. It's a far more realistic car in my opinion and I think the softer lines and slighly rounded and simpler surfaces really makes this mustang a show stopper
I think everything about teh production car is wonderful. It's a far more realistic car in my opinion and I think the softer lines and slighly rounded and simpler surfaces really makes this mustang a show stopper
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Originally posted by burningman@Jun. 2nd, 2004, 5:48 PM
i find the concept too brick like. Some aspects I like on it but for the most part i think it's a fantasy and to me it may as well have not ever been made... As a matter of fact you can't even really call it a concept because the mustangs design was decided on before the concept was built. It's more of a styling exercise. I thought it was neet but it never made me go WOW. Now when the first photos came out of the4 production GT I wnet WOW and got that feeling i had when i was 17 and got my very first car. Like it was the greatest car in the world. No car has ever done that to me except the new GT and my first car. The Concept GT was as Rhumb said the most nuanced yes but that was IMO because it was a party dress or a ball gown. The Production mustang is a great pair of familiar jeans and you know what...that's the way i like it!
Even the Vanquish wich to me is the greatest styled car in the universe didn't do that to me.
i find the concept too brick like. Some aspects I like on it but for the most part i think it's a fantasy and to me it may as well have not ever been made... As a matter of fact you can't even really call it a concept because the mustangs design was decided on before the concept was built. It's more of a styling exercise. I thought it was neet but it never made me go WOW. Now when the first photos came out of the4 production GT I wnet WOW and got that feeling i had when i was 17 and got my very first car. Like it was the greatest car in the world. No car has ever done that to me except the new GT and my first car. The Concept GT was as Rhumb said the most nuanced yes but that was IMO because it was a party dress or a ball gown. The Production mustang is a great pair of familiar jeans and you know what...that's the way i like it!
Even the Vanquish wich to me is the greatest styled car in the universe didn't do that to me.
I said production GT. Concept was based on the production first of all. I also think that the production looks much better than the concept. I did like the 400 hp engine and sequential signals though.
GT-R is still a dressed up production. It is the underlying car that makes it great IMO.
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Originally posted by future9er24+Jun. 2nd, 2004, 8:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (future9er24 @ Jun. 2nd, 2004, 8:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-bob@Jun. 2nd, 2004, 5:42 PM
Course this is off forum, but since the camaro and firebird are yet to be ressurected, why doesn't Dodge step up to the plate with a HEMI cuda. Does anybody think they could sell a ton of these or what?
Course this is off forum, but since the camaro and firebird are yet to be ressurected, why doesn't Dodge step up to the plate with a HEMI cuda. Does anybody think they could sell a ton of these or what?
oh yeah, and i think the production GT is the best. to me, it seems like the ost perfet car i could hope to have.[/b][/quote]
Not to stray to far off..here's Dodge's Charger concept...still like the 05 Stang better!