I hate haggling too but sometimes you can hit a wall with the internet stuff.
I "practice haggle"....I go for a test drive on a car that I simply find interesting and when I'm done instead of trying to make an excuse to get out of the dealership I sit down and see how low I can get the price even though I have no intention of buying the car. I don't feel like I'm waisting thier time because if the car had blow me away I would have been interested.

Dealerships (salesmen and sales managers) sence when you are willing to walk out without buying the car...it's a ho-hum attitude on your part that promps them to accept any reasonable offer YOU make. It's when they know that you are there to close a deal that things are harder for you...

 

That makes a lot of sense actually. I'm a "go to the store and buy the milk" kind of person. Window shopping is not my thing.

 

Chevyguy! You pretyy much orderd MY car ! Except have to have the manual!

 

Bear, I love that color. I almost went with the Lime Green though.

Believe me, if this car were for me, it would be a manual as well! My 6 speed in the Vette has me spoiled. I love being able to grab another gear at 80!