2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 07:05 AM
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Before the new Chevy Cobalt two-door has even gone on sale, the bowtie brand has laid out the specs for what will be the hottest Cobalt available, the '05 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe. The SS version of the new Chevy compact will come with a supercharged version of the Ecotec 2.0-liter four that puts out 205 hp. A five-speed manual transmission will be the sole gearbox. In addition to a sport-tuned suspension and better brakes, the Cobalt SS gets 18-inch wheels, sporty cladding and spoilers, spicier interior trim and a new range of colors including Rally Yellow, Black, Orange Metallic, Victory Red and Arrival Blue Metallic. Standard equipment includes air conditioning, power windows and locks, remote keyless entry, a CD player with MP3 playback and a seven-speaker Pioneer premium sound system. No pricing information has been released.
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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Looks like an RSX.
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 07:54 AM
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Actually, I hear the 205 HP number is incorrect. It's supposed to have 220 HP.
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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So that's the F-body replacement...
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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Can't wait to see the creative use of rice on this car..
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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Check out wieck and see the SS Supercharged version
the red one with NASTY spoiler

While the car may be a great little grocery getter....
Baaarffff

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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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It seems there may some more competition for the v-6 and the v-8 coming from toyota. I went to a toyota dealship last night to look at celicas and met a rather intelligent salesman. He told me toyota was slowly probably phasing out the celica to shift its line to the family car as Honda has done. In the celica's spot, there would be a car out called the tC under the Scion nameplate. its very similar to teh celica but a bit more powerful

4 cylinder 16 valve VVTi engine
159 HP and 163 Lb/ft torque. Because Scion is designed to be able to be customized, the tC will be available supercharged from the factory.

the tC spec sheet attatched. its supposed to his dealers this june.
Scion

Then, he told me about a proposed revival of the Supra under a different name. The Vulta is still a concept, but was jsut recently put on Toyotas website as a concept, perhaps its entering a phase between concept and production. its ugly as sin in my opinion, but i dont work for toyota.

edit: the tC he said is supposed to start at the same price as a base v6 stang. and he knew quite a bit about the 2005 mustang too so i did have a tnedency to think he was an exception to the rule and knew more about cars than what was on the window sticker.
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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The Vulta sounds really impressive though mechanically. Perhaps if they changed the design.... might even consider it over a mustang

Volta Site


0-60 in 4 seconds! 408 hp from a hybrid engine! kinda makes my jaw drop

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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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too bad the Cobalt is ugly as heck and not RWD which will give it a huge disadvantage
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 02:49 PM
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Thats a lot better than the cavalier. GM keeps pouring only slightly better than mediocre engines in front wheel drive cars. That's stupid. But I'm sure there are quite a few people stupid enough to buy them.
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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If the Volta is produced, I don't think it will be anywhere near the price of a Stang. I'd expect it to be more in the 80-100K price range.
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by pilot1129@Apr. 2nd, 2004, 2:03 PM
In the celica's spot, there would be a car out called the tC under the Scion nameplate. its very similar to teh celica but a bit more powerful

4 cylinder 16 valve VVTi engine
159 HP and 163 Lb/ft torque. Because Scion is designed to be able to be customized, the tC will be available supercharged from the factory.
I did extensive research on the tC about 4 or 5 weeks ago. From what I have seen I really like this car. Scion designed the car for people who are desperate for a 3-series BMW but can't afford one. I think they may have hit the mark.

I was really dissapointed to find that it only has 37.6" of front headroom. I can wiggle under 38.0"-38.4" in some cars, but 37.6" is flat out for me. It's that #$%^^# sunroof that comes standard.
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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I saw this car at the MPLS auto show, and I liked it better than I thought I would. It looks better in the metal than on the internet, IMO. 18" wheels look fairly impressive on a car this size.

It's driving the wrong wheels, but with a light 4-banger up front it should still handle decently. It's basically an Ion Redline without the cheesy interior.

The car at the show didn't have the big spoiler. That thing is out of control!
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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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The Cobalt isn't bad. The spoiler on the SS has to go, but otherwise it's really good power for a four and the looks are much better than the crummy old J-car (Cavalier). The Pontiac sister car, the Pursuit, is GAWDAWFUL and I don't know where the two got separated. This is probably a similar powertrain to what they're going to stuff in the Pontiac Solstice (one of the few new designs from Pontiac that I actually love!).

The new tC sounds like it's worth a look (although not as a Mustang replacement, not in my book...a 'Stang's gotta have an eight and the tC won't stack up in that demographic). As for the Vulta though...great tech, awful design. Such is the legacy of Toyota. (At least in my opinion. )
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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I agree Toyota will never be able to sell the Vulta for anywhere near the price of the Stang. Even if they do it'll be a ricer just like the first one was. Turbos and Bling = BARF!!
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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200 Horsepower, with a supercharger????? I have no words to say for this chevy, GO MUSTANG V6!!!!
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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Wow, talk about dredging up the past. It's just an overglorified Cavalier.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 12:29 PM
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Competition?
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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I would agree with the overglolified Cavalier remark....Same thing I think about the GTO as well....The v6 and v8 mustangs put those cars to shame as far as looks and performance in my opinion....
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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ohh i see i see. the new american rice burners.......chevy cobalt and srt-4
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