2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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I've been shopping around and debating buying the 2005 versus waiting for the 2006 because of my previous experience with 2 really bad ford model year vehicles. Anyway I've been reading these forums and shopping locally around the dealerships and I've noticed something odd. We seem to have different options and standard equipment in Canada versus the US.

-All 2005 mustangs I have looked at have the smoking package(ashtray/lighter)my understanding is the US ones do not?
-Spoiler delete is NOT available in Canada. Lame since I wanted a CDC ducktail, anyone know the reason for this?
-Canadian standard equipment for the radio is Shaker 500, there is no lesser option only an upgrade to the 1000. Lame again since I would opt for the cheapest radio and swap it for a XM.
-My 2000 mustang GT had traction control as an option but I was told it is standard equipment in the USA since 1999. Anyone confirm or deny this?

There are probably other things I've missed but it certainly is a bit odd. Perhaps they tailor to the market? However, the no spoiler delete thing is just bizzare.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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Ya. Canadian mustangs have always been optioned differently here. There is no delux or premium here.

For example, when you order a GT in Canada, it comes standard with cruise control, traction control, abs, shaker 500, spoiler etc.... Your only options are Leater, IUP, ICAP, wheels / nuts, anti-theft, airbags, and shaker 1000.

It was like this in 02 when I bought my last mustang, too. There were basically no options available except leather, and upgrade stereo.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:29 PM
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no spoiler delete in Canada...look under the spoiler and you'll see why....yep, made in Canada!
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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V6 cannot have the shaker1000
it can only have the 500 as an option

GT cannot have the base stereo, it has base->500 and 1000 is an option.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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No spoiler delete is because the spoiler is made in Canada? My dealer was trying to find out if he can do me a favour and somehow get me one without. I dont really want to bondo the holes when I remove it. Kind of lame anyway.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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You still need a good base stereo or your XM radio won't sound any good, the XM doesn't come with speakers.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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The explanation I got for Canadian cars is this.

Because the canadian market is so small for Mustangs compared to the US, they need to reduce the number of possible combination of cars on dealer lots. Dealers will have a hard time stocking such a broad variety of Mustangs, because they are not a high volume of cars.

The '06 GT will likely have a spoiler delete in Canada.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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Well since I'm already leaning towards an 06 since I want the titanium color really bad, perhaps I'll spend the next 10 months just lurking on the forums and wishing I had one. If it will have a spoiler delete I'm sold. I've never really cared for the larger spoilers, people just tend to steal them and I dont care for the look. My fiero way back in the day had the spoiler stolen twice and no ones ever even taken a sniff on the semi ducktail spoiler on my 2000 GT. Plus I really think the duck tail look compliments the 2006.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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I have never heard of a spoiler getting stolen. lol.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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It happens a lot especially the large and "desirable" ones like on the fiero GT. Why pay 1700 dollars when you can swipe it and throw it on the back of your civic for free. :angry:
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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Wow, I would never pay that much for a spoiler to begin with, I don't think I have ever seen one that expensive.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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The car is not in production anymore and niether are the spoilers. The spoilers are made in a fiberglass mold that is only good for 3-4 castings then a new one has to be used. No one made a comparable aftermarket spoiler so the only option was to go to pontiac direclty. I dont care for spoilers but that car just had to have it. It didn't look right without it.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:30 AM
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i know this is way off subject but i think the STI Subaru in canada has rear folding seats and the american one doesn't, so I can see there being differences, but i cant see why the manufactures would make them
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 02:18 AM
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Well since I'm already leaning towards an 06 since I want the titanium color really bad, perhaps I'll spend the next 10 months just lurking on the forums and wishing I had one.
lol....welcome to the club! I'm waiting to see if there is going to be a Mach for the '06....
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:26 AM
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If you can't come to the US to get a car without the spoiler, you could always buy a new decklid and sell the old... ebays always an option and you could probably buy one w/o spoiler for the same price you'd be able to sell yours w/ spoiler. Or even better could see if you could get a US dealer to swap decklids with a car on the lot. I'm sure they'd charge but at least you wouldn't have any knicks, scratches etc.

Why do you not have as many options as we do down here? Because its part of our plan to make your life as bland (why is it every time I go to Canada the food has NO taste?) as possible until you become the 51st state. Wahahaha Wahaha WAHAHAHAHA!!! :usa:
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by mizanin@December 15, 2004, 9:29 AM
Why do you not have as many options as we do down here? Because its part of our plan to make your life as bland (why is it every time I go to Canada the food has NO taste?) as possible until you become the 51st state. Wahahaha Wahaha WAHAHAHAHA!!! :usa:
Bland....that is what we think of American beer, or should I say flavoured water

Our food may not have as much "taste" as the US but that is because we don't want the same obesity issue the US has

51st state...ha. Look at the news recently. Since Bush won again a lot of Americans are moving to Canada, including a gentleman who's great great grandfather wrote the American Anthem.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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True, Canadian Beer is better... esp Moosehead, mmmm Moosehead :moose: (how come that, and only that, tastes better in Canada, eh?). And darn right about (read aboot) fat, the few times I've been in Canada and crossed back over its like the people suddenly grow a foot or two - sideways, eh?

As far as Americans moving North, we're infiltrating , eh?. But once we run out of resources, its going to be "um, Canada, get out," eh?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by mizanin@December 15, 2004, 2:10 PM
True, Canadian Beer is better... esp Moosehead, mmmm Moosehead :moose: (how come that, and only that, tastes better in Canada, eh?). And darn right about (read aboot) fat, the few times I've been in Canada and crossed back over its like the people suddenly grow a foot or two - sideways, eh?

As far as Americans moving North, we're infiltrating , eh?. But once we run out of resources, its going to be "um, Canada, get out," eh?
Ya, like you want to infiltrate a colder climate country. Once you realize that all we have is great beer, food, women, health care, education system, and poutine you will want to.....wait a minute...... you would end up staying here!

Get out of my country!
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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We should be together on this one, one big happy family.
Let's pick on the French!!!
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by adrenalin+December 15, 2004, 2:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adrenalin @ December 15, 2004, 2:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mizanin@December 15, 2004, 2:10 PM
True, Canadian Beer is better... esp Moosehead, mmmm Moosehead :moose: (how come that, and only that, tastes better in Canada, eh?). And darn right about (read aboot) fat, the few times I've been in Canada and crossed back over its like the people suddenly grow a foot or two - sideways, eh?

As far as Americans moving North, we're infiltrating , eh?. But once we run out of resources, its going to be "um, Canada, get out," eh?
Ya, like you want to infiltrate a colder climate country. Once you realize that all we have is great beer, food, women, health care, education system, and poutine you will want to.....wait a minute...... you would end up staying here!

Get out of my country! [/b][/quote]
Well I prefer warmth, not much of a beer drinker, have no problem with the food I am eating, I am married, my health care is free for me and my family, I have a pretty good education, what is poutine? You don't have to worry about me moving.
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