Grantsdale

Theres no 17 year old US troops over there. 18, yes. You can be 17 and go through prep training between your junior and senior years of high school, but thats it.

KansasCityTim

Heck, I believe 17 yr olds have been fighting in the armed forces for a long time. I think what happens is you have someone who is not in school for some reason (early grad, dropped out, etc.) and they join the military b/c frankly it is the best financial decision for them and it allows them to get an education as well. Anyway, my point is that it is not anything out of the ordinary to serve at the age of 17.

05GT-O.C.D.

OK, that's what I thought. I didn't think our governmnet would force people to fight for a country that they can't even vote in. God bless the US. Thanks guys.

holderca1

You can enlist at the age of 17 with a parent/guardian's signature.

Go here: http://www.army.com/enlist/requirements.html, the age requirements are the first bullet.

Treadhead

I believa all you need is a waiver signed by your parents. There was a 17yr old in my basic training unit when I went through.

05GT-O.C.D.- President Bush signed into law last year a national concealed carry law for police.

holderca1

Not sure where you got your information, but it's incorrect. You don't even have to finish high school to enlist.

KansasCityTim

Not sure where you got your information, but it's incorrect. You don't even have to finish high school to enlist.
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That's what I was thinking. In WWII (and other war I presume), there were a great deal of kids who dropped out of high school to bravely and courageously serve their country.

iiibdsiil

Receipe for disaster? Heh, this is exactly why I didn't want to even mention what I wanted to put in. Now I have people judging me that don't even know me, typical internet crap.

I have my reasons for wanting to carry, you have your reasons for not wanting me to carry. Fact is, I am responsible enough to have this, and not let it give me an attitude of being superman. So, just like now, the gun will sit in my center console, and it will be there come I need it. But until I actually need it in a life or death situation, which will probably be never, then I know it is there. Besides that, I really shouldn't need to explain myself to be able to fulfill my rights as a citizen of this beautiful contry.

Please, I don't need any more moms, between the girlfriend and my real mom, it is getting real old, real fast.

KansasCityTim

holderca1

I have no problem with the fact that you have a gun, just as long as you know how to use it and take it to a firing range every once in awhile. A recipe for disaster is a gun in the hands of someone that has no idea what they are doing with it.

05GT-O.C.D.

Tread, I didn't know that went into law. That's good to know, you guys have a right to protect yourself regardless of what state your in. Too bad unimportant people (sarcasm) don't have the same rights. It's just a little too complicated to travel. Every state, many counties, cities, heck even local stores have their own laws making it easy for the good guys to make a simple mistake and end up in prison.
I never knew about the 17yr old waiver before. We learn all kinds of stuff here. I'm surprised (but glad) this thread's still open.

Treadhead

A lot of states are starting to recognize ccw permits from other states now. If we can get a ccw for every state then maybe it won't be such a hassle.

HastaLaVista

Wow...powerful point.
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Wow...weak point. The 17 yr olds carrying rifles over there are trained extensively, under command of more experienced personnel, and work in groups under strict orders.

An armed 19-yo in a car does not sound like a good thing - generally. But there are plenty of responsible 19 year olds so lets hold off on passing judgement.

HastaLaVista

If you want to try to avoid arguments, you should preference it with "in my state". Its illegal without a permit in CT, as well as many other states.
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He mentioned "my state" in his first paragraph. If you cannot wait to form a response before getting through the first paragraph perhaps you should not respond.

holderca1

The poster was making a judgment on his age. I was just posting that someone that age can be responsible with a firearm. He may go to a firing range everyday, we don't know that. I was simply making a point about age.

G.T.R.

Keep in mind the fuel line and transmission fluid are right underneath the center console, which is made of 3mm thick plastic. Also, if you have the gun facing backwards, it can shoot right into the fuel tank. I don't know anything about guns, except from what I see on TV, so maybe you all travel with the safety on orsomething, so maybe I am wrong, but just something to consider.

holderca1

Typically you would keep the safety on, but if it's left off, an accidental firing while kept in the center console is highly unlikely since the hammer is not cocked, quite a bit of pressure has to be put on the trigger when the gun is not cocked.

Boomer

I don't know man..... rear end axle hop/chatter can send a BIG shock through the car...

stoic21

I was wondering the same thing. If it discharges it seems like it would do far less damage if it was in the glove box for instance. But then if you have it in the glove box facing the passenger fender it may go through and hit someone in another car. However properly cared for guns don't just discharge, and you sound like a responsible gun owner.

iiibdsiil

It will take a heck of a bump to set the trigger off. Most guns have a drop test performed on them, they are dropped from x amount of feet, and do not fire. Word on the street you can drop a glock out of an airplane and it won't fire, LOL. Probably shatter first.

I am definitely not worry about an accidental discharge. Besides, I thought Mythbusters put the bullet exploding a gas tank myth to rest?