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Old 7/25/05, 04:23 PM
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I noticed today my rear tires seem to be wearing at a much faster rate than the front ones. I'm at a loss as to why this would be.

















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Tom, You ain't right.
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Easy fix... use the gear marked R to get around for awhile and the tire wear should even out.
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i'll agree with you on that one tom. not only do the rear tires wear a lot faster than the front, they also seem to give off this large amount of white smoke. i think we should all band together and write a petition to stop the uneven wear and smoke clouds from the pirelli's
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A. What is your air pressure (check it cold)
B. How often do you rotate your tires, if it is time to rotate at all?
C. Is your alignment set correctly from the factory?
D. What sort of driving do you do? (ie; a mix of highway and surface street? surface street only, predominantly highway? Are you aggressive driver?)

irregular wear on tires typically is a sign of something else (usually a combination of the above), less than 1% of all tires produced are actually defenctive, the other 99% of the time it can be traced to improper installation, operating environment, or operator abuse.

and here is the dirty little secret of OE tires, by and large they are not the cheapest thing the factory can slap on there (within a brand, the OEs probably strive to meet a price point so ultimately they could be a cheaper tire since installing premium tires would jack the price of the car up considerably) a first impression is so important that the OE's typically sacrifce longevity to enhance every other aspect of a vehicles performance (ride, handling, inclement weather handling, etc.)

again back on point,

Do you?

A. check you tires pressure regularly? (at least once a month when the tires are cold)
B. Rotate regularly? (at least every 5 to 7,000 miles)
C. Check your alignment on a regular basis (about twice a year or every 6 months)
D. Your owner's manual should have specific instructions which will override these very general suggestions.


Ultimately your driving style will dictate the life of your tires (eg; driving predominantly in surface streets in heavy traffic in the summer will shorten the life of your tires considerably due to the amount of heat they are exposed to - stoping and turning constantly as well as sitting in traffic allows them to soak up plenty of heat which is the enemy of a tire)

However the #1 thing you can do to extend your tires life is to regularly check tire pressure and maintain the correct tire pressure for optimum life and performance. (mustangers generally have a problem with the OE tire pressure and by and large like to jack it up usually between 5 pounds to the tires maximum branded tire pressure!)
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Originally posted by bob@July 25, 2005, 5:20 PM
A. What is your air pressure (check it cold)
B. How often do you rotate your tires, if it is time to rotate at all?
C. Is your alignment set correctly from the factory?
D. What sort of driving do you do? (ie; a mix of highway and surface street? surface street only, predominantly highway? Are you aggressive driver?)

irregular wear on tires typically is a sign of something else (usually a combination of the above), less than 1% of all tires produced are actually defenctive, the other 99% of the time it can be traced to improper installation, operating environment, or operator abuse.

and here is the dirty little secret of OE tires, by and large they are not the cheapest thing the factory can slap on there (within a brand, the OEs probably strive to meet a price point so ultimately they could be a cheaper tire since installing premium tires would jack the price of the car up considerably) a first impression is so important that the OE's typically sacrifce longevity to enhance every other aspect of a vehicles performance (ride, handling, inclement weather handling, etc.)

again back on point,

Do you?

A. check you tires pressure regularly? (at least once a month when the tires are cold)
B. Rotate regularly? (at least every 5 to 7,000 miles)
C. Check your alignment on a regular basis (about twice a year or every 6 months)
D. Your owner's manual should have specific instructions which will override these very general suggestions.
Ultimately your driving style will dictate the life of your tires (eg; driving predominantly in surface streets in heavy traffic in the summer will shorten the life of your tires considerably due to the amount of heat they are exposed to - stoping and turning constantly as well as sitting in traffic allows them to soak up plenty of heat which is the enemy of a tire)

However the #1 thing you can do to extend your tires life is to regularly check tire pressure and maintain the correct tire pressure for optimum life and performance. (mustangers generally have a problem with the OE tire pressure and by and large like to jack it up usually between 5 pounds to the tires maximum branded tire pressure!)

Great advice Bob, but I only have 2500 miles on them, so it's not time to rotate. The pressure is ok too.
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Originally posted by bob@July 25, 2005, 4:20 PM
A. What is your air pressure (check it cold)
B. How often do you rotate your tires, if it is time to rotate at all?
C. Is your alignment set correctly from the factory?
D. What sort of driving do you do? (ie; a mix of highway and surface street? surface street only, predominantly highway? Are you aggressive driver?)

etc....etc....etc..
Seems like someone's sarcasm meter is a little off
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Maybe the rest of us are just interpreting this smiley wrong
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i was actually being serious. what....you mean you were being sarcastic tom????

lol...i like this thread
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No, the jester was interpreted correctly.
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Originally posted by ex-Galaxie500@July 25, 2005, 5:55 PM
Maybe the rest of us are just interpreting this smiley wrong

Me? Sarcastic?? Never!!!
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You will find that the rubber is collecting on the top of the inner fender ,in fact you haven't lost any of your tire at all ....just "misplaced it"
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That's an idea! Maybe you can glue it back on!
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Maybe "rearranged" would be better than "misplaced"? Do me a favor Tony and try gluing yours first....let us know how that works out for ya.
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LOL!!
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I think that he was just letting the smoke out of the tire. Seems to be alot of that in the Pirellis.
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Originally posted by Fryguy@July 25, 2005, 9:20 PM
I think that he was just letting the smoke out of the tire. Seems to be alot of that in the Pirellis.

Yea, maybe you can get a can of factory OEM smoke and re-install it.
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That is one thing tires and electronics have in common. Magic smoke. The difference is electronics only have a small amount and if it gets out they are done. Tires on the other hand have too much smoke. Some has to be let out for them to function properly. There is however a limited supply and once you let it all out the tires will need to be replaced. Like elecronics there is no way to put the magic smoke back in your tires.
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Originally posted by 66stang351@July 25, 2005, 8:34 PM
That is one thing tires and electronics have in common. Magic smoke. The difference is electronics only have a small amount and if it gets out they are done. Tires on the other hand have too much smoke. Some has to be let out for them to function properly. There is however a limited supply and once you let it all out the tires will need to be replaced. Like elecronics there is no way to put the magic smoke back in your tires.
B) True. However, adding chips with Supercharger; Turbo's and/or Nitrous will effectively raise the smoke quotient by a factor of at least 3. Proper dyno tune may even raise your fun factor to a level 5, on a scale of 1-5, while increasing a higher smoke quotient. These modifications will provide the mechanism to ensure proper smoke letting to the enjoyment of all.... basic boy-toy car physics 101


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