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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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UPDATE.... .. after the last email exchange with my dealer, I may not be getting the GT/CS w/nav after all... I might be going shopping again or waiting for the 08...
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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UPDATE.... .. after the last email exchange with my dealer, I may not be getting the GT/CS w/nav after all... I might be going shopping again or waiting for the 08...
Just what was in that email exchange, pray tell?

Inquiring minds want to know.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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OK, I have a quick question about the operation of this factory NAV unit...

since it's DVD-based, can this head unit play music/mp3 CD's (from another slot) while you are operating the navigation system from the dvd disc? That would suck if you can't listen to any cd's while you're running the nav unit.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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Well looks like I will be contacting kevin when I get some funds together. LOL **** it, here we go again. So you can do satellite, aux jack, nav, play dvd's, 6 disc, bluetooth, etc. Is that correct?
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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OK, I have a quick question about the operation of this factory NAV unit...

since it's DVD-based, can this head unit play music/mp3 CD's (from another slot) while you are operating the navigation system from the dvd disc? That would suck if you can't listen to any cd's while you're running the nav unit.
The faceplate is motorized and opens up to reveal the DVD NAV slot in behind. It is separate from the 6-disc in-dash changer, so you can listen to discs and use your NAV at the same time.

I believe it will play mp3 discs, but not from rewritable discs.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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Well looks like I will be contacting kevin when I get some funds together. LOL **** it, here we go again. So you can do satellite, aux jack, nav, play dvd's, 6 disc, bluetooth, etc. Is that correct?
You can do everything you listed above, but you cannot play DVDs. That is not the intention of this machine.

You also cannot input certain information with the touchpad while the car is in motion...at least that's how it is with the factory installed unit >>

In order to prevent the navigation system from distracting the driver,
access to certain functions are restricted when the vehicle is traveling
above 5 MPH. (For example, only QUICK DEST (Destination) items are
available for destination entry. Refer to Destination Programming).
When the vehicle is in motion, the following functions are restricted:

• Scrolling of long lists
• Continuous scrolling of map
• Editing/Adding entries in the Address Book and Avoid Areas List
• DVD ROM Load and Eject

When the vehicle begins to move, and the Select Route Screen is shown,
the highlighted route is automatically selected and guidance begins.
When the vehicle speed is reduced to 5 MPH or less, system restrictions
are lifted and you have full access to the system.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood_North GT
The faceplate is motorized and opens up to reveal the DVD NAV slot in behind. It is separate from the 6-disc in-dash changer, so you can listen to discs and use your NAV at the same time.

I believe it will play mp3 discs, but not from rewritable discs.

It will play MP3 CDs on CD-R media just fine. Even correctly reads ID3v2 tags which the Shaker systems cannot.

It will not play DVDs or read DVD-rs with MP3s on them. The unit has 2 drives in it, one dedicated to the nav DVD and the other a 6 CD changer with MP3 capability. Really wish the changer drive could have read DVD-r but it does not.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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Well until they can play dvd's that seems like a waste of money for me. I would like to play movies as well. After all most of the time I know where I am going, so nav aint all that important too me, unless your traveling a lot its just another toy I guess, see ya
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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Yes it would be nice to have a part number for the visteon install, I called them to see what they are selling them direct for, and they are not even aware of an upgrade, aftermarket kit. I hate it when companies dont even know what there selling. thanks for any info
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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I got my Mustang today! The nav is nice and I really like the touch screen feature.
Attached Thumbnails Any TMS Members With Factory NAV In Their Stangs Yet?-mmustang3.jpg  
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 02:08 AM
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I got my Mustang today! The nav is nice and I really like the touch screen feature.
CONGRATULATIONS...you're the first!



OK, horseshoes and hand grenades; I'm a-gonna be next!

Now let's see some more pics. Wide shots, tight shots, shots at night...shots without the stupid cellophane over the screen - that kinda thing.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 06:51 AM
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I considered it but it's overpriced for what you get. I picked up a Pioneer AVIC-N3 for half of what Ford is asking and it WILL play DVDs.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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I considered it but it's overpriced for what you get. I picked up a Pioneer AVIC-N3 for half of what Ford is asking and it WILL play DVDs.
A head unit that plays DVDs on the indash display while underway is illegal and Ford could not offer it. This unit is used with the rear seat entertainment systems for the explorer/expedition but that is not a mustang.

I liked the Pioneer unit but it was not OEM, does not match the dash or backlighting, attracts thieves and lowers resale value. To me anyway, it was worth a few hundred extra for the OEM unit with a factory warranty.
An aftermarket unit will always be somewhat cheaper.

Does the AVIC-N3 have dual drives so it can nav and play mp3s at the same time?
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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Does anyone have one of the NAV units factory installed in a GT500?

I finally got my unit back and installed yesterday and it now work about 95% correctly. Visteon claims they are aware of a problem between the NAV unit and the GT500 PCM. Something to do with the data stream and vehicle speed data. They tell me an update will be comming and that even the factory installed units in the GT500 have this error. It is minor and only really effects the speed volume function, not navigation which works off its own internal gyro and the GPS data.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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TISPCO:: Congrats, yours was shipped 4 days after mine and I havent seen mine yet.....what package is the shift **** and bezel... I dont think I have that on my GT/CS and I got every option there was....
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jcthorne
A head unit that plays DVDs on the indash display while underway is illegal and Ford could not offer it. This unit is used with the rear seat entertainment systems for the explorer/expedition but that is not a mustang.

I liked the Pioneer unit but it was not OEM, does not match the dash or backlighting, attracts thieves and lowers resale value. To me anyway, it was worth a few hundred extra for the OEM unit with a factory warranty.
An aftermarket unit will always be somewhat cheaper.

Does the AVIC-N3 have dual drives so it can nav and play mp3s at the same time?

The Pioneer unit won't play DVDs while driving either without some minor modifications. None will due to said laws. They are the gold standard when it comes to in-dash navigation. Combined with XM Navtraffic they are unbeatable. The N3 DOES have two drive bays so you can keep the nav DVD loaded and still listen to your CDs or watch another DVD. I'm not so sure about attacting thieves, the display is concealed in the head unit and the face plate is removable. My fear is that thieves might think it's the Pioneer AVIC-Z1 with the fixed screen and try to rip it out. They cost North of $2k. The best thing about aftermarket systems is that you simply unplug it and reinstall the stock system when you move on to your next car rather than paying for a factory system over and over again.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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TISPCO:: Congrats, yours was shipped 4 days after mine and I havent seen mine yet.....what package is the shift **** and bezel... I dont think I have that on my GT/CS and I got every option there was....
That's the premier trim pkg, it also comes with a sticthed dask, arm rests, and console cover. I think it also includes aluminum pedals but I can't remember if that was part of the GT Appearance Pkg or the Premier Trim. I ordered mine a while ago but from what I remember, you couldn't get premier trim on a GT/CS.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jcthorne
A head unit that plays DVDs on the indash display while underway is illegal and Ford could not offer it. This unit is used with the rear seat entertainment systems for the explorer/expedition but that is not a mustang.

I liked the Pioneer unit but it was not OEM, does not match the dash or backlighting, attracts thieves and lowers resale value. To me anyway, it was worth a few hundred extra for the OEM unit with a factory warranty.
An aftermarket unit will always be somewhat cheaper.

Does the AVIC-N3 have dual drives so it can nav and play mp3s at the same time?
Precisely. Well said.

I'll just add that the Ford OEM unit IS a Pioneer machine anyway.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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The best thing about aftermarket systems is that you simply unplug it and reinstall the stock system when you move on to your next car rather than paying for a factory system over and over again.
Except that by then your aftermarket system is out of date and you'll be wanting a new one anyway.

Many of today's in-car systems - like the Ford/Pionner OEM NAV/Audio deck - are now good enough that it makes no sense to lower the value of your vehicle and add additional dash rattles and installation scratches just to have an "aftermarket" system.

And, of course, the Ford/Pioneer OEM unit is also warrantied for the full three years of the car's warranty. Try getting more than a maximum of two years with an aftermarket system - unless you want to pay for an extended warranty.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood_North GT
Except that by then your aftermarket system is out of date and you'll be wanting a new one anyway.

Many of today's in-car systems - like the Ford/Pionner OEM NAV/Audio deck - are now good enough that it makes no sense to lower the value of your vehicle and add additional dash rattles and installation scratches just to have an "aftermarket" system.

And, of course, the Ford/Pioneer OEM unit is also warrantied for the full three years of the car's warranty. Try getting more than a maximum of two years with an aftermarket system - unless you want to pay for an extended warranty.

To each his own. If you know what you're doing you won't scratch anything up or have rattles. I would also argue the point that you lower your cars value. I would certainly agree you'll never RAISE the value as much as some might spend putting the systems in. You're an idiot if your only reason for going aftermarket is to simply to "have an aftermarket system". I'll keep my AVIC thank you.
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