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Old 6/27/04, 02:23 AM
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From the order guide:
ACTIVE ANTI-THEFT SYSTEM (14A)
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•On all arrays
Includes:
•Incline sensor
•Interior motion sensor
•Intrusion sensor
•Separate security sounder
So, am I to assume that it doesn't use the horn for the alarm...but rather, a separate siren?

What about when you arm it (or does it do so automatically after closing the doors)? Does it have a "chirp," or does the horn go "honk" (which I hate).

I get what interior motion sensors and intrusion sensors are, but what is an incline sensor? Does that mean that when ya roll 'er doing 120 mph down the highway that the alarm will go off to tell you that you're upside down!
Old 6/27/04, 02:51 AM
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The incline sensor is if you get towed. The car will sense that it has changed it's angle and the alarm will go off. That's my understanding at least, and I've simplified it there.
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Originally posted by Decipher@June 27, 2004, 2:54 AM
The incline sensor is if you get towed. The car will sense that it has changed it's angle and the alarm will go off. That's my understanding at least, and I've simplified it there.
Any alarm will go off if your car is being towed, and it does you no good anyway (Busters sure don't care). Must be something else.
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Remember the movie Twins -Arnold lifts the Cadillac...
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IT alarms when the car is inclined like as in towing (like Decipher said). That way it goes off and non-legit (thieves) towers are supposed to be intimidated.

Not all alarms will go off if towed, only ones with incline sensors (which a lot have).
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I don't know about that, what you guys are describing sound like a mercury switch. The incline sensors can tell a difference between a hill and a tow. After living on a hill for 16yrs, incline sensors on my previous vehilcle and current Jeep were to ensure that they went off when someone messed with it; cheaper alarms were not effective on that steep hill. The mercury switch is a fail safe; to my understanding, alarms are not supposed to go off when towed because things like repos & disabling accidents -imagine a totaled car being towed from an accident scene with the alarm going off. With PA having the hills that we do and cities like Philadelphia -where cars being towed (legit) is a common thing- I think it is to avoid the possible pissing off roadside assistance, yet making the car secure when on a hill.

BTW... Besides, once a thief has it hooked up for towing -it's as good as gone anayways...
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My anti-theft works like this: aim true, pull trigger
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There will be tens of thousands of these cars on the road all with same alarm set up the same way, with all the wiring and components in the same places. I don't think it'll take long for the thieves to figure out how to disarm it.
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That is one of the reasons I chose not to get mine with it!
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Originally posted by kevinb120@June 27, 2004, 1:17 PM
My anti-theft works like this: aim true, pull trigger
Same here....some choice Soprano lines...then...BLAT!!!

Is there anything out there that's self-activaitng----like someone breaks in in middle of night. YES it did happen to me.
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Originally posted by kevinb120@June 27, 2004, 1:17 PM
My anti-theft works like this: aim true, pull trigger
ditto. people dont even roll over in the middle of the night when they hear car alarms... they false alarm constantly.
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Talking

This would be a ccol alarm.
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If the scum want to take your car, they will find a way,
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Originally posted by Kahdir@June 27, 2004, 5:48 PM
This would be a ccol alarm.
Nooooooooooooooooooooo it's trunk monkey!!!

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Originally posted by kevinb120@June 27, 2004, 1:17 PM
My anti-theft works like this: aim true, pull trigger


Yeah, bite this, you scum-licking carjacker!!
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The other option is a Dutch design, I think. It works off propane and puts up a wall of flame when activated. I have seen footage of it! Legal to own, legal to fit, ILLEGAL to use
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I vote for electrified door handles...5000 volts ought to do the job.

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jgsmuzzy-I believe BMW has this option in Europe
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I'd be very suprised if they have, the EU give more rights to criminals than they do to honest people

I am fairly positive they do not offer it in Britain, there would be to many torched Cats!!

Wombert might be able to let you know if they offer it on the Continent.

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Originally posted by Kahdir@June 27, 2004, 6:40 AM
I don't know about that, what you guys are describing sound like a mercury switch. The incline sensors can tell a difference between a hill and a tow. After living on a hill for 16yrs, incline sensors on my previous vehilcle and current Jeep were to ensure that they went off when someone messed with it; cheaper alarms were not effective on that steep hill. The mercury switch is a fail safe; to my understanding, alarms are not supposed to go off when towed because things like repos & disabling accidents -imagine a totaled car being towed from an accident scene with the alarm going off. With PA having the hills that we do and cities like Philadelphia -where cars being towed (legit) is a common thing- I think it is to avoid the possible pissing off roadside assistance, yet making the car secure when on a hill.

BTW... Besides, once a thief has it hooked up for towing -it's as good as gone anayways...
On a hill, it would take a reading of incline when the system is armed and then use that as "level"


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