2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 11:31 PM
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Not really anything new but a decent read anyway......



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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 02:50 AM
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Thanks for the review!
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 02:56 AM
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"...the material qualities of the plastics are rather depressing. Besides being way too busy and having far too many variations in grain and texture, the overall feel is that of discount ABS plastic and melted-down LPs. While this might also be a Mustang trademark, this is one that can stand a rethink. The optional metal panel used on the dash is no better than the plastic it’s meant to hide.

One wonders if they did the research in Southern California, and if locals were involved in the design process. Certainly, anyone who lives in this barrio expects that dozens or even hundreds of hours a year are going to be wasted sitting in unforgiving traffic jams. All the while, the driver is subjected to whatever the interior has to offer. In this case, it can stand to be a more hospitable environment. Maybe “Queer eye for the straight guy†can do a little project with this? While everything is a cost consideration in bringing a product to market, at least give the consumer a choice of an extra cost option to upgrade this plastic door and dash heck."
This is what I was afraid of, and now that more and more journalists are getting a hold of the car, the truth about the interior (even with the IUP) seems to be that - while much better than the outgoing car - it's still very much subpar compared to the imports. :notnice:

I so hoped I would be wrong.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 03:03 AM
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Well whether they dis the interior or not this quote helps redeem it...

"Squeezing the pedal on the right makes one forget just about everything, including some lack-luster interior materials. The 4.6-liter eight cylinder churns out some of the throatiest 300 horses I have ever heard. Even at low speeds, the rumble is pure muscle car. Ford gives the public just what it wants. One drive in a GT, and it might be difficult to settle for the six cylinder. Let me be the first to recommend that those involved with the engine development get a promotion, bonus or raise. So much power for so few dollars is a winning combo in any playbook. I predict many an embarrassed owner of some fairly pricey cars. When a car like this comes straight from the factory ready to kick butt, all I can say is stay the heck out of the way!"

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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 03:29 AM
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If I wanted a BMW interior I would buy a BMW. These journalist are like movie critics that go see an action film and pan it because it isn't Shakespeare. MORONS!
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 03:41 AM
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I agree, I mean what do they want? First they like the pricing, the design, the performance and they also want it to be top quality finish

If we could choose: top quality interior (perfect wood and expensive plastic)
but no 300HP

or mustanglike interior with 300HP

easy choice no ?

I will have the new 05 with its (very few) flaws over anything else, always
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 03:49 AM
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a decent dash kit and all those worries about the interior are gone, I'll take my 2005 mustang the way it is and I'll customize as necessary to get it where I want it. Ford can't make everyone happy. The Mustang has always been about putting the most horsepower for the lowest buck out.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 05:37 AM
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I'd sit on an egg crate with a Charmin seat, looking at a paper mache` dashboard as long as I get my MUSTANG. I am not expecting the interior of a Cadillac. Any Mustang owner who is, ........well, lets not call names.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 05:46 AM
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like NewPony05 says, the Mustang has always been the Best Bang For The Buck (see any Camaros, or Firebirds lately...ha ha), not the best interior for the buck.


spicing up the interior, will take nothing compared to what buying and installing a new engine and computer, etc. would take. As long as my butt is happy in that seat, my pedal foot is happy.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by afcop13@October 1, 2004, 5:40 AM
I'd sit on an egg crate with a Charmin seat, looking at a paper mache` dashboard as long as I get my MUSTANG.
Your remark reminds me of that Saturday Night Live skit, "Lowered Expectations."

I guess if this belief is reflective of the Mustang's core constituency, the new car will sell well to Mustang fanatics.

But you'll never grow market share OUTSIDE the core group that way.

It'll be interesting to read the rest of the automotive reviews as they come in. I have a feeling this will be a recurring theme.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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I don't believe the plastic bit. I've seen the plastic in the F-150 and it's identical to the 05 Mustang's. They are all into the "soft-touch" plastic stuff. While Honda was spending time building a soft-touch rubber dash for their 200 hp FWD Acura RSX, Ford was shoe-horning a 300 hp V8 into a Mustang. It's not hard to see which one will be the victor.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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I can't wait for these things to get out on the streets so I can annoy my father into buying one
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by Robert@October 1, 2004, 7:17 PM
[I guess if this belief is reflective of the Mustang's core constituency, the new car will sell well to Mustang fanatics.

But you'll never grow market share OUTSIDE the core group that way.
and SO BE IT thats why there still is a Mustang around, its not a car for the masses. It is what it is, a Mustang. Once the mustang is designed to appeal to every jane, tom, weiner , and harry as well as moe and frick, it will cease to be a mustang and turn into some boring every man's car. When this happens martyr me for the mustang will ya.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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and SO BE IT thats why there still is a Mustang around, its not a car for the masses. It is what it is, a Mustang. Once the mustang is designed to appeal to every jane, tom, weiner , and harry as well as moe and frick, it will cease to be a mustang and turn into some boring every man's car. When this happens martyr me for the mustang will ya.
I think Ford tried that... it was called the probe
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by Greywolf@October 1, 2004, 4:32 AM
If I wanted a BMW interior I would buy a BMW. These journalist are like movie critics that go see an action film and pan it because it isn't Shakespeare. MORONS!
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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I LOVE THE NEW INTERIOR. STOP LISTENING TO CRITICS. REMEMBER THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE RAVE OVER NISSONS. ENOUGH SAID!
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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Id give up sponge plastic for 4 more cylinders anyday. I think its comical that people buy 58,000 BMW's with 6cyl engines. The word value does not come to mind. I cant wait to see 450hp SVT's modded to 700+ trolling the local friday night strips with screaming superchargers.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by kevinb120@October 1, 2004, 8:14 PM
Id give up sponge plastic for 4 more cylinders anyday. I think its comical that people buy 58,000 BMW's with 6cyl engines. The word value does not come to mind. I cant wait to see 450hp SVT's modded to 700+ trolling the local friday night strips with screaming superchargers.
Some people prefer quality and refinement over brutish stoplight acceleration.

Some people want a balanced measure of both.

I'm the latter...you're obviously the former. Fair enough.

But the fact remains that it takes the new '05 Mustang GT 8 cylinders to do what the BMW M3 does with only 6!

BMW M3: 0-60, 4.8 seconds (300bhp)
'05 Mustang: 0-60, 4.8 - 4.9 seconds (est.) (300bhp)

Don't get me wrong - for the money, nothing beats the looks and performance of the new '05 GT. But I'd happily pay an extra 1 to 2K for "industry standard" plastics in the interior, as opposed to the "Fisher Price" type stuff they seem to be using here. The perception is that they got 70% of the way with the interior, then ran out of money.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by kevinb120@October 1, 2004, 8:14 PM
Id give up sponge plastic for 4 more cylinders anyday. I think its comical that people buy 58,000 BMW's with 6cyl engines. The word value does not come to mind. I cant wait to see 450hp SVT's modded to 700+ trolling the local friday night strips with screaming superchargers.
A lot of BMW's 6 cylinders meet or exceed the performance of other manufacturer's V8s. We own a Jaguar, and I can safely say that although it is an Inline 6 and the car is 8 years old, it is still a more powerful motor than a lot of V8s out there.
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Old Oct 1, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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:scratch: Talk about "Fisher Price" look. Look at any Pontiac interior. They all look like toys with the grey plastic *****. And Pontiac was suppose to be upscale of Ford or Chevy!
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