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Old 10/18/04 | 07:43 AM
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A factory worker reported on another site on Saturday they had 38,000 orders. As of Friday Ford reported that 9,901 units were built. This would be the backlog is 28,099 units which is higher than the 25,000 backorder we started with. Seems like the dealers should not have to gouge people because there will be plenty of sale to go around. I would think with these numbers the majority are not gouging.
Old 10/18/04 | 08:18 AM
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The 9,900 number is too low. People are seeing GT vins of around 6000 being produced. GTs are 1/3 of production, so thats another 12,000 v6s ... so thats 18,000 cars.
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I agree with you Grantsdale, I thought the same thing but you saw the same report I did. Are those reports usually off?
Old 10/18/04 | 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by "Grantsdale"
The 9,900 number is too low. People are seeing GT vins of around 6000 being produced. GTs are 1/3 of production, so thats another 12,000 v6s ... so thats 18,000 cars.
Yes you are correct, however, recently it was reported that the pre-orders were somewhere in the neighborhood of 60% GT and 40% V6ers, so this has been the build schedule. Ford does expect the spread to eventually go back to 35/65 GT/V6 next year. I wish i remember the what article i read this in, i'm sure someone knows where it is.
Old 10/18/04 | 08:31 AM
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VINS aren't produced in order though.
So not a good indicator.

Just because 6000 is a valid VIN on the road, doesn't mean 5999 was produced yet
Old 10/18/04 | 08:33 AM
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Correct, however VINs are assigned in order. So the production date for 5999 was set, and chances are its not more than a few days off of 6000.

sparky: 2mustangjohn posted a week or so ago that gts were at 30% of production. he works at aai.

upstate: i cant answer that because ive never seen those reports before.
Old 10/18/04 | 08:34 AM
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You are right about the vin's but it is a reasonable close number. When they pull orders and assign vins is that radomly done as in we need to pull 2,000 orders so the first Priority 10 (or low number) from the dealers eligable gets pulled and then they look at the specs? Or are the spec looked at as in we need 400 GT's or 350 Torch reds?
Old 10/18/04 | 08:36 AM
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I'm starting to think it was a very good idea to order early.
Old 10/18/04 | 08:37 AM
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They pull whatever available spots they have for the next scheduling week. If they are thinking they can do pull production of 5400 cars, they will pull 5400 ... if they are closed half the week, they may only do 2000.
Old 10/18/04 | 08:38 AM
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Grantsdale those were the reports we looked at yesterday with the yearly total produced from AAI. Do you remember? You couldn't find AAI at first you were looking at Mustangs produced which were the 04 design???
Old 10/18/04 | 08:41 AM
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Scheduled yes....built no.
Barring any holds etc, it still isn't quite a clear indication.

How many people have VINS but aren't built because of IUP hold?
or V6 Manual hold? etc.
They are scheduled but not built.
Are they close, that we don't know.

If you can call 5-10,000 being close..maybe sure.
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Originally posted by upstate@October 18, 2004, 10:41 AM
Grantsdale those were the reports we looked at yesterday with the yearly total produced from AAI. Do you remember? You couldn't find AAI at first you were looking at Mustangs produced which were the 04 design???
No I remember, but before yesterday I've never seen them before, so I don't know how accurate they are.

Boomer: if they are scheduled thats the same as being produced, because they are still taking the production spot up.
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Sorry, assigned ... not scheduled
Old 10/18/04 | 08:49 AM
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oh got ya ... i dont know how many manual v6s there are, but im guessing thats the big hold up on vins being different ... probably around 5000 or so ..
Old 10/18/04 | 08:52 AM
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Yeah, So give or take 5000 off.
In the grand scheme of a possible 190,000 units...not much...
But in the beginning yeah, its a fair ammount.
Old 10/18/04 | 08:55 AM
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Dan, don't worry...we dance to the Ford Canada drum...which is a different beat than our US brethren.

Winter will be a slow time and perfect ordering time.
I'll laugh if we get ours before yours...cause of a Redfire hold B)
Old 10/18/04 | 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by Boomer@October 18, 2004, 10:58 AM
I'll laugh if we get ours before yours...cause of a Redfire hold B)
:nono: I don't think that is funny :bang:














If I can get it around Christmas, we should meet up so I can convince you to order it a.s.a.p..........and to have a look at the car of course!
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Hey - Redfire hold isn't a funny topic!!!!!
Old 10/18/04 | 09:29 AM
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How bout this then...
Its a Canadian Dan hold

Dan, thats a given...
You have to come around to show the car off....
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Originally posted by afcop13@October 18, 2004, 11:00 AM
Hey - Redfire hold isn't a funny topic!!!!!
I don't think so either!


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