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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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Well, all I can say is that when I first started talking to freinds and family about the new stang, a couple of people said that the hood looks to plain and needs a scoop or something to break it up. I think that is why everyone thought the concept hoods were so cool, as well as the Shelby show car hood. I even believe that is why the stripes are so popular on this car. It has a big wide canvas to play with and no body bits to screw up or try to align the stripes with.

The problem (IMHO) is that most of the available hood scoops really look like they were molded in someone's back yard out of a chunk of plywood. They really do have a tacked on look. Of the one's I've seen in person, the Roush scoop looks about the best. I really don't like any of the others (CDC< XENON, 3D, etc)

The CDC shaker is pretty cool and fits the car nicely. The RX Sport califonia dream hood looks pretty cool, but I'm not crazy for the cowl rise in the back. The one I think that looks the nicest is the GEFRacing Legend hood, the scoop is nicely integrated into the lines of the car but non functional. I've had a bad experience in the past with an anftermarket glass hood, so I am wary of jumping on that band wagon until I see a couple on cars and here of their woes in putting it on.

As for spoilers, a well designed front spoiler or air dam will reduce front end lift at freeway speeds. My 83 GT had no airdam, and when I added one, you could see the difference in pictures as well as feel it when you drove. It killed the front end lift in the car. As for a rear spoiler, if well designed, they will have some impact at reducing rear lift, but yes they do cause drag. That's why Nascar always plays with the rear spoiler to control speeds at the big tracks. Back before restrictor plates, hand shaped bodies and all the other downforce add ons we have today, the really fast guys at Daytone would lay the spoilers flat to go fast for the pole. OF course they would get loose and wreck the car from time to time. :shock:

Food for thought

My wife has a Beetle turbo. At 48 mph a rear spoiler pops up at the top of the backlight. At 84 mph, the sunroof, if cracked open, will automatically go shut so it doesn't take air off the rear spoiler and make the car unstable. :scratch:

If you damage the front air dam, the owner's manual says do not drive the car until you get it fixed because stability will be affected at highway speeds and you will overheat the engine. This is a car that was designed to cruise the Autobahn at speed. Crafty Germans
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by Gnirod1@September 8, 2005, 12:30 AM
Aren't the majority of spoilers (OEM and duck tail) on the trunks "non-functional"? People put those on for looks, hardly think that most of them have any affect on down force at all. I can't see much of a difference between decorative hood scoops and decorative trunk spoilers. Perhaps the same paradigm can be applied to the scoops as the spoilers.... that is to say a tall ricey spoiler looks very out of place on the stang. The same would hold true for a large gaudy hood scoop. But, perhaps a conservative scoop can add to the appeal of the hoodline. (Just being the devil's advocate , I still prefer the functional shaker). Just my 2 cents.....
I agree, a spoiler is another functionless part. However, for me a fake hood scoop is worse.

A spoiler does have some tradition with mustangs. The mustangs of old had spoilers which were not functional for the most part.

A non-functional hood scoop to me implies that you are drawing air into the engine when in fact, the hood scoop is simily doing nothing (or adding a bit of drag actually).

I guess its a fine line......I like spoilers and not fake scoops. Eh, depends on the person I guess. The last gen taking fake scoops on every part of the car kind of sours me on them frankly, especially when you see how nice a job you can do without resorting to fake scoops (namely, the hockey stick in the 05/06 doors).
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 04:01 AM
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What is it with all this "non-functional hood scoops don't belong on mustangs snobbery"?

Exhibit A: 1969-1970 GT, Mach 1 and Boss 429.
"The Mach 1 included the GT's non-functional hood scoop. A functional "Shaker" scoop was available." Quote taken from the 1969 timeline.
The big black hood scoops on the legendary Boss 429, considered by some the ultimate Mustang, were also non-functional.

Exhibit B: Most hood scoops on Mustangs between 1974-2004 were non-functional. Two exceptions (that I can remeber) being the 1984-1986 SVO and the 2003-2004 Mach 1s.

So guess what purist? Non-functional hood scoops have a long history in the Mustangs past!
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 08:53 AM
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Actually, the big black Boss nine scoop had a manually operated flapper that you controlled by a pull handle under the lower left side of the dash below the headlight switch.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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I'm guessing the people that hate non-functional items...if around at that time..hated them too...
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by AGBULLIT@September 11, 2005, 6:04 AM
What is it with all this "non-functional hood scoops don't belong on mustangs snobbery"?

Exhibit A: 1969-1970 GT, Mach 1 and Boss 429.
"The Mach 1 included the GT's non-functional hood scoop. A functional "Shaker" scoop was available." Quote taken from the 1969 timeline.
The big black hood scoops on the legendary Boss 429, considered by some the ultimate Mustang, were also non-functional.

Exhibit B: Most hood scoops on Mustangs between 1974-2004 were non-functional. Two exceptions (that I can remeber) being the 1984-1986 SVO and the 2003-2004 Mach 1s.

So guess what purist? Non-functional hood scoops have a long history in the Mustangs past!
Hold on their partner..... Before you get all hot under the collar I never said that it isn't a mustang if it has a fake scoop. I really liked the previous generation even with their fake scoops. All I was saying is that "I" prefer (notice the personal opinion) functional scoops or none at all. A mustang is still a mustang, but everyone can have a few criticisms about what parts the marketing department choses to put on them. Also, to me, the 60's and early 70's mustangs are the true originals. Those are the cars I am refering to by the way.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by Juice@September 11, 2005, 8:56 AM
Actually, the big black Boss nine scoop had a manually operated flapper that you controlled by a pull handle under the lower left side of the dash below the headlight switch.
Thanks Mike I did not know that!

And Dan, it was nothing personal. I also prefer functional scoops, but I like the non-functional ones too. I just felt that someone needed to speak up for those that choose that option.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by AGBULLIT@September 11, 2005, 10:05 PM
Thanks Mike I did not know that!

And Dan, it was nothing personal. I also prefer functional scoops, but I like the non-functional ones too. I just felt that someone needed to speak up for those that choose that option.
No problem. I just want to make it clear that people should do what makes them happy with their car. If that means adding fake scoops, so be it. Really, I was expressing a personal opinion that in retrospect, I would probably keep to myself. Its funny, messageboards have a tendency to make you post whatever you are thinking. Unfortunately everyone is unlikely to agree with my opinion. After rereading my posts I hardly think I was really bashing anyone and therefore the "snobbery" comment didn't go over well to be honest.

However, I say we just forget about it.
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by Mustang69-05@September 7, 2005, 6:31 PM
Looks like alot of holes to drill in the hood.....
[attachmentid=34018]

Here is the Roush Hoodscoop install Instructions so you can see the Process. The 07 Scoop Sure Looks like the ROUSH! Could be one in the same.
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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Heres my opinion on the scoop ,if your going to use one make it work like the CDC.
Theres the punch out in the desighn of the hood for the scoop so why not??
I know there was non funtional ones on mustangs but its a lot cooler when things are working in my opinion.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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UPDATE 12/08/05 Scoop Not Released but Priced. $295.00 Suggested Retail.

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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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On my 35th Anniversary GT, it came with a Non-Functional Scoop. BUT, CDC came out with a System for it, to make it Functional. In lieu of their Shaker System, then under development. I've been talking with them, and am hoping for them to offer it again for our new Stangs. Basically it was just a cut-out with a diaphram added to the Air Box. For the SN95's, it was a nice additive for those who wanted to just add a bolt on Functional Scoop. It mimiced the "Real 35th's" while adding function, without having to do radical mod's that the shaker would require.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by 05stangkc@September 17, 2005, 10:13 AM
[attachmentid=34018]

Here is the Roush Hoodscoop install Instructions so you can see the Process. The 07 Scoop Sure Looks like the ROUSH! Could be one in the same.
Kev,

I think they might be different. The Roush scoop has a rounded back, while the one you provided in the first post is squared.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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Does this one have blinkers on the back of it like the scoop on my 69 model did? I always thought that was a cool little touch.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by ks 69@December 13, 2005, 9:45 PM
Does this one have blinkers on the back of it like the scoop on my 69 model did? I always thought that was a cool little touch.
I always loved that too on my 69.
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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Why would anyone want a non functional hood scoop? And we make fun of ricers?
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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For anybody wanting The FORD hoodscoop Please Post Notify when available for email notification.Most likely early June.

For Current hotsheets email clevparts@aol.com
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by SVTJayC@December 14, 2005, 12:23 AM
Why would anyone want a non functional hood scoop? And we make fun of ricers?
I'm with ya there. I still think the 05 aluminum hood is a work of art. After dealing with all my Fox-up plastic crud(not to mention lousy paint), waxing the hood on the 06 and admiring how flawless it is makes me feel all warm and fuzzy
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