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Old 8/16/04, 05:58 PM
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I love the feature where the windows go down a bit when you open the door, and then back up once you close a door (in order to have a tighter seal).

I saw this on a BMW first, so it MUST be good and Ford is using it on the Mustang. Very pimp, indeed. B)
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I read through the manual, looking for outside temp, and did not find it in the message center! Oh well, I'll have to add a temp/compass Donnelly mirror! One feature I did not know about, but sounds good is where the window will not go all the way up if there is anything in it's path (like my dog who likes to step on the switch when his head is hanging out!) Thanks for posting the manual!
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I'd have to say the ONLY thing I don't like about this car is the Event Data Recorder. Kindof sneaky! Before long, every car will have these and you'll have lawyers subpoena the data for court cases. I suppose it will justify people in the right and maybe regulate the idiots. Hopefully, no offense to anyone. I know there's been plenty of talk about these, just my 2 cents.
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Originally posted by 169stang@August 16, 2004, 11:21 PM
I'd have to say the ONLY thing I don't like about this car is the Event Data Recorder. Kindof sneaky! Before long, every car will have these and you'll have lawyers subpoena the data for court cases. I suppose it will justify people in the right and maybe regulate the idiots. Hopefully, no offense to anyone. I know there's been plenty of talk about these, just my 2 cents.
Almost every car has had them installed already.
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Most New Cars have Data Recorders, it's just like the Black Box on a Plane
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Well it's nice to know that Ford still thinks we're all a bunch of MORONS who can't read an oil pressure gauge that actually works. It's a minor complaint, but it would sure be nice to not have to resort to the aftermarket to get a real OP gauge
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Originally posted by order#1@August 16, 2004, 4:53 PM
Well it looks like we will know more about how everything works on the cars then most sales people will, when the cars get here!!!!!!!!!
This has been the trend!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks OS121 you are the best!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah, thats always funny. like when they are trying to show you how something is operated. and you have to show it to them??? i love doing that. i always research the death out of a car before i get one. and i end up knowing more about the vehicle and options than they do! the dealership should give me their sales commission b/c i sold myself the car
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Originally posted by conv_stang+August 17, 2004, 12:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (conv_stang @ August 17, 2004, 12:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-order#1@August 16, 2004, 4:53 PM
Well it looks like we will know more about how everything works on the cars then most sales people will, when the cars get here!!!!!!!!!
This has been the trend!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks OS121 you are the best!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah, thats always funny. like when they are trying to show you how something is operated. and you have to show it to them??? i love doing that. i always research the death out of a car before i get one. and i end up knowing more about the vehicle and options than they do! the dealership should give me their sales commission b/c i sold myself the car [/b][/quote]
You are SO right. You would think that they have all day when not with a customer to learn about 6-7 different cars and SUVs (which in essence, are all similar).

I go to dealerships a lot for parts and I never miss a laugh when I see these young (22-30 year olds) sitting around doing absolutely nothing. Wish my job was easy like that, but then again, you lie to people all day long as a car salesperson, so no thank you -- I enjoy having morals.
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A curious question, and it may have already been discussed, I was reading the owners manual, and came across the operations for lowering the convertible top. On step 5, it says: "push the convertible top switch on the overhead console and hold until the windows are down and the top is completely stored". So... where would the "overhead console" be on the convertible? And does that switch also lower the windows as well?
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Originally posted by autothing@August 16, 2004, 6:01 PM
I love the feature where the windows go down a bit when you open the door, and then back up once you close a door (in order to have a tighter seal).

I saw this on a BMW first, so it MUST be good and Ford is using it on the Mustang. Very pimp, indeed. B)
The wifes 02 T-Bird did the same thing, just have to be careful when first opening the door that you don't open it to quick(not sure why). It did cut down a lot of noise though.
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Originally posted by 127bull+August 17, 2004, 3:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (127bull @ August 17, 2004, 3:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-autothing@August 16, 2004, 6:01 PM
I love the feature where the windows go down a bit when you open the door, and then back up once you close a door (in order to have a tighter seal).

I saw this on a BMW first, so it MUST be good and Ford is using it on the Mustang. Very pimp, indeed. B)
The wifes 02 T-Bird did the same thing, just have to be careful when first opening the door that you don't open it to quick(not sure why). It did cut down a lot of noise though. [/b][/quote]
Ok, so when you close the door on current gen Mustangs, the window "slaps" against that soft black rubber sealing around the door.

Now on the door like the T-Bird and BMWs, where the window lowers a bit and then goes back up, does it get recessed INTO the black rubber sealing...? (which I guess would technically make a much better seal)
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Originally posted by autothing+August 18, 2004, 2:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (autothing @ August 18, 2004, 2:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by 127bull@August 17, 2004, 3:53 PM
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@August 16, 2004, 6:01 PM
I love the feature where the windows go down a bit when you open the door, and then back up once you close a door (in order to have a tighter seal).

I saw this on a BMW first, so it MUST be good and Ford is using it on the Mustang. Very pimp, indeed. B)

The wifes 02 T-Bird did the same thing, just have to be careful when first opening the door that you don't open it to quick(not sure why). It did cut down a lot of noise though.
Ok, so when you close the door on current gen Mustangs, the window "slaps" against that soft black rubber sealing around the door.

Now on the door like the T-Bird and BMWs, where the window lowers a bit and then goes back up, does it get recessed INTO the black rubber sealing...? (which I guess would technically make a much better seal) [/b][/quote]
Yes, sure. That's the point of it :P It drops 1/4 of an inch when you open the door, and right after the door is closed, bzzzzt, it goes up again
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Thanks Wombert, NOW I get it

I just hope all that mechanized opening and closing lasts as long as the car does
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Awesome to get the manual and after reading it I have decided not to get the Shaker 1000. Since there is no separate volume control for the subs, and of course the price tag, I will replace the headunit with a Alpine DVD/CD-R/RW player (7" screen BTW) and separate amps and 12" sub. All of this will cost the same price as the shaker 1000 upgrade.
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You can of course adjust the bass level. The Shaker 1000 has a special 'Shaker' mode which seems to be some sort of loudness function or something?
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Originally posted by Wombert@August 18, 2004, 11:58 AM
You can of course adjust the bass level. The Shaker 1000 has a special 'Shaker' mode which seems to be some sort of loudness function or something?
yeah that's what i guess. like a dbb mode. (dynamic bass boost). and like any other car stereo: volume, treble, bass, and balance, can all be adjusted seperatly.

B)
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I'll admit [even though I ordered it] that the Shaker 500 will suffice for my typical volume level.

However, it's those occasional Summer mornings on the way to work when I roll down the windows and power the speakers... I can already imagine the physical feeling of the subwoofer in the trunk thumping. Yes, only with a Shaker 1000
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Originally posted by autothing@August 18, 2004, 3:29 PM
I'll admit [even though I ordered it] that the Shaker 500 will suffice for my typical volume level.

However, it's those occasional Summer mornings on the way to work when I roll down the windows and power the speakers... I can already imagine the physical feeling of the subwoofer in the trunk thumping. Yes, only with a Shaker 1000
So your the guy that keeps waking me up when I want to get a little catch-up sleep on Saturday morning. :bang:
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Originally posted by Dan+August 18, 2004, 2:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dan @ August 18, 2004, 2:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-autothing@August 18, 2004, 3:29 PM
I'll admit [even though I ordered it] that the Shaker 500 will suffice for my typical volume level.

However, it's those occasional Summer mornings on the way to work when I roll down the windows and power the speakers... I can already imagine the physical feeling of the subwoofer in the trunk thumping. Yes, only with a Shaker 1000
So your the guy that keeps waking me up when I want to get a little catch-up sleep on Saturday morning. :bang: [/b][/quote]
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The so called "Shaker Mode" is just a +6db increase. Nothing too fancy. It is also meant to change the frequency going to the other speakers so they don't distort. However, this just doesn't compare to having a separate control just for the sub. Besides, I can get a 12" sub to take up less room than the 2 10's that are included with the 1000 shaker and produce a lot more bass. The thing to keep in mind here is you can add a 12" sub and amp with remote control for less than half the price of the 1000 shaker system.


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