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Old 6/4/04, 01:17 PM
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Well, today was the day. Was notified by our Ford rep that our initial allotment of 05 Mustangs is 3 cars. This is the first allocation of cars which will begin scheduling June 17 for September 7th job 1 production. These cars should be at our dealership in the beginning of October. Needless to say I am a little disappointed. :notnice:
We are one of the largest Mustang dealers in the Philadelphia region so I was hoping for more cars initially. My rep explained that most dealers would only receive 2 cars with larger dealers getting 3. Keep in mind this is just the initial allotment and I was told as the plant ramps up there should be much more allocated for October production.
Your local dealer should be able to tell you how many he is getting very soon. Allocations may vary but my rep said this was nation wide. If you are told some large number I would ask to see the dealer's Commitment Allocation and Scheduling report which is the official report showing how many cars they are getting. The ordering manager should have it readily available.
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I believe it...

Canadian dealerships will probably getting the same ammount...

I was quoted something like 500 for the first 2 months of production of Canadian cars (Oct/Nov)
Which is less than on per dealership for the first couple months.

But with how many they want to sell....give it a couple months and don't worry...

NOT everyone loves this car as much as us.
I'm sure it will sell well...but give it time, you'll see...it'll even out.
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Yup......Was in to the dealer today and he mentioned his allottment (2). I'm one of em
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Originally posted by Boomer@Jun. 4th, 2004, 1:38 PM
NOT everyone loves this car as much as us.
I'm sure it will sell well...but give it time, you'll see...it'll even out.
I agree...Most people haven't been anticipating it the way we have. You have people on this board that have been saving for quite a while to pick one up.

I bet there will be a bunch of future 05 or 06 mustang buyers that won't like the style at first but then it will grows on them. That always seems to happen when a new body style comes out. Some people won't realize they changed it until they see one crusing down the road. By then all of us 05 freaks will already have our orders in. . As long as I get a yellow gt next spring all will be fine B)
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Maybe I should go to the dealer and see if they'll be getting a black gt...
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Originally posted by DrunkenDragon713@Jun. 4th, 2004, 4:25 PM
Maybe I should go to the dealer and see if they'll be getting a black gt...
guaranteed you're not going to find out anything
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As you said, this is the initial allotment.

If Ford builds 180,000 05 Stangs and I think Ford has about 5,000 dealers, that totals 36 - 05 Mustangs per dealer if evey one got the same #.

Ford wants a big splash for the 05 and they want to use it to draw people into Ford dealers to get them to buy other cars. So the purpose of the allotment is to get 2 - 3 Mustangs on EVERY Ford dealer's lot. I bet that early on the dealers will NOT be able to take delivery of additoinal Mustangs until they sell their initial allotment. This way they'll keep 05 Stangs on the lots of most dealers instead of having some dealers with 50 of them and other dealers with none.
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Does anybody that works for any dealerships know if all the dealers in the Great Lakes region now have there allocation numbers yet? Does anybody know that works for any dealerships if you have recieved your pices yet? I know we are a little more than three months away from Job 1 so I don't know what dealers might know. My local dealership told me they would contact me when he got both is allocation numbers and prices. The General Manager is a friend of mine and put to me like this. "Eric I could do an order but there is little point for me to till I know how many I am allcated and what the prices will be. I will get in touch with you then." So right now I am in a sit an wait with everybody else and that's not a problem but I just wanted and idea if anybody knew that the GM might be gettting a hold of me this week or not. I know is sepculation, but somebody might have idea and thanks again

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Everyone should know allocation right now, but prices probably won't hit until Job 1 date.
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Originally posted by Grantsdale@Jun. 5th, 2004, 12:25 PM
Everyone should know allocation right now, but prices probably won't hit until Job 1 date.
It sounds like all that the dealers have been told is what their initial allocation is. It does not apear that they know what their allocation will be for the full production year.
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They never know their full allocation. Ford usually doesn't allocate anything but initially, and then the dealer orders as necessary. Sorry if my post sounded different.
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Originally posted by Grantsdale@Jun. 5th, 2004, 7:19 PM
They never know their full allocation. Ford usually doesn't allocate anything but initially, and then the dealer orders as necessary. Sorry if my post sounded different.
You are correct, that Ford vehicles are usually not on allocation. But I think some of the thinking that is going on here is what happens if the # of orders for the 2005 Mustang start out WAY above production capacity.
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They won't. Think for a minute how many cars 180,000 is.
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Originally posted by Grantsdale@Jun. 6th, 2004, 11:06 AM
They won't. Think for a minute how many cars 180,000 is.
that's 3600 stangs per state!!! I know at least 3601 people in my city (L.A.) will be wanting one, not to mention the rest of California. Not to mention NY, FL, WA, TX, and all the other states in between! 180,000 is not that many!
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Originally posted by sajawebb+Jun. 6th, 2004, 10:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sajawebb @ Jun. 6th, 2004, 10:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Grantsdale@Jun. 6th, 2004, 11:06 AM
They won't. Think for a minute how many cars 180,000 is.
that's 3600 stangs per state!!! I know at least 3601 people in my city (L.A.) will be wanting one, not to mention the rest of California. Not to mention NY, FL, WA, TX, and all the other states in between! 180,000 is not that many! [/b][/quote]
How many ford dealerships are there?


I have a couple of general distribution questions, pertaining specifically to the '05 Mustang.

How many cars per day does the plant generate?

Do they immedietely roll off and then on to a truck or train to go to each dealership?

How many days after Job 1 will they be seen on dealer lots?

Odvoiusly the first few cars off the line will never be seen by general consumers. Engineers, plant owners, CEO's, friends and family will probably get the first few. But when will the retail cars be rolling off the line.
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Originally posted by derynf+Jun. 6th, 2004, 11:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (derynf @ Jun. 6th, 2004, 11:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by sajawebb@Jun. 6th, 2004, 10:12 AM
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They won't. Think for a minute how many cars 180,000 is.

that's 3600 stangs per state!!! I know at least 3601 people in my city (L.A.) will be wanting one, not to mention the rest of California. Not to mention NY, FL, WA, TX, and all the other states in between! 180,000 is not that many!
How many ford dealerships are there?


I have a couple of general distribution questions, pertaining specifically to the '05 Mustang.

How many cars per day does the plant generate?

Do they immedietely roll off and then on to a truck or train to go to each dealership?

How many days after Job 1 will they be seen on dealer lots?

Odvoiusly the first few cars off the line will never be seen by general consumers. Engineers, plant owners, CEO's, friends and family will probably get the first few. But when will the retail cars be rolling off the line. [/b][/quote]
You bring up a good point. My math was off. Instead of 3600/state...it should be 36/dealership (give or take a few). I hear there are 5000 ford dealerships in the U.S. Mayber someone else know the answers to your other questions. But you're right Bill Ford and many others have dibs on the first 100 or so!
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Originally posted by derynf+Jun. 6th, 2004, 1:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (derynf @ Jun. 6th, 2004, 1:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by sajawebb@Jun. 6th, 2004, 10:12 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Grantsdale
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They won't. Think for a minute how many cars 180,000 is.

that's 3600 stangs per state!!! I know at least 3601 people in my city (L.A.) will be wanting one, not to mention the rest of California. Not to mention NY, FL, WA, TX, and all the other states in between! 180,000 is not that many!
How many ford dealerships are there?


I have a couple of general distribution questions, pertaining specifically to the '05 Mustang.

How many cars per day does the plant generate?

Do they immedietely roll off and then on to a truck or train to go to each dealership?

How many days after Job 1 will they be seen on dealer lots?

Odvoiusly the first few cars off the line will never be seen by general consumers. Engineers, plant owners, CEO's, friends and family will probably get the first few. But when will the retail cars be rolling off the line. [/b][/quote]
How many cars per day does the plant generate?
Someone who works at AAI said they can do up to 68 cars an hour.

Do they immedietely roll off and then on to a truck or train to go to each dealership?
No.

How many days after Job 1 will they be seen on dealer lots?
On lot date is Sept 29.

Odvoiusly the first few cars off the line will never be seen by general consumers. Engineers, plant owners, CEO's, friends and family will probably get the first few. But when will the retail cars be rolling off the line.
Sept 7 is job 1.


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180,000 IS A HUGE AMOUNT of cars. Yes it might be 36 a dealership, but some dealerships are small and might sell 3 or 4 a year. Some dealerships sell over 100. This is a mass produced car. It is not a Ferrari. There will be plenty to go around. Maybe at the beginning its a little tight, but after that there will not be a problem. I can't even remember the last time there was a shortage on a mass produced car, other than initial allotments. You don't see Honda selling out, this is pretty much the same thing. Stop overreacting.
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Not only that but a lot of people will be waiting to buy the convertible as well.
It might be tough at this point to buy one of the first cars available at most dealerships but you should be able to get an ordered one shortly after the first month or two.
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Originally posted by Grantsdale@Jun. 6th, 2004, 10:51 AM
You don't see Honda selling out, this is pretty much the same thing. Stop overreacting.
just gathering info, grantsdale.

thanks for all the info.
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last i heard ther were 5200 dealers


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