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Originally posted by Xdriver@Apr. 22nd, 2004, 6:28 AM
it wolda been kewl if they used the 4.0 DOHC inline 6 From the falcon 380Nm@3250rpm .182kw @ 5000rpm.
it wolda been kewl if they used the 4.0 DOHC inline 6 From the falcon 380Nm@3250rpm .182kw @ 5000rpm.
Sadly, the 4L I6 will probably be phased out end of decade and replaced by a Duratec 35 (or larger). They should be keeping this alive if for no other reason than to use in trucks here, like GM does with their 4.2L I6.
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Originally posted by RedFireGT05@Apr. 21st, 2004, 7:49 AM
Thats why they make GT's..
Thats why they make GT's..
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Originally posted by dcpirani+Apr. 22nd, 2004, 9:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (dcpirani @ Apr. 22nd, 2004, 9:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-RedFireGT05@Apr. 21st, 2004, 7:49 AM
Thats why they make GT's..
Thats why they make GT's..
Yeah me too. There's nothing wrong with a v6. Especially a 4.0L. I was thinking of getting an 04 GT. But the new 05 bodystyle has me hooked. And I like the bladed wheels center caps on the v6 models. Plus, there is an option of getting a wing, and the option of pin stripes along the rocker panel area. I think the v6 mustang will be a good investment for a graduating college student like myself. Plus insurance and gas prices will cost less. The aftermarket will be full of parts to make the v6 faster. And if the starting price is under $20k, that's a heck of a deal if you ask me. I'm not really into performance, or street racing, so it just makes logical sense for me to get the v6 IMO. I have the rest of my life to buy my dream car. But in the meantime, I'll be saving $$$ in my 401K for a future purchase. Planning ahead and patience is the key...thanks for the advice Brad. :w00t:
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Originally posted by The Fireman@Apr. 22nd, 2004, 11:43 PM
Speaking of the 3.5...when are they going to start putting them into the V6 models? 2006 maybe?
Speaking of the 3.5...when are they going to start putting them into the V6 models? 2006 maybe?
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I know a lot of people want the 3.5L V-6 pretty badly. But, if refinement is good then the 4.0L is great with me. As a matter of fact for less money I would much rather have the 4.0L V-6. And actually, the only way I would prefer the 3.5L is if it were about the same or barely more money. Again, this is assuming that refinement doesn't take a nose-dive in a transfer from the trucks on the 4.0L. And, IMHO I doubt that it will.
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As someone else eluded to, peak HP and torque is not what it is about. Give me displacement any day. The HP graph down 2 to 5 thousand range will be much better and that range is what makes a car fun to drive, unless you like winding your engine at 6 thousand all day.
The 4.0 they use in the Explorer is a strong engine People use it in off road racing and get some big power out of it. Ford restricts the exhaust in it big time, easy 25 hp gain availble.
The more important thing will be the gearing and shift points.
The 4.0 they use in the Explorer is a strong engine People use it in off road racing and get some big power out of it. Ford restricts the exhaust in it big time, easy 25 hp gain availble.
The more important thing will be the gearing and shift points.
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Originally posted by mkoesel+Apr. 22nd, 2004, 10:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mkoesel @ Apr. 22nd, 2004, 10:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Kotzenjunge@Apr. 21st, 2004, 1:57 PM
I think it's funny that the Mustang V6 will be larger than the Thunderbird's V8.
I think it's funny that the Mustang V6 will be larger than the Thunderbird's V8.
Heck the current V6 stang has more displacement that a Ferrari 360, but makes less than half the power. Makes almost as much torque though. [/b][/quote]
My girlfriend back in the day had a 1.8L V6 in her mazda mx3, it was pretty neat although a butt ugly car. B)
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Originally posted by Xdriver@April 22, 2004, 5:28 AM
it wolda been kewl if they used the 4.0 DOHC inline 6 From the falcon 380Nm@3250rpm .182kw @ 5000rpm .I wish Ford would do the same with the Falcon & Mustang as GM did with the Monaro/GTO .That way u guys in The USA would have Falcons & us (Australia & NZ) would have mustangs! :bang:
it wolda been kewl if they used the 4.0 DOHC inline 6 From the falcon 380Nm@3250rpm .182kw @ 5000rpm .I wish Ford would do the same with the Falcon & Mustang as GM did with the Monaro/GTO .That way u guys in The USA would have Falcons & us (Australia & NZ) would have mustangs! :bang:
The original mustang had an inline-6, after all...
And, from the accounts of the several Aussies I've been talking to on a few other forums, the Falcon is a blast to drive.
What was the main consideration for choosing against this motor? Cost? Dimensions? Weight?
For those of us who don't use Metric, this Inline-6 pumps out 280lb/ft @3250rpm, and 245hp @5000rpm... assuming my conversions are correct.
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Originally posted by snakeeyes@April 21, 2004, 1:20 AM
And its going to be 3.8 liter right? My taures has 200 hp and its a 3.0.
So what gives?? :scratch:
Also my taures is a 02,so how come the 02 3 and 4 mustang v6s dont come with 200hp????? :scratch:
And its going to be 3.8 liter right? My taures has 200 hp and its a 3.0.
So what gives?? :scratch:
Also my taures is a 02,so how come the 02 3 and 4 mustang v6s dont come with 200hp????? :scratch:
210 HP @ 5250 RPM
240 lb. ft @ 3500 RPM
Indications are that the engine is very conservatively rated (as is Ford's practice these days) and that it most likely has over 220 HP.
But as someone else pointedout, HP not all that important. Torque is the important #. And Torque at low RPM is really important.
From the Ford order guide the 2005 Taurus with the Duratec 30 has:
200 HP @ 5650 RPM
207 lb ft @ 4400 RPM
So the 4.0 not only has 33 more lb ft of torque ( 16% more) but it delivers all that torque at 3500 RPM, 900 RPM lower RPM than the Taurus engine.
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Originally posted by NewPony05@September 25, 2004, 8:30 PM
and even funnier the new honda accord has 240 horses so much for the 6ers being able to eat rice...
and even funnier the new honda accord has 240 horses so much for the 6ers being able to eat rice...
Torque : 212 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm
On top of that, don't forget the new Mustang has a 5-speed automatic and it also uses REGULAR unleaded. The Accord uses premium.
#36
yeah, not to mention the difference in prices. V6 accord sells at the price of a mustang gt. I didn't know that about the gas... just one more bullet I can shoot my wife with for thinking about buying one.
#37
Our '99 windstar has a 3.8 litre, and it has *****. Kick it in the guts and you know it. Now I'm not saying that vans are fast, but I was impressed when we took it for a drive. Needless to say it sits in our driveway, and we've never had a better van. Even with the 4 speed tranny, I have no complaints. Why don't they refine that motor and put it in the new v6 coupe??
#38
I love 5-month old topic rehashes.
I think they're trying to move on from the 3.8L engine. I remember my mom's '85 T-bird had the 3.8L V6. I'm sure it wasn't really the same engine as the ones used in 'stangs the past few years, but that number has been around for awhile. Not only that, but the 4.0L SOHC is a more technologically advanced engine than the 3.8L OHV.
I know some guys with newer Rangers with the 4.0L V6, and they've hit the 14's with just a few minor mods. I'm sure the 'stang will be even quicker with a 5-speed, better gearing, and less weight. :yes:
I think they're trying to move on from the 3.8L engine. I remember my mom's '85 T-bird had the 3.8L V6. I'm sure it wasn't really the same engine as the ones used in 'stangs the past few years, but that number has been around for awhile. Not only that, but the 4.0L SOHC is a more technologically advanced engine than the 3.8L OHV.
I know some guys with newer Rangers with the 4.0L V6, and they've hit the 14's with just a few minor mods. I'm sure the 'stang will be even quicker with a 5-speed, better gearing, and less weight. :yes:
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Originally posted by Dr Iven@September 25, 2004, 8:10 PM
I know some guys with newer Rangers with the 4.0L V6, and they've hit the 14's with just a few minor mods. I'm sure the 'stang will be even quicker with a 5-speed, better gearing, and less weight. :yes:
I know some guys with newer Rangers with the 4.0L V6, and they've hit the 14's with just a few minor mods. I'm sure the 'stang will be even quicker with a 5-speed, better gearing, and less weight. :yes: