'05 more popular than '64 1/2?
10/11/04, 11:59 PM
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I think it was on the Travel Channel's show the other night that the original Mustang sold 20K units the first day... April 17, 1964. With the '05 having 25K PRE-orders, does that make it more popular (initially) than the '64 1/2?
I realize we'll be hard pressed to sell 1 million in the first 18 months like the '64 1/2, but those numbers really make you think.
Jason
I realize we'll be hard pressed to sell 1 million in the first 18 months like the '64 1/2, but those numbers really make you think.
Jason
10/12/04, 12:35 AM
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Originally posted by StangNut@October 12, 2004, 12:02 AM
I realize we'll be hard pressed to sell 1 million in the first 18 months like the '64 1/2, but those numbers really make you think.
I realize we'll be hard pressed to sell 1 million in the first 18 months like the '64 1/2, but those numbers really make you think.
But I seriously doubt it will have the same impact it did back in 1964.
10/12/04, 12:55 AM
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There was a lot less people back then, it would probably have to be 75-100k sold the first day to pass it nowadays.
Just like minimum wage went up from a dollar to $8.25 (or 8.75 in some places)...
Just like minimum wage went up from a dollar to $8.25 (or 8.75 in some places)...
10/12/04, 01:02 AM
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I think if any Mustang could sell like the 64' this one can. I think it captures the same emotions! 
I also think that the way Ford designed the v-6 model starting at 19,410.00 with a long list of standard features. Is very comparable to 64's 2,368.00 base price.
This car will be one of the better looking cars on the road, and wait till the vert is out! At this price it will sell like hot cakes!
I also think that the way Ford designed the v-6 model starting at 19,410.00 with a long list of standard features. Is very comparable to 64's 2,368.00 base price.
This car will be one of the better looking cars on the road, and wait till the vert is out! At this price it will sell like hot cakes!
10/12/04, 01:27 AM
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Not even close.
Given the fact that in 1964 the average household only had one car and the Mustang was just a daily driver for most. This car was the vehicle that may have started the second car in the family revolution. Now every household has at least 2 and many have more. 22,000 vehicles sold the very first day they went on sale. The other factor is the foreign car market. In 64 it was pretty much non existent. There was no competition for the pony in it's price range. The Mustang was a throw away car. The bic lighter of automobiles. Little did Ford know that the Mustang would also start the muscle car revolution. If the 05 were coming out under the same circumstances it would be as popular.
Given the fact that in 1964 the average household only had one car and the Mustang was just a daily driver for most. This car was the vehicle that may have started the second car in the family revolution. Now every household has at least 2 and many have more. 22,000 vehicles sold the very first day they went on sale. The other factor is the foreign car market. In 64 it was pretty much non existent. There was no competition for the pony in it's price range. The Mustang was a throw away car. The bic lighter of automobiles. Little did Ford know that the Mustang would also start the muscle car revolution. If the 05 were coming out under the same circumstances it would be as popular.
10/12/04, 06:27 AM
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Didn't Ford sell 500,000 Mustangs the first year? That's pretty amazing. I still think the '05 will be even more poplar once people see it on the road and Ford might sell more than thay can produce for a year or 2. Only one other person I work with has even seen the new design.
10/12/04, 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by ponyboy66@October 12, 2004, 1:30 AM
Not even close.
Given the fact that in 1964 the average household only had one car and the Mustang was just a daily driver for most. This car was the vehicle that may have started the second car in the family revolution. Now every household has at least 2 and many have more. 22,000 vehicles sold the very first day they went on sale. The other factor is the foreign car market. In 64 it was pretty much non existent. There was no competition for the pony in it's price range. The Mustang was a throw away car. The bic lighter of automobiles. Little did Ford know that the Mustang would also start the muscle car revolution. If the 05 were coming out under the same circumstances it would be as popular.
Not even close.
Given the fact that in 1964 the average household only had one car and the Mustang was just a daily driver for most. This car was the vehicle that may have started the second car in the family revolution. Now every household has at least 2 and many have more. 22,000 vehicles sold the very first day they went on sale. The other factor is the foreign car market. In 64 it was pretty much non existent. There was no competition for the pony in it's price range. The Mustang was a throw away car. The bic lighter of automobiles. Little did Ford know that the Mustang would also start the muscle car revolution. If the 05 were coming out under the same circumstances it would be as popular.
I don't see the original Mustang as either of those. When the big block Mustangs came along later, I would say that was an evolution of the muscle car movement. Muscle cars were started by putting big engines in mid size cars, not small cars. The Mustang was considered a small car by 60's standards.
10/12/04, 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by AgentJ@October 12, 2004, 12:58 AM
Just like minimum wage went up from a dollar to $8.25 (or 8.75 in some places)...
Just like minimum wage went up from a dollar to $8.25 (or 8.75 in some places)...
... Where is minimum wage over $8/hr??? Its $5.65 here...And yea, look at the difference in the population and # of vehicles on the road now compared to then. The 05 is definitely very popular, but it's not close to the popularity the 64 1/2 had.
10/12/04, 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by AgentJ@October 12, 2004, 12:58 AM
There was a lot less people back then, it would probably have to be 75-100k sold the first day to pass it nowadays.
There was a lot less people back then, it would probably have to be 75-100k sold the first day to pass it nowadays.
Actually, imports played minor role then, they play major role now.
10/12/04, 12:05 PM
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The 1960 Ford Falcon was a run-a-way sales sucess too for Ford. And it was just as plain as today's Accord and Camery.
This new 2005 Mustang is all about emotion, just like the 64.5 Mustang was. This car will have a very wide appeal to all types of drivers.
Its a $19,410.00 "WOW" car when you see it coming down the road!
Accords and Camery's do not turn heads. The 2005 Mustang will! It will be just like seeing a Porsche or Ferrari drive by, with all the excitement it will create. The 05' has clean classic lines just like the the 65' Mustang had.
I think yes the world is not the same as in 1964. And there are more models of cars availible today than ever before. But none come close to what you get in the 2005 Mustang for its class.
This car will also steal a lot of sales away from a lot of different car buyers. My brother is married with 3 kids. And his wife has an SUV and said my brother needs a new car, something like a 4 door accord.
He was going to buy one before I showed him a pic of the new 05' Mustang. He is 48 yrs old. Now he is going to buy a v-6 coupe for their second car. He said most people today go out to buy a car because they need one. But people will go out and buy this car becauce they will want one!
This car will sell because of emotions and its price. How many cars today can do that?
This new 2005 Mustang is all about emotion, just like the 64.5 Mustang was. This car will have a very wide appeal to all types of drivers.
Its a $19,410.00 "WOW" car when you see it coming down the road!
Accords and Camery's do not turn heads. The 2005 Mustang will! It will be just like seeing a Porsche or Ferrari drive by, with all the excitement it will create. The 05' has clean classic lines just like the the 65' Mustang had.
I think yes the world is not the same as in 1964. And there are more models of cars availible today than ever before. But none come close to what you get in the 2005 Mustang for its class.
This car will also steal a lot of sales away from a lot of different car buyers. My brother is married with 3 kids. And his wife has an SUV and said my brother needs a new car, something like a 4 door accord.
He was going to buy one before I showed him a pic of the new 05' Mustang. He is 48 yrs old. Now he is going to buy a v-6 coupe for their second car. He said most people today go out to buy a car because they need one. But people will go out and buy this car becauce they will want one!
This car will sell because of emotions and its price. How many cars today can do that?
10/12/04, 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by AgentJ@October 12, 2004, 12:58 AM
There was a lot less people back then, it would probably have to be 75-100k sold the first day to pass it nowadays.
Just like minimum wage went up from a dollar to $8.25 (or 8.75 in some places)...
There was a lot less people back then, it would probably have to be 75-100k sold the first day to pass it nowadays.
Just like minimum wage went up from a dollar to $8.25 (or 8.75 in some places)...
most people today go out to buy a car because they need one. But
10/12/04, 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by stango63@October 12, 2004, 12:08 PM
Accords and Camery's do not turn heads. The 2005 Mustang will! It will be just like seeing a Porsche or Ferrari drive by, with all the excitement it will create. The 05' has clean classic lines just like the the 65' Mustang had.
Accords and Camery's do not turn heads. The 2005 Mustang will! It will be just like seeing a Porsche or Ferrari drive by, with all the excitement it will create. The 05' has clean classic lines just like the the 65' Mustang had.
10/12/04, 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by Flyinlow+October 12, 2004, 7:09 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Flyinlow @ October 12, 2004, 7:09 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ponyboy66@October 12, 2004, 1:30 AM
Not even close.
Given the fact that in 1964 the average household only had one car and the Mustang was just a daily driver for most. This car was the vehicle that may have started the second car in the family revolution. Now every household has at least 2 and many have more. 22,000 vehicles sold the very first day they went on sale. The other factor is the foreign car market. In 64 it was pretty much non existent. There was no competition for the pony in it's price range. The Mustang was a throw away car. The bic lighter of automobiles. Little did Ford know that the Mustang would also start the muscle car revolution. If the 05 were coming out under the same circumstances it would be as popular.
Not even close.
Given the fact that in 1964 the average household only had one car and the Mustang was just a daily driver for most. This car was the vehicle that may have started the second car in the family revolution. Now every household has at least 2 and many have more. 22,000 vehicles sold the very first day they went on sale. The other factor is the foreign car market. In 64 it was pretty much non existent. There was no competition for the pony in it's price range. The Mustang was a throw away car. The bic lighter of automobiles. Little did Ford know that the Mustang would also start the muscle car revolution. If the 05 were coming out under the same circumstances it would be as popular.
I don't see the original Mustang as either of those. When the big block Mustangs came along later, I would say that was an evolution of the muscle car movement. Muscle cars were started by putting big engines in mid size cars, not small cars. The Mustang was considered a small car by 60's standards. [/b][/quote]
Just like any other revolution.
The industrial one for example:
The term INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION originally referred to the developments that transformed Great Britain, between 1750 and 1830, from a largely rural population making a living almost entirely from agriculture to a town-centered society engaged increasingly in factory manufacture.
American Revolution
1763 to 1775
French revolution
1789-1799
Muscle car revolution, not hot rod.
1960's - ?
Your definition is technically correct.
However, speaking in relative terms there are many types of revolutions along many different time lines.
And the fact is, the mustang was part of the muscle car revolution.
10/12/04, 04:18 PM
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8.25/hr, only here in California!
Goodluck buying a house though... they run from 500,000 to over a Million dollars.
Even the crappy ones are like 200,000.
(Offtopic, but responding to a question!)
Goodluck buying a house though... they run from 500,000 to over a Million dollars.
Even the crappy ones are like 200,000.
(Offtopic, but responding to a question!)
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Well, thats a perfectly good example of the vicious circle of economics. You increase the minimum wage to meet the needs of the cost of living and the cost of living increases to meet the added expense of the minimum wage increase.
10/12/04, 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by TGIFord@October 12, 2004, 3:28 PM
Well, thats a perfectly good example of the vicious circle of economics. You increase the minimum wage to meet the needs of the cost of living and the cost of living increases to meet the added expense of the minimum wage increase.
Well, thats a perfectly good example of the vicious circle of economics. You increase the minimum wage to meet the needs of the cost of living and the cost of living increases to meet the added expense of the minimum wage increase.
Couldn't of said it better.
