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05 GT almost a second faster than 04 GT?

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Old 8/19/04 | 11:02 AM
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Guy on stangnet said he talked to a designer and was told "the 05's are going to be close to a second faster than the current GT's hopefully".

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=493996
Old 8/19/04 | 11:09 AM
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Great news, but I'll take it with a grain of salt. I also liked the statement that the Cobra will have well over 400 hp.

And born4spd should just buy himself a Prius in a few years.
Old 8/19/04 | 11:10 AM
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that 14 year old kid is dumb
Old 8/19/04 | 11:29 AM
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I haven't looked but what is the hp of the 2004 mustang? I would have expected the 2005 to be faster than the 2004.
Old 8/19/04 | 11:31 AM
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I just read that stangnet link. What an idiot. I do agree with one guy on that page when he says "Suggestion for forum rule: You are not allowed to post unless you are old enough to drive."
Old 8/19/04 | 11:39 AM
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1 second faster would be about Mach1 fast compared to a stock 2004 Mustang GT or pretty close to it.
Old 8/19/04 | 12:04 PM
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The 14-year old (Born4speed) is the kid who said "oh yea well i talked someone who works at ford he said it is crap , it isn't as aerodynamic as the 99+ one", not the guy (streetstang03) who said he talked to a designer.
Old 8/19/04 | 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by joeuser42@August 19, 2004, 12:07 PM
The 14-year old (Born4speed) is the kid who said "oh yea well i talked someone who works at ford he said it is crap , it isn't as aerodynamic as the 99+ one", not the guy (streetstang03) who said he talked to a designer.
That's who they're talking about not the guy that started the thread.
Old 8/19/04 | 12:34 PM
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LMAO @ Born4spd .. what a freaking troll.
Old 8/19/04 | 12:44 PM
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why is a 14 yr old talking to ford designers
Old 8/19/04 | 12:54 PM
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"close" to a second faster is "close" to 12's which would be low 13's...hmmmm a little skeptic, but that would rule all :drive: :headbang:
Old 8/19/04 | 01:29 PM
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Yeah, I'm a little skeptical, as well... that's a HUGE difference! Even .5 is a big jump.
Old 8/19/04 | 01:50 PM
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This same topic was discussed on one of TMS threads. A guy talked with some Ford guys and they stated the same. See the second page (about 1/3 down)
Old 8/19/04 | 02:51 PM
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I'm no drag racing expert but I think the rule of thumb is that for every increase of 100HP or decrease of 100LBS of weight equals 1 sec improvement in the 1/4 mile. That being the case and we're seeing an official bump of 40HP over the 2004 GT and the weight virtually the same, I'd expect to see around a .4 sec improvement, maybe a .5 at best. If it's truly close to a full second improvement, then the 300HP is grossly underrated.
Old 8/19/04 | 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by Dr Iven@August 19, 2004, 12:12 PM
Great news, but I'll take it with a grain of salt. I also liked the statement that the Cobra will have well over 400 hp.

And born4spd should just buy himself a Prius in a few years.
That would be similar to GM anouncing the next generation Z06 will have over 400HP.

Tell us somethin' we don't know... B)
Old 8/19/04 | 04:22 PM
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Actually the chief designer, Larry Erickson, told me the same thing. See the 05 stang in San Antonio thread.

He stated to me and a few others at least 3 times that the new GT would be a second faster than the previous edition.

Actually I believe that guy was standing next to me at one point. I heard Mr. Erickson mention that the Cobra would be will over 400 as well. He stated that after the last Cobra they had to keep it up there and they were wanting to improve it drastically. Again, he mentioned them going after the ZO6 with the Cobra.
Old 8/19/04 | 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by MilStang@August 19, 2004, 4:25 PM
Again, he mentioned them going after the ZO6 with the Cobra.
They better work on the car's weight this time if they plan on that!
Old 8/19/04 | 05:50 PM
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Carbon Fiber instead of the old Shelby fiberglass will take off some weight.
Old 8/19/04 | 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by MissMy67GT350@August 19, 2004, 5:53 PM
Carbon Fiber instead of the old Shelby fiberglass will take off some weight.
The 04 Lemans editon Z06 had a Carbon Fiber Hood which GM claimed added 4K to the price of the vehicle while saving only ten pounds. Carbon Fiber is still too expensive to use on the entire car. It would also limit production.

I have no doubt that Ford can stuff a 500 HP engine in the car but they have to get the car around 3100lbs and the price has to stay lower than the Z06 or it won't be much competition.
Old 8/19/04 | 06:47 PM
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i think everythinng that kid said is all crap. i hope it is that fast but only time will tell.


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