05 Chassis question
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Originally posted by NewPony05@September 22, 2004, 1:56 PM
patience young grasshopper, one hour on the forums is but a twinkling in the greater universe, people don't live on here ya know
patience young grasshopper, one hour on the forums is but a twinkling in the greater universe, people don't live on here ya know
I will develop paitence.
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The new stang chassis is much stiffer than the previous model...by around 50% I believe. Having said that, I'm almost positive it is still a unibody design and not a "full frame". I'm sure the new chassis is rigid enough to handle considerable abuse and allow the car to handle better, but I'm sure it could benefit from the subframe connectors. The aftermarket should have some out soon.
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Originally posted by oldskl427@September 22, 2004, 2:49 PM
The new stang chassis is much stiffer than the previous model...by around 50% I believe. Having said that, I'm almost positive it is still a unibody design and not a "full frame". I'm sure the new chassis is rigid enough to handle considerable abuse and allow the car to handle better, but I'm sure it could benefit from the subframe connectors. The aftermarket should have some out soon.
The new stang chassis is much stiffer than the previous model...by around 50% I believe. Having said that, I'm almost positive it is still a unibody design and not a "full frame". I'm sure the new chassis is rigid enough to handle considerable abuse and allow the car to handle better, but I'm sure it could benefit from the subframe connectors. The aftermarket should have some out soon.
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Originally posted by Paris MkVI@September 22, 2004, 2:58 PM
Do you think Ford will add subframe connects on the factory line for the verts?
Do you think Ford will add subframe connects on the factory line for the verts?
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Originally posted by NewPony05@September 22, 2004, 9:56 PM
patience young grasshopper, one hour on the forums is but a twinkling in the greater universe, people don't live on here ya know
patience young grasshopper, one hour on the forums is but a twinkling in the greater universe, people don't live on here ya know
not sure about the rest of you guys... but this is MY LIFE....
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The '05 Stang is a unibody, but it has what you could call "frame rails" stamped in the floor pan which run the entire lenght of the floor pan.
I belive that what Ford said is that the Vert will be 50% stiffer than the 99-04 vert but the coupe is around 25% stiffer than the 99-04 coupe. I know that the first articles said 50%, but they didn't give any other specifics. In one of the later interviews with THT the vert vs. coupe improvements in unibody stiffness are clarified.
I belive that what Ford said is that the Vert will be 50% stiffer than the 99-04 vert but the coupe is around 25% stiffer than the 99-04 coupe. I know that the first articles said 50%, but they didn't give any other specifics. In one of the later interviews with THT the vert vs. coupe improvements in unibody stiffness are clarified.
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V10 is correct. According to information presented by the Mustang engineers at the MCA 40th, the chassis has 2 rails that essentially perform the function of subframe connectors. We were told something to the effect of "You don't have to add subframe connectors because we put them in for you."
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Originally posted by Dan@September 22, 2004, 8:44 PM
Hau Thai-Tang, the chief engineer for the project, is a chassis engineer.....that definately bodes well for that aspect of the car.
Hau Thai-Tang, the chief engineer for the project, is a chassis engineer.....that definately bodes well for that aspect of the car.
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Originally posted by nthe10s@September 22, 2004, 11:09 PM
I talked to Steeda and they did a measurement on the chassis strength. The said the 05 chassis is as strong as a fox body with a 6 point cage. That will be sweet.
I talked to Steeda and they did a measurement on the chassis strength. The said the 05 chassis is as strong as a fox body with a 6 point cage. That will be sweet.
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I doubt the fresh sheet, fully modern S197 will need all the crutches, bandaids and supports to truss up the ancient Fox underpinnings of the current car. Should be much stiffer in all modes (bending, torsion, etc.) than the current Stang right out of the box.
While further bracing may give some incremental advantage, I think the difference may be much smaller than seen on the current chassis and one may have to balance the price and added weight vs potential small realized benefits.
While further bracing may give some incremental advantage, I think the difference may be much smaller than seen on the current chassis and one may have to balance the price and added weight vs potential small realized benefits.
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The car should be really solid. If you road race, you might want to add front and rear strut tower brace. This usually tightens up the car slightly and is bolt on for easy installation.
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