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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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Ive been looking at superchargers for my car, or just getting a GT. What all will I need to do if I supercharge my car? Will I have to have all my internals forged, or will I be ok leaving my motor stock? Thanks for any comments.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 06:29 AM
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You would be fine just leaving the motor stock as long as you didnt run high boost and had regular oil maintanence.
However the question is how much more power do you want? I will eventually buy a charger and when I do I am going for the whole show, cams, pistons, injectors the lot! Why go half way?
The only thing I would recomend is that you change your exhaust for one with a little more bite (+ the increased flow will help). Check out this post for V6 duals. http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?t=51307 .
Depending on how much you want to spend it could be worth buying a GT. There are going to be more options and higher HP gains from the GT than the V6. Think to the future, how fast do you want to go?
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 07:18 AM
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If you want to run a supercharged V6, you can and there are lots of people who've done so. There some weaker drivetrain components that you have to upgrade though.
If you just want to make power and arent determined to do so with a V6, the upgrade to a GT is probably worth it. You will spend at least $5-6k for the supercharger and upgrades, and that's if you can install them yourself. It will cost you a lot to have someone else do it.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mudshuvel319
If you want to run a supercharged V6, you can and there are lots of people who've done so. There some weaker drivetrain components that you have to upgrade though.
If you just want to make power and arent determined to do so with a V6, the upgrade to a GT is probably worth it. You will spend at least $5-6k for the supercharger and upgrades, and that's if you can install them yourself. It will cost you a lot to have someone else do it.
Do you know what those weaker components are?
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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Generally speaking, the internals of the 3.8 engine are not very strong. If you plan on making any serious power, things like the rods, pistons, heads, etc may need to be replaced with stronger parts. I dont know what trans was used in the automatic V6s, but its likely that the trans will have some weak components.
I think it has an open rear too, and Im not sure how strong it is. Unfortunately I dont have a whole lot of experience with the V6 powertrain, but I know that there are some mods to be made if you want to gain a lot of power. If you ran with low boost you caould probably safely gain 60-70 hp, but I dont know after that.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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It sounds like I should just save for the GT.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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It sounds like a V6 is not worth buyin unless one has the cash to really rebuild the engine to handle a supercharger, Unless of course one just wants a cheap car. And now I'll have to look for a GT instead. I'm so depressed.

The following was what I was going to equip a 1999-2004 used Mustang Coupe V6: Vortech supercharger(7psi), dual v6 cat-back exhaust w/Xpipe, Subframe connectors, Strut tower brace, 3.55 gears, JBA Headers.

Now I don't know.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JokerCPoC
It sounds like a V6 is not worth buyin unless one has the cash to really rebuild the engine to handle a supercharger, Unless of course one just wants a cheap car. And now I'll have to look for a GT instead. I'm so depressed.

The following was what I was going to equip a 1999-2004 used Mustang Coupe V6: Vortech supercharger(7psi), dual v6 cat-back exhaust w/Xpipe, Subframe connectors, Strut tower brace, 3.55 gears, JBA Headers.

Now I don't know.
Once you have done all that you are only really going to be close to the stock GT and for what it would cost to do all that to the V6 you could have bought a GT and a few mods as well. The transmission was a weak part in the V6 mustang hence the beafier set up in the GT.
I test drove both the V6 and the GT and the difference was huge. I have spent less than $2000 on mods for my car and again the difference over stock is highly noticable.
With an exhaust, CAI and a torque tune my stang has really woken up and sounds the part as well. Also I installed all the mods myself (except the tires) and I am an idiot so if I can manage it then so can everybody else.

If you want a fast car that you can mod out then seriously look at the GT. It can handle almost anything you want to throw on it, more performance parts available and you can shine that badge on the rear of the car 'GT'. Take both for a test drive and grab deep into their bowels and open them up, you will understand what I am talking about then.
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tricky02GT
Once you have done all that you are only really going to be close to the stock GT and for what it would cost to do all that to the V6 you could have bought a GT and a few mods as well. The transmission was a weak part in the V6 mustang hence the beafier set up in the GT.
I test drove both the V6 and the GT and the difference was huge. I have spent less than $2000 on mods for my car and again the difference over stock is highly noticable.
With an exhaust, CAI and a torque tune my stang has really woken up and sounds the part as well. Also I installed all the mods myself (except the tires) and I am an idiot so if I can manage it then so can everybody else.

If you want a fast car that you can mod out then seriously look at the GT. It can handle almost anything you want to throw on it, more performance parts available and you can shine that badge on the rear of the car 'GT'. Take both for a test drive and grab deep into their bowels and open them up, you will understand what I am talking about then.
I'll have to think about It and see, As My options are limited, As a mobilehome and maybe land will be 1st on My list, Setup may cost Me a lot for one to be placed on a piece of land and one here where I'm now at is not too much bigger than what I'm renting now, It would only save Me $185 a month for one in the park, If I buy the land(outside the park) I'll then be spending almost($45k?) all of what I'll be getting just putting a mobilehome in as setup($9.5k?) and water($11k?) may not be as cheap as I'd like(doesn't include fees, sewer costs, etc) and I'll have somewhat less than $8,900.00 for a car and so a used V6 may be all that I can afford as I don't have the income per month for car payments.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver99v6
It sounds like I should just save for the GT.
I didnt want to discourage you or Joker from building a nice V6 car. It can be done, but there are changes that need to be made, although I'm not really sure of what exactly needs to be strengthened because I dont have much experience with them. Try to talk to other guys who have built fast V6s and see what needs to be done before giving up on your plans. Realistically though, its a lot easier and cheaper to go fast with a V8, so there's a lot to consider.
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mudshuvel319
I didnt want to discourage you or Joker from building a nice V6 car. It can be done, but there are changes that need to be made, although I'm not really sure of what exactly needs to be strengthened because I dont have much experience with them. Try to talk to other guys who have built fast V6s and see what needs to be done before giving up on your plans. Realistically though, its a lot easier and cheaper to go fast with a V8, so there's a lot to consider.
I appreciate Your concern, But then again maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, But I wouldn't know where to look for stronger V6 internal engine parts(rods, crankshaft, bottom end parts, etc), So far and for a long time I've seen those type parts for V8 engines, But Mustang V6 parts, nothing. In any case getting a V8 or a V6 car hinges on what I do about a mobilehome first, It's either spend near $45k on land and a mobilehome or less than $13k on a used mobilehome here where I live currently as the place I've talked to about a used 1976(or newer) doublewide mobilehome hasn't been to good at communication on setup costs and getting an estimate on costs for a water main extension of 300' from the local water company is like pulling teeth and so I'm uncertain as what will happen as My funding for these items is less than I was led to believe at one time(4 months back) and so any car I get may have no mods at all. Oh and I don't even have enough income for a car loan as one place asked If there was someone who could cosign for Me.
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 06:51 AM
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$8900 could buy you a descent used GT, probably 94-98. If you do go with these years, I suggest going with a 94-95, then do a lot of research on them. Those 2 years were the last of the 302 5.0 stock engine. Even though they don't produce as much power (the GT has less HP than the 05-07 v6 i believe), they have a whole lot more mod room.

You might be able to find a 96-98 GT for that price, but personally, I'd go with 94-95. I bought my 00 GT alittle over a year ago for $12,000 (which is a steal for what I got) and I'm soooo glad I paid the extra bit. I was looking for something alittle cheaper than you are, but saw this one and decided to get financing. When I bought her, the car had under 25,000 original miles, and for a 5 year old car, that is just freakin' sweet!

But back to topic, it would be more cost effective to get a GT with a CAI and Exhaust, than getting a v6 and beefing it up to the GT's power. Sorry for the bad news, but at least we're not ing you
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Old Aug 30, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DrunkenDragon713
$8900 could buy you a descent used GT, probably 94-98. If you do go with these years, I suggest going with a 94-95, then do a lot of research on them. Those 2 years were the last of the 302 5.0 stock engine. Even though they don't produce as much power (the GT has less HP than the 05-07 v6 i believe), they have a whole lot more mod room.

You might be able to find a 96-98 GT for that price, but personally, I'd go with 94-95. I bought my 00 GT alittle over a year ago for $12,000 (which is a steal for what I got) and I'm soooo glad I paid the extra bit. I was looking for something alittle cheaper than you are, but saw this one and decided to get financing. When I bought her, the car had under 25,000 original miles, and for a 5 year old car, that is just freakin' sweet!

But back to topic, it would be more cost effective to get a GT with a CAI and Exhaust, than getting a v6 and beefing it up to the GT's power. Sorry for the bad news, but at least we're not ing you
The amount of Money I'm to receive changed downward some, So I'm buying a mobilehome here in the park for $16,500 and So I can afford a 2006 GT, I took a test drive in a Silver one and It climbed a local steep hilly street easily, A day or two later and they sold It, It wasn't one I wanted anyway, But It was close, I have My eyes on either a Legend Lime "Green" one or one in Silver or Redfire or Tungsten Grey, The Legend Lime "Green" one and the Silver one are almost equiped the same way and almost cost the same, The Redfire one and the Tungsten Grey one will cost slightly more, Like $45 and So with the $1,500 from Ford for buyin a 2006 and the $200 from the Salesman for the Escort LX(He has a Mustang and needs a spare car while the Mustang is worked on, New mods I gather), The 2006 GT should Cost Me about $32,200.00 or so.

I just had to adapt to a change in My Situation, So It's not a big deal, And the Park is a well protected place and the neighbors here are very good, I still have to have a few mods done to the house, Like the opening for the Microwave shelf needs to be widened by 1.5"(3/4" on each side), The Leftside bathroom countertop support needs Fixin, The Cabinets above washer/dryer area need to be Removed(A normal Washer/Dryer won't fit as the space is only 24" deep near the back door to the house and the space there for the two is only 58.5" wide) & and add a shelf at a 77" height to replace the cabinet(If It will fit or be practical), Move the clothes washer faucets to near dryer side and increase faucets height to 72"(Near floor now) & add 2nd cold water faucet for a portable swamp cooler(The main cooler can't cool off the rest of the house as good as I'd like due to where It's mounted at, So the Portable will help as It's good up to 700sqft and the "house" is 800sqft and It can get real Hot here, Like 115F(It gives a whole new meaning to Hot Car real quick unless the car is in the shade all the time). And Yeah they will do the mods I've mentioned here as that will be needed as the place was built before 1976(It's a good guess based on what I know). I'm going to spend on New appliances, sinks, 4' Tub and what not in the Kitchen and Bathroom about $3,788(Labor included[$442], Hopefully It'll be enough money for the labor), I'm going to leave the office type carpet in place as It's new just like the paint is. (GE SpacemakerĀ® 18" Built-In Dishwasher, InSinkErator Badger 1 1/3 HP Disposer, GE Unitized SpacemakerĀ® Washer and Gas Dryer are the appliances and the 2-Sinks/1-Tub/2-Faucets will all be by Kohler, I'm lucky the sinks are of a standard size), I was going to change the countertops to Black Granite, But costs are big enough now, So the countertops will remain as they are(they are a pho rock color of grey and white and with some cleaning should be just fine, although the leftside support of the bathroom countertop does need fixing as It's a bit loose). I still have to price out 4 window awnings 2-8' and 2-2.5' and silver window film for all the windows(It keeps the heat out better) should do. A Carport may not be possible, Even though I'd like one, I may have enough money for that too(Space problem maybe too). It's tough having to juggle about $71,000 or so, It all depends on the accounting that has to be done still before they send Me My check near the 4th or 5th, I may get the money on or near the 8th and then finally get this whole ball of wax rolling.
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