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Old 2/21/05, 03:26 PM
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what should i use when i wash the engine compartment..?

im gonna paint the rust free engine compartment with rattle cans soon..
any tips would be good :worship:
Old 2/21/05, 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by FoMoCo Jeppe@February 21, 2005, 4:29 PM
what should i use when i wash the engine compartment..?

im gonna paint the rust free engine compartment with rattle cans soon..
any tips would be good :worship:
I would power wash the engine bay.......once it is completly dry use shop towels and wax and grease remover that you can pickup at any bodyshop....
Old 2/23/05, 01:33 PM
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While this applies mainly on how to detail your bay without pulling the engine, still has some very good tips. I have been saving this for a long time and came across it recently. FWIW.

Here is an excellent article on engine bay detailing:

Classic Mustang Engine Compartment Detailing
By John Dettori

Detailing an engine compartment can be a weekend project. Depending on how close to concours correct you want to achieve, you could spend anywhere from $100 - 500 improving your engine compartment. $300 will do a nice job. There were numerous articles in Mustang Monthly, Mustangs & Fords, etc., in addition to the MM publication "Mustang Monthly's How To Vol. One". Assuming you're not going to remove the engine, nor spray paint from a gun, for a good quality job that you can do yourself over a weekend, you'll need:
1. Paint

• 2-3 cans engine paint, i.e. Krylon Ford Corporate Dark Blue, Eastwood Ford Dark Blue ($15)
• 3-5 cans semi-flat black paint, i.e. Krylon Semi-Flat Black, EW Under Hood Black ($25)
• 2-3 cans rough cast steel paint, i.e. Halon Cast Blast, EW Spray Gray ($15)
• 1-2 cans stamped/machined steel paint, i.e. Eastwood Detail Gray ($10)
• 1 can Exhaust Manifold Paint, i.e. EW Stainless Steel Gray Hi-Temp Coating ($15)
While some swear by Krylon, I personally prefer the Eastwood paints like Under Hood Black. They are a little more expensive, due to the high quality achieved via high paint solids content, coverage is superior, and you'll need less paint. There are several excellent products available, so you may want to ask at car shows, or buy a few and test them out for yourself.
Optional: specialty paints that approximate the following finishes:

• Silver Cad plating
• Carburetor Bronze
• Gold Cad plating
• Power Steering Pump Paint (Turquoise Blue)

2. Parts

• Tune-up parts if needed
o Distributor Cap, points, rotor, ignition wires, spark plugs
• Belts (Fan, P/S, A/C)
• Hoses (Upper/Lower Radiator, heater, vacuum)
• Fan Shroud - if appropriate
• Gaskets, sealer
Optional: correct parts for your car - all available repro


• AutoLite Distributor Cap
• AutoLite Ignition Wires
• "Yellow-top" Ignition Coil
• AutoLite Battery
• Correct Belts
• Correct Battery Cables
• Correct Alternator
• Correct Solenoid
• Correct Upper/Lower Radiator Hoses
• Correct Radiator Cap



3. Supplies

• Notebook & Camera
• 30 gallon Trash Bag
• Ziplock Bags
• Indelible marker
• Wire hangers/twisties
• Scotchbrite Pads
• Assorted Sandpaper
• Newspapers
• Masking Tape
• Small paint brushes
• Testor's Model paints
• Wire brush
• Fantastic/409
• Simple Green
• Tar & Bug Remover
• Engine Degreaser
• Kerosene
• Brake / Carb Cleaner
• Cardboard boxes
• Old towels / blanket
• Fender protector


4. Misc.

• Engine Decal Kit for your engine ($20)
• Wire separators ($3)
• Grommets ($5)
• Fasteners, bolts, wire ties, etc.


Disassembly
Run the engine to get it warm, then degrease your engine using a brush to remove as much dirt and grime as you can. A Power washer, steam cleaner or high pressure do-it-yourself car wash works well. Photograph the way everything is connected while it's still running; get a notebook, make a diagram, take notes, etc.
Remove all the accessories, hoses, belts and wires. Keep the distributor wires attached to the cap. If you're really going nuts, drain and remove the radiator and unbolt the exhaust manifolds from the block and the rest of the exhaust system. Bag and tag everything that comes off, using the Ziplock bags for small items, with clear labels, i.e. 67 Mustang 289-2V Exhaust manifold bolts 16 7/16. Large items get a masking tape tag.
Remove the battery tray, solenoid, voltage regulator, alternator, brackets, and little things like the windshield washer reservoir & pump. The engine compartment brace(s) should come off too. If removing the radiator, be sure to drain the coolant into an oil pan or other container and dispose of properly. Don't let it spill on the ground; it will kill your pets. And don't reuse it. If you're thinking about having the radiator tested, cleaned, or recored, now is the time.
Remove or cover the distributor. Wire brush (brass works best for me) the iron areas of the block that have rust or scale. Try Scotchbrite if necessary on softer finishes. Use compressed air to blow the dust created off. If necessary use some kerosene on a brush or rag to remove grease or grime remaining.
Getting It Done
Paint the motor first. Pick a warm dry day. Remove the air cleaner, stove pipes, carb, and valve covers, and set them aside for separate refinishing. Prep the block surface by removing any rust, loose paint, scale, etc. with a wire brush. Stuff paper towels in the intake manifold holes. Get the wires & hoses not removed out of the way. While engine compartment detailing is easier with the hood off, it's doable with the hood on. Once the surface is clean enough to paint, cover the engine compartment walls with cardboard, towels, etc. and make sure the fenders are covered. Spend time taping and covering the areas you don't want to paint. Paint the motor with even strokes from 6-10". If you removed the valve covers, use a strip of cardboard to cover the valve train. Give it a second coat when dry. A good prep job plus a high quality paint will yield a wet look when dry.
Paint the air cleaner and valve covers while the block is drying. Sandblast or strip these parts after degreasing. The better the prep, the better the results. You may choose to bang-out or body work any dents in these parts (the reason for removing them). Paint on cardboard, constructing paint stands from the cardboard boxes and wire hangers. Paint the interior of the air cleaner, including the lid bottom. Do not paint the inside of the valve covers. Two coats of paint on each part.
When dry, remove the cardboard & rags. Cover the motor with a trash can bag; two if possible. Use Scotchbrite to scuff the walls of engine compartment. If the walls have heavy rust or scale, you may wish to use a rust inhibiting primer like Eastwood's Corroless or POR-15. Then paint the satin finish black on the walls, using light coats. You're done when it looks good to you. Don't forget the shock tower caps, radiator support, engine brace, battery tray, and exposed frame crossmembers. Most pulleys, engine brackets, and the fan also get the satin black paint. Sandblasting is best, but at least degrease and scuff it. The radiator is actually a more glossy black, like Eastwood's Chassis Black, but some use the engine compartment color. TIP: when the engine is complete, install the new spark plugs. There's much more room before the exhaust manifolds are in.
If you removed the battery tray, there maybe a rust or even a hole underneath it; this is common. You can repair the hole with a product like POR-15's Patch Putty. A severe rust problem in this area or in other engine compartment walls * called "inner fender aprons" * may necessitate cutting out the rusted metal and welding in replacement sheet metal. But that will be covered in a separate article.
Power steering pumps were either black or a turquoise blue. Degrease, loosen but do not remove the hoses. I sat mine on a lower frame member. Use the Scotchbrite to scuff up. Cover the surrounding area with newspaper and masking tape. You're going to paint this in the engine compartment, but it's not at hard as it looks. You only need to paint what you can see. If using the blue, get the paint. Use a base coat of silver. When dry, spray the blue over the silver. When dry, cover the pump with newspaper and paint the pulley satin black.
Save the cardboard you used for the walls. If you removed the exhaust manifolds, sandblast or wire brush the rust and scale off. Using a foam brush and the High-Temp exhaust manifold paint, them, and let dry. If you're not going to have them installed on the motor within 72 hours, cure them in an over for 15 minutes at 400-degrees. That is, if you have an extra electric oven. Don't use the oven in your home! The makers of POR-15 make a high temperature coating like the EW product that appears to allow a week or two between application and curing.
Put the cardboard in place over the walls to protect your newly painted finish, remove the garbage bag and install. Then hook up the rest of the exhaust system.
The hood latch & catch, hinges & springs, coil bracket, master cylinder body, and steering gear body get the natural metal paint (EW Spray Gray). The alternator body gets the lighter gray (EW Detail Gray). The Distributor housing, shaft, vacuum advance, and fan spacer get the aluminum shinny paint. From your notes, you'll see what parts were gold cad, silver cad (a bluish tint on a silver part), etc. Refinish as you see fit. Don't forget the battery hold down bolts, which were the lighter gray. Then, you get to put it all back together!
Reassembly
Install the distributor if you removed it. Note - this will require tune-up/timing when finished. Use the Testor's Model paint and a small brush to make a timing mark. Install the fan, alternator, pulleys, and belts. Then add the radiator, shroud, hoses, thermostat, and sending units. Fill with coolant. Install the carburetor. Do all your tune-up & electrical next followed by vacuum and other hose routing. Put your vinyl dressing on before attaching the hoses. Add the battery, if not in already. If you bought a new repro, it came dry, and you'll need to add battery acid. You might want to set this up the night before. I painted the red letters on the top and side of the battery with red Testors model paint.
Detailing touches are next like decals, wax, and polish. Paint the body of the coil satin black, fit on the bracket, then apply the clear decal with gray writing. Paint the voltage regulator engine blue, then detail the metal bottom with EW Detail Gray paint or equivalent. Then apply the clear decal with yellow writing. Carefully apply air clear engine designation decals. Reinstall engine compartment braces.
Now you get to start it, tune-it and fool with it. Especially if you removed the distributor. Make sure your wires are correctly attached. I label each wire with masking tape and the cylinder #, then remove all wires from the spark plugs, leaving them attached to the distributor cap. I then match the new wires by length on the new cap, just like the old one. If the carb was properly set before, it should be properly set now; don't touch it.
Hope this helps. While I'm sure I missed something, this is the basic procedure. It resulted in 30 1st place finishes for my 70 Mach I in local shows, and four 2nd & 3rd place finishes at MCA, SAAC, and other national events. I've applied this methodology to about ten other cars I've worked on for friends. The results speak for themselves
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