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Old Sep 5, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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Folks, everyone needs to check ot the current issue of HOT ROD magazine. For ages youve been able to but complete bodys and frames for everything from 30's street rods, 50's pickups, and even jeeps. Now a company is stepping it up . A company is now producing a complete steel body on unibody 69 camaro . Exactly like it was built in 69! all you need add is the running gear, interior, and exterior trim ,and paint. the company says later they may even offer more completed cars that are almost turn key. I know most of you are wondering what does this do for us Ford folk. Well the company says next on there list of cars to produce are the 1967 mustang fastback!! Also in the future is 1970 cuda and 1969 mustang fastback!! It's only a matter of time before another company steps in and begins offering somthing different like say a different year model or maybe bodies at a cheaper price in order to be competative. The more companies that jump in the more variety we will see. "The street rodification of musclecars has begun"--Hot Rod Magazine.
Only bummer is that this will have an effect on the value of vintage mustangs probably drive value down
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Old Sep 5, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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now if i only had a spare 40,000$ laying around
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Old Sep 5, 2004 | 05:13 PM
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By the way the article said the price on the 69 camaro was 12,000 . Prices may be different for the fastback . As other companies start to build em prices may become more competitive . We'll just have to wait and see .
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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I think it is a good thing. I hope it will help our original prices. Maybe not at first. But later when you can show your VIN and the other guy has a non Ford VIN. I would hope that it would keep our cars at a higher level.

Sorta like an original Cobra vs a kit car?
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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i've had an idea lately of getting a beat up 1970 sportsroof and fixing it up. would it still be cheaper to get a beat up '70 and fixing it up, or will it be cheaper to buy the body from the company mentioned and adding the rest
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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i was thinking about making a 1970 restomod but i don't want to ruin a good original and all the rust buckets that are to much hasstle cost 3,000
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by warpony@September 5, 2004, 5:12 PM

Only bummer is that this will have an effect on the value of vintage mustangs probably drive value down
I disagree. Look at the value of REAL Cobras and kits cars. The person who wants a real Cobra most likely would not consider a kit.

The values of the originals will always be higher.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by charles@September 6, 2004, 4:35 PM
i was thinking about making a 1970 restomod but i don't want to ruin a good original and all the rust buckets that are to much hasstle cost 3,000
so, youre saying that it would be cheaper to shell out 12,000 for the body in perfect condition (although not original), than buying a 3,000 dollar rusted '70 sportsroof?


ebay rusted '70 sportsroof
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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Considering other than the roof and firewall, you can practically get every piece of sheetmetal for 65-67 Mustangs, we will see these kits in the near future.

I would love to rebuild a 65 Mustang one day, but all the hassles with rusted panels and bodywork makes for a tedious job. I would definitely look at this as an option.

$14000 for a perfect steel shell is a lot better than paying $2000 for a project car and two years and $$$$ just to get the body straight.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by Galaxie@September 6, 2004, 7:23 PM
Considering other than the roof and firewall, you can practically get every piece of sheetmetal for 65-67 Mustangs, we will see these kits in the near future.

I would love to rebuild a 65 Mustang one day, but all the hassles with rusted panels and bodywork makes for a tedious job. I would definitely look at this as an option.

$14000 for a perfect steel shell is a lot better than paying $2000 for a project car and two years and $$$$ just to get the body straight.
thanks a lot Steve.

you are a big help. i was thinking of restoring and then modding, just a little though.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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whats the name of the company?
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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I have a question. Admittedly I haven't read the article, but if these are actual "cars" (not replacement parts for existing cars) what model year are they considered? Are they kit cars? Do you have to register/certify them as such? Being in California I also wonder what the SMOG requirements would be.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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I believe they would be titled as early cars, just like fiberglass streetrods and kit-Cobras are. But like you, I didn't read the article.

I can't believe I'll have to describe my Mustang as a "vintage-bodied" rod.

As far as value goes, any modified car will always be judged on quality and style, whether it's original steel or new. Comparing this to rare cars like Cobras isn't a fair comparison. Fiberglass 32 Coupes bring just as much money as steel bodied 32 Coupes.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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anyone know the name of the company that is going to produce them???
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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FWIW, I wouldn't hold my breath for bargain prices. While the Camaro 'vert is listed at $12K, remember that it uses a seperate front subframe, whereas the Mustang is a true unibody. I'd bet that the 67 Mustang FB body will be $18k, give or take a couple thou.

And competition? I doubt it. There's too much development cost, licensing concerns, and questionable demand for more than one company to jump into this in the next 5 years. :nono:
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by GT350Clone@September 10, 2004, 10:20 AM
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FWIW, I wouldn't hold my breath for bargain prices. While the Camaro 'vert is listed at $12K, remember that it uses a seperate front subframe, whereas the Mustang is a true unibody. I'd bet that the 67 Mustang FB body will be $18k, give or take a couple thou.

And competition? I doubt it. There's too much development cost, licensing concerns, and questionable demand for more than one company to jump into this in the next 5 years. :nono:


doesnt sound good for my empty pockets
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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I remember a couple years ago seeing a picture from inside the Mosler Factory in Florida. They had a complete aluminum body for a '65 Mustang in there. Looked to be an exact copy. Then I never heard anything else about it. Anybody know anything about that?
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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Also - these "new" fastbacks would be minus the doors, hood, and trunk, wouldn't they? From what I understand, anything that screws or bolts on would not be included...
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by Dan66@September 15, 2004, 4:21 PM
Also - these "new" fastbacks would be minus the doors, hood, and trunk, wouldn't they? From what I understand, anything that screws or bolts on would not be included...
Based on the Hot Rod article, it sounds like it comes with hood, doors, fenders, deck lid and valances.
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 04:37 PM
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i'm wondering on the issue of titling the car, if these would be considered kit cars or "reproduction chassis" they sell new frames for just about anything that originally came with one and replacing a bad unibody could be considered the same thing as replacing a bad frame if you were to get technical. i guess it would depend on if you were actually replacing a damaged unibody or building a "new" car from the shell. any other ideas?
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