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Old 10/13/04 | 07:01 AM
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OK, I DON'T know the answer to this one... :scratch: Just thinking out loud, seeing if anyone answers...

Has anybody torn apart a set of front parking lights in an attempt to mount some of the small PIAA-type driving lights or foglights in their place? Since we can buy H4 bulbs with the turn signal bulb attached, that does open up the valance location . I'm thinking re-use / modify the "mounting bucket" and re-use the stock bezel..... Wish I would have kept my old take-offs so I cut slice & dice on them.

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Old 10/13/04 | 07:08 AM
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That is a good idea, I have a set that I took off my 66. I will have to look them over carefully and see what I can do. I guess the place to start is looking at the available fog or driving lights to see their size and depth.
Old 10/13/04 | 07:34 AM
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If you have to encounter a safety inspection you will fail with those as your turn signal, just a heads up.

Never hear from Nixon how those housings worked out for him. We had those as takeoffs from the cars shipped from SA.
Old 10/13/04 | 07:38 AM
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No inspections here.

Edjumicate me, why would they automatically fail?
Old 10/13/04 | 07:42 AM
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I'm going to play DMV here and tell you:

"Don't ask, they just do."

That pretty much is the reason. Honestly I never took the time to battle them on that one, it's such a headache to deal with the ride height alone that those "little" things are best to just work around.
Old 10/13/04 | 07:45 AM
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I have the "Antique" plates and registration for my 66, no such thing as an inspection.
Old 10/13/04 | 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by Jay@October 13, 2004, 7:37 AM
If you have to encounter a safety inspection you will fail with those as your turn signal, just a heads up.

Never hear from Nixon how those housings worked out for him. We had those as takeoffs from the cars shipped from SA.
I had to bend some of the tabs of the lower light to get it into the housing, but darn! They're bright!

They aren't even up in a relay yet and they're pullin' pretty bright... now if I could only get them adjusted good. :P
Old 10/13/04 | 07:49 AM
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Originally posted by GT350Clone@October 13, 2004, 7:41 AM
No inspections here.

Edjumicate me, why would they automatically fail?
My guess is...

"Your turn signals need to be a seperate light fixture."

(yes, I know, many cars appear to have them in the same area, or block, but I believe they are seperate from each other.... for instance on the Thunderbird, the whole thing LOOKS to be one unit, but in fact, the turn signals are in a seperate container from the headlights.)
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Oh well, non-issue for me anyway. I'm just surprised since I've seen several cars with integral headlight / turnsignals, and the turn signals are, in fact, part of the headlight housing on many new cars. :nono:

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Originally posted by Nixon@October 13, 2004, 9:51 AM
I had to bend some of the tabs of the lower light to get it into the housing, but darn! They're bright!

They aren't even up in a relay yet and they're pullin' pretty bright... now if I could only get them adjusted good. :P
You may have to trim out some of the housing to gain some additional clearance for the larger backend of the housing. Did you wire up the extra light?
Old 10/13/04 | 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by Nixon@October 13, 2004, 9:51 AM


They aren't even up in a relay yet and they're pullin' pretty bright... now if I could only get them adjusted good. :P
I always wonder when I read about the use and need of a relay to trip the headlights when using Halogen bulbs.

IIRC the incandescent bulbs have the same wattage as the standard and "legal" for street use bulbs in halogen lights. So, if the wattage is the same why is there a need fro the relay? :scratch: Granted if you are using the "for off road use only 100 watt bulbs I agree there is a need for a relay.
Old 10/13/04 | 08:00 AM
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As neat as the swap maybe, there's enough trouble with idiot drivers when I'm out. I really don't want to make it any more difficult for them to understand when I have my blinker on and where I intend to go.

The Pakrat situation has opened my eyes even wider to all the idiots buzzing around me when I'm out in the 'vert.
Old 10/13/04 | 08:06 AM
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Originally posted by 66HertzClone+October 13, 2004, 10:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (66HertzClone @ October 13, 2004, 10:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nixon@October 13, 2004, 9:51 AM


They aren't even up in a relay yet and they're pullin' pretty bright... now if I could only get them adjusted good. :P
I always wonder when I read about the use and need of a relay to trip the headlights when using Halogen bulbs.

IIRC the incandescent bulbs have the same wattage as the standard and "legal" for street use bulbs in halogen lights. So, if the wattage is the same why is there a need fro the relay? :scratch: Granted if you are using the "for off road use only 100 watt bulbs I agree there is a need for a relay. [/b][/quote]
I believe the relay comes into play because most guys run the factory wiring which is shot and full of shorts etc... so some fresh relay wiring works better and also goes around the probably old/weak headlight switch.
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