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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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there are allot of changes on the car that aren't seen that I'd have to list, but 1 note is that the rear wheels are 10" wide with 285 series Pirelli's mounted.

Russ you got to tell me how did you get the 10" wide wheels in Brembo Style?
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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[QUOTE=ExVP;6161115]What it would do for a couple hard laps on a road course is still unknown, but would like to find out some day with a good shoe behind the wheel.

Your wish is my command. (Just in case you haven't seen this)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwSPccbzl4

Torch Red Rules!!

Good job OP, how much are your springs?
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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Bucephalus,

I didn't see you post in this thread:

https://themustangsource.com/f726/br...vs-non-496908/

when some of us where looking for verification that the BBP was anything more than brakes, wheels, tires and esc tuning. Too bad you didn't post your info, but I still wonder if spring rates and strut/shock tuning and bushings are really any different on a BBP car over the GT. At least, I could not get that verified. . .. by anyone. Check the thread.

That said, I agree with you that the rear wheel well clearance is too much, and I think many agree on that. Your spring may be a good solution for that condition alone.
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 11:54 AM
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Bucephalus,

when some of us where looking for verification that the BBP was anything more than brakes, wheels, tires and esc tuning. Too bad you didn't post your info, but I still wonder if spring rates and strut/shock tuning and bushings are really any different on a BBP car over the GT. At least, I could not get that verified. . .. by anyone.
This is from my FAQ section of my website: Brembo50.com

"much confusion has been made as to what the "Brembo Brake Package" really consist of. The Brembo Brake Package was and is only offered on 6 speed manual transmission GTs. The official Ford Buyers guide list the option as nothing more than a brakes, wheels, tires. When one looks at part numbers on FordParts.com, you might see that all the mustangs models have the same part numbers listed, however the differences can only be detected by price and description, not part number. For this reason one must speak to Ford Parts Counter Person to get the actual extension numbers. If that's not confusing enough, you also have a whole global community of people on the internet posting ideas, theories and nonsense about what the "package" really consist of.

Because of all this confusion, it became easier for people to believe that the "Brembo Brake Package" (aka Option 55D) was just the addition of the Brakes and 19" Wheels and Tires, however, in really it is much more than that. Lets take a closer look.

First,we need to look at what a normal 2011-12 GT shares with a Brembo Mustang:

Part Specifications that ALL 2011-12 Mustang GTs come standard with including the Brembo Mustang:
  • Rear: 11.8" Vented Rotors with 1-Piston Calipers
  • Sway Bars ( 34.6mm Front/ 24mm Rear)
  • Strut Bar Brace
  • Higher Durometer Rubber Bushings

Second, lets look at what a standard 2011-12 Mustang GT does not have, that a Brembo Mustang does;

The (55D) Brembo Brake Package includes the following:

  • Front: 14" Brembo® Vented Rotors with Brembo® 4-Piston Calipers
  • 19 x 9.0-inch dark-stainless premium painted aluminum wheels
  • 255/40R19 Pirelli PZero Summer-Only (Coupe) or P255/40ZR19 Goodyear F1 Supercar (Convertible)
  • Different Springs (131lbs Front / 167lbs Rear)
  • Different Struts/ Shocks (tuned for spring rates)
  • GT-500 Rear Lower Control Arms ( Higher Durometer Rubber Bushings)
  • Unique Electronic Stability Control® (ESC) Tuning
  • Unique Sport Steering Control Setting (EPAS)
  • Tire Mobility Kit Replaces Spare Tire"
Hope this helps explain some things.

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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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Thanks MyStang, appreciate the kind words. Those are the 1st 2 pics I've turned loose on the internet. That little paint design cue on the front lower valance is one that makes the whole front end 'POP' visually. I've been watching for a year to see if anyone else tryed/posted a pic of the same paint idea. Still haven't seen one. Works real good in the Race Red but may not come off the same in the other colors.
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I like what you did on the front lower valance on the car ! Looks good and different
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 01:52 PM
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That addition was alittle painful on the wallet. The stock rear wheels I had professionally widened. I held my breath in doing it as I had concerns with weld integrity and trueness of the wheel afterwards. It came out very well, the welds were done by a machine and the entire wheel held in a fixture. Runs smooth as glass on the freeway all the way to 153 mph. The company is up in Michigan, WeldCraft. When you add shipping costs for 2 wheels up and back, doing the mod itself, buying 2 new 285 PZeros, it was a bit of a 'gulp'. I thought, Gawd, I don't want to do that again...but it does look cool.
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Russ you got to tell me how did you get the 10" wide wheels in Brembo Style?
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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Thanks for the spring rate info, never knew or found out what they were.
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Hey Russ, SWEET CAR looks very nice.

Springs Rates were tested and verified from Ford on Spring Manufacturers Machines.

STOCK "OEM" BREMBO MUSTANG SPRING RATES
Front Springs: 131 lbs
Rear Springs: 167 lbs
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 02:17 PM
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Thanks Slide, I've seen this video before but thanks just the same. My point with my car is that it's been altered from what the Brembo configuration is, even though it started as a regular Brembo GT. So my hope is that the thought I put into it, pieces I've elected to outfit on it and using/following design cues from the Boss that it would all translate into a performer that plants it somewhere between a Brembo and the Street going Boss when driven by a good shoe on a race track. [QUOTE=slidejob;6161273]
Originally Posted by ExVP
What it would do for a couple hard laps on a road course is still unknown, but would like to find out some day with a good shoe behind the wheel. To me, this is what the CS/GT should look like IMHO...and if not, I'd call it a Mustang GTB. :-)

Your wish is my command. (Just in case you haven't seen this)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwSPccbzl4

Torch Red Rules!!

Good job OP, how much are your springs?

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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 03:02 PM
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That addition was alittle painful on the wallet. The stock rear wheels I had professionally widened. I held my breath in doing it as I had concerns with weld integrity and trueness of the wheel afterwards. It came out very well, the welds were done by a machine and the entire wheel held in a fixture. Runs smooth as glass on the freeway all the way to 153 mph. The company is up in Michigan, WeldCraft. When you add shipping costs for 2 wheels up and back, doing the mod itself, buying 2 new 285 PZeros, it was a bit of a 'gulp'. I thought, Gawd, I don't want to do that again...but it does look cool.
They are very nice and subtle, exactly what I would want. But sound like cost is a little steep.

I took a little less expensive route. I had some custom aluminum width spacers made for my rear wheels to give them that wider than the front look. Cost me $75 bucks. Maybe if there was enough of an interest in these "brembo" spacers I could sell them for the same price?

Most Universal spacers are normally .25 inch or wider and do not work safely because they have less than 6 threads on the studs to keep the wheels on and that's not a good thing, not to mention that with the wheel offset on the Brembo wheels, your tire will potentially hit the wheel lip and/or rub with hard cornering. So you are really limited on what spacer size you can use. Hence the reason I had to make my own. I even looked into longer studs, lets just say you don't want to go down that road at all.

Here's a side view of what they look like with the 55D Spring Kit on.

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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 10:20 AM
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Any rub issues with the spacers you installed on the rear? there isn't much relief from hitting the inner fender lip or from the rear axle shifting side to side just a little with axle travel.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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Any rub issues with the spacers you installed on the rear? there isn't much relief from hitting the inner fender lip or from the rear axle shifting side to side just a little with axle travel.
No issues at all. I've used them for over 6 months. When i made them, i measured everything to make sure that didn't happen. Works with stock springs or the 55D Spring Kit.
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 06:32 AM
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I can't even finish reading this trash. You're "trying" WAY too "hard" to sound *like* you "know" what you're "talking" about by using *TERRIBLE* "punctuation". Post a before and after with the sun at the same angle showing the dirt on the tire treads in both pics. The pics look the same to me. From what I gather...you lowered only the rear less than an inch, and created the perfect suspension...That about right? Well there's always someone out there that will buy anything...good luck with sale.
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If you're going to criticize someone's punctuantion, you really ought to make sure yours is perfect, else you'll look like a complete boob.

Just sayin'.

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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 02:28 PM
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If you're going to criticize someone's punctuantion, you really ought to make sure yours is perfect, else you'll look like a complete boob.

Just sayin'.
You completely missed the point. I wasn't criticizing his punctuation. I was pointing out that he's trying to sound like an expert in a field in which he's clearly not.
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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You completely missed the point. I wasn't criticizing his punctuation. I was pointing out that he's trying to sound like an expert in a field in which he's clearly not.
Hence my comment of "hogwash". I think he's onto a pretty good product offering, but if he'd given me his written sales pitch in person, I would have laughed out loud.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 02:03 AM
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You commented on my post to someone that did say hogwash....or did you forget that already.....

So move one yourself
lol I will move "one" if you will
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 06:09 AM
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Hope you sell a million, but a simple set of Steeda Sports work magic, with a better stance, less gap and no negative side effects whatsoever.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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lol I will move "one" if you will
LOL..stupid auto-correct!!

Ok, I just went to the restroom and "moved" "one" for ya
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by crescent_wrench
Hope you sell a million, but a simple set of Steeda Sports work magic, with a better stance, less gap and no negative side effects whatsoever.
The Steeda Sports are nice, but you NEED the Koni Yellows to make it "work".
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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The Steeda Sports are nice, but you NEED the Koni Yellows to make it "work".
Hogwash^2.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jsnyng

Hogwash^2.
Looks like you autocross. Tell me what the steeda sport spring rates are and the shocks you are using?

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