Jazzman442

OK all I have a question about oil separators? I have read for days on this and now that my car is here I am stumped.

My car has the track pack. I have around 200 miles on her and I pulled the pcv pipe off last night. I was amazed at what I saw...

Nothing No oil in the pipe not even on the valve cover side.

So my question: Is there something different on the Track pack cars? Is there a difference because they use 5W50 oil instead of 5W20?

Deerslayer

A lot depends on how much spirited driving you do. WOT and hard turns running the car hard will def produce some oil on the passenger side. We have run breathers which are good, but you need to occasionally clean the filter and COULD see some oil on the passenger coil cover if you havent cleaned it in a while. We now are FI so breathers would need to be cleaned more so in lieu of that, I mimicked what a lot of road race teams do. It is a modified breather system that ensures NO oil will enter your intake and it will keep the bay completely clean. You can build it yourself for a lot cheaper if you use regular hose and clamps. Here is our setup:

Jazzman442

What did you use to make this? It looks great.

John H

I have a month old 2014 Track Pack car and am about to hit 2,500 miles. I put the SR Performance oil separator on mine a couple/few hundred miles ago. The other day I was curious and opened the thing to see how much oil it had collected. I was very surprised to see about a table spoon of oil in there after 200-300 miles.

I do like to get on it quite a bit, especially after installing the Roush axle back. But I'm not redlining it or anything close to that. So I would say it's definitely worth getting one unless you baby the car.

dave07

So you built a catch can? But seriously we need more details on your modified breather system. Looks bad ***!

cdynaco

You are not considering the atomized oil and fuel in the blow by gases that you do not see. That bake on intake ports & valves and affect your A/F.

Deerslayer

Here is a link that I did on another site. This system originally was done on Bossmustangsonline. That is where I got the idea and saw how to do it. Like I stated above, you can save a TON of $ if you use regular clamps and hose to build this. The breather can's have gone up a ridicules amount lately for some reason. You can also find cheaper alternatives for the breather cans. This is a great system though. Most of the big road racing teams use this system.

http://www.mustangevolution.com/forum/f358/t353021/




You will already have part # 7 on your car. you just cut the line off of it and use the valve connector.

Here is the list, but I have noticed the cans are way more now:

1. (1) - Peterson Fluid Systems 08-0400 Breather Can with AN -12 Ports (about $90), Link: http://amzn.to/WOzGUC
2. (2) - Summit 220244B - AN -10 to AN -12 Adapter Black (about $10.25/ea.)
3. (2) - Earl's AT800110ERL - AN -10 ST Ano-Tuff Swivel-Seal Hose Ends (about $13.25/ea.)
4. (2) - Fragola E-Z Clamp Hose End, -10 AN - Black (about $6.95/ea.)
5. (1) - Earl's 350610ERL - AN -10 PRO-LITE 350 HOSE 6 FOOT (about $57.95)
6. (1) - Dorman 02253 - Bypass Cap Assortment (about $5.00) + (2) hose clamps to secure the caps.
   
   OEM Parts:
7. (1) - CR3Z-6A664-A - HOSE VENT ($9.44)
8. (1) - 4L2Z-6762-AA - ELBOW, CRANKCASE VENT ($11.31)

Deerslayer

Great price on a can if someone moves quick:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Peterson-Fluid-Systems-Spun-Aluminum-Breather-Tank-Can-Racing-Dry-Sump-System-/370922060972?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item565cad7cac&vxp=mtr
Here is an example of another breather can you could use. You would need to get one 90* fitting but this would work the same as the Peterson can

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Baffled-Aluminum-Breather-Tank-Oil-Catch-Can-Tube-with-1-2-Ports-Black-/251366721649?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item3a869fc871&vxp=mtr

slow.stang

It is because you have an oil cooler, a lot of people think these separators catch blow by. The majority of it is just vapor caused by the oil heating. Which is why I made my own and made the hose longer than most aftermarket ones are, gives the oil vapor time to condensate so it can be caught.

cdynaco

There is positive crankcase pressure. The key part to a good oil sep is the proper flow rate vs taking a wild guess. Which is why JLT catches so little (too restrictive) compared to others. Allegedly JLT is correcting this.

slow.stang

Mine flows like Jay-Z

Jazzman442

Thank you Deerslayer the can you made is incredible. Thank you for taking the time to put the parts list together.

Jazzman442

You would think some one would make a device to put on the PCV connector that would allow the system to breath but leave the oil in the valve area.

I have a suburban with 270.000 miles on it and the inside looks like day one so does the intake. But they use a PCV valve cover that wont let the oil out but will let it breath...

Deerslayer

I left my PCV valve in.

Gabe

I plan on using a Billet Tech catch can very soon ... one of the best cans on the market, huge with the Mopar guys

70monte

They say Billet Tech and UPR are almost identical in design and Billet Tech claims UPR copied their design. In fact, UPR makes their new design diffuser which fits the Billet Tech's can and the only difference is that on the Billet Tech can, the diffuser is held on with screws instead of a rubber O-ring like UPR uses. I know when I ran a UPR can, it caught a lot of oil but I was still getting oil over to the intake.


Wayne

cdynaco

I've never understood why Ford doesn't use an actual 'Pollution Control Valve' vs a straight wide open breather tube. That one way valve used in most cars is cheap and it works.

cdynaco

V6...?

cdynaco

My oil sep collects 3/8oz every 450 miles and BKU Motorsports set the valving to match Ford specs of the flow rate for the 4.6L3V. I don't know if its the same rate for the or not.

dmichaels

I caught about a tablespoon over 120 track miles at a recent event.

On the road, it's more like a tablespoon every 1000 miles it seems. Worth installing IMO