2014 V6 + performance package top speed/driveshaft issues
2/16/14, 11:53 AM
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Go ahead and get a GT shaft and put it in your V6, you will need a GT axle flange to hook it to the rear axle, but the bolt holes are already in the floor pan to bolt the center support bearing up.
Oh yeah, you will also need to lengthen it as the V6 shaft is longer...OOPS! Plan busted!
I have a brand new take off GT shaft sitting here if anyone wants to try it.
Oh yeah, you will also need to lengthen it as the V6 shaft is longer...OOPS! Plan busted!
I have a brand new take off GT shaft sitting here if anyone wants to try it.
2/16/14, 12:38 PM
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2/16/14, 01:18 PM
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You're right, it's a pointless argument...just frustrating, that's all.
I really didn't want to have to swap drive shafts before tracking it. I probably won't need it at first anyways...but having it fail will always been in the back of my mind, especially approaching triple digits.
I really didn't want to have to swap drive shafts before tracking it. I probably won't need it at first anyways...but having it fail will always been in the back of my mind, especially approaching triple digits.
2/16/14, 01:34 PM
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You're right, it's a pointless argument...just frustrating, that's all.
I really didn't want to have to swap drive shafts before tracking it. I probably won't need it at first anyways...but having it fail will always been in the back of my mind, especially approaching triple digits.
I really didn't want to have to swap drive shafts before tracking it. I probably won't need it at first anyways...but having it fail will always been in the back of my mind, especially approaching triple digits.
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2/16/14, 01:37 PM
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On a lot of tracks you'll be fine with the limit at 112 particularly at first. I track my 2014 GT TP, and I've only gotten to ~125 so far. It takes a pretty long straight to go over 120 even in a V8. So you may be fine with the stock shaft and limiter in place. Might be worth while to install a safety loop just in case though, particularly if you decide to up the limit.
2/16/14, 02:03 PM
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Go ahead and get a GT shaft and put it in your V6, you will need a GT axle flange to hook it to the rear axle, but the bolt holes are already in the floor pan to bolt the center support bearing up.
Oh yeah, you will also need to lengthen it as the V6 shaft is longer...OOPS! Plan busted!
I have a brand new take off GT shaft sitting here if anyone wants to try it.
Oh yeah, you will also need to lengthen it as the V6 shaft is longer...OOPS! Plan busted!
I have a brand new take off GT shaft sitting here if anyone wants to try it.
2/16/14, 02:14 PM
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Go ahead and get a GT shaft and put it in your V6, you will need a GT axle flange to hook it to the rear axle, but the bolt holes are already in the floor pan to bolt the center support bearing up.
Oh yeah, you will also need to lengthen it as the V6 shaft is longer...OOPS! Plan busted!
I have a brand new take off GT shaft sitting here if anyone wants to try it.
Oh yeah, you will also need to lengthen it as the V6 shaft is longer...OOPS! Plan busted!
I have a brand new take off GT shaft sitting here if anyone wants to try it.
But hey, if you don't believe me then I am more than willing to sell the GT shaft that I have and ship it to you. I have $100 in it, will take that for it plus the shipping.
2/16/14, 02:17 PM
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im not saying i dont believe you. im just trying to figure out why it would be shorter. is it not the pinion yoke sticks out farther or is that transmission sitting further up?
2/16/14, 02:19 PM
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You could make it work but would need a spacer to go between the transmission flange and the front driveshaft flange.
Was planning just that but sold my '12 V6 and didn't need it anymore.
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2/16/14, 02:53 PM
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2/16/14, 03:37 PM
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Engine and transmission on the V6 sits further forward in the chassis, about two inches.
You could make it work but would need a spacer to go between the transmission flange and the front driveshaft flange.
Was planning just that but sold my '12 V6 and didn't need it anymore.
You could make it work but would need a spacer to go between the transmission flange and the front driveshaft flange.
Was planning just that but sold my '12 V6 and didn't need it anymore.
2/16/14, 03:44 PM
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So, $365 to put the GT shaft in, good to at least 155 mph, heavier than aluminum but quite a bit less $$$.
As I said, I was going to do it, but when the car went away so did my need.
2/16/14, 03:55 PM
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Probably $100-$150 to get a machine shop to make the spacer, $100 for my GT shaft, $40 for my GT pinion flange, $75 probably for shipping.
So, $365 to put the GT shaft in, good to at least 155 mph, heavier than aluminum but quite a bit less $$$.
As I said, I was going to do it, but when the car went away so did my need.
2/16/14, 05:30 PM
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2/16/14, 09:21 PM
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Yep, nothing has changed. Ford spokeswoman said that if you want to go faster you should buy the V8. I thought that was a terrible answer and a slap in the face, but seems like the only way to go faster in the V6 is to get a one piece drive shaft and a tune to remove the limiter.
This one cracked me up too where did you get that one? LOL
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2/16/14, 09:31 PM
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The reality is that the compact (and I believe sub compact) economy minded Ford vehicles are able to attain a higher top speed, modified or stock.
A Toyota Camry has a higher stock limiter...
2/16/14, 09:55 PM
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Bro, totally agree. Funny how the 11 plus 3.7's have nearly the equal power of 2010 Gt's yet people don't think of them as performance vehicles because of its v6 engine. Funny how the engine determines if a car is performance oriented yet puts down 1/4 mile and 0-60 mph times almost equal to 2010 Gt models.
The 11 plus v6 performance package comes with Gt suspension, high speed rated 19 inch radial tires like the Gt , 3:31 gears like many 2010 Gt models. 10 less HP compared too a 10 GT yet its not considered too be a real performance vehicle so that's why the driveshaft is not as good. That's insane and crap. A stock 11 plus v6 with 3:31 gears will run almost identical or maybe within 1 to 2 tenths behind a 2010 Gt but its not performance oriented. Bull crap.
Yes the Gt provides a higher level of performance compared to the V6 model but that doesn't mean the V6 model is what it was 10 years ago. People buy them because the car delivers amazing power and performance, great looks, handles well all for thousands less than a GT. Not everybody wants or needs a 420 HP car too drive too and from work and Wal Mart.
The 11 plus v6 performance package comes with Gt suspension, high speed rated 19 inch radial tires like the Gt , 3:31 gears like many 2010 Gt models. 10 less HP compared too a 10 GT yet its not considered too be a real performance vehicle so that's why the driveshaft is not as good. That's insane and crap. A stock 11 plus v6 with 3:31 gears will run almost identical or maybe within 1 to 2 tenths behind a 2010 Gt but its not performance oriented. Bull crap.
Yes the Gt provides a higher level of performance compared to the V6 model but that doesn't mean the V6 model is what it was 10 years ago. People buy them because the car delivers amazing power and performance, great looks, handles well all for thousands less than a GT. Not everybody wants or needs a 420 HP car too drive too and from work and Wal Mart.