Rumor bench racing: 2015 Mustang vs. 2015 Camaro (ATS based) vs. 2015 Barracuda
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Rumor bench racing: 2015 Mustang vs. 2015 Camaro (ATS based) vs. 2015 Barracuda
Which are you most excited for? Which is looking like the winner?
2015 Mustang rumors:
lighter than S197
IRS
Similar dimensions to S197 (but with longer overhangs?) according to C&D
Will retain 5.0 Coyote, will also offer boosted 4cyl, 5.8L Cobra motor probably won't be available
mostly non-retro style
2015 SRT Barracuda rumors:
Top model to have a supercharged 6.2L Hemi
IRS
smaller/lighter than outgoing Challenger
mostly non-retro style
2015 Camaro rumorsBased on the excellent Caddilac ATS platform
IRS
Smaller, lighter than current gen Camaro
2015 Mustang rumors:
lighter than S197
IRS
Similar dimensions to S197 (but with longer overhangs?) according to C&D
Will retain 5.0 Coyote, will also offer boosted 4cyl, 5.8L Cobra motor probably won't be available
mostly non-retro style
2015 SRT Barracuda rumors:
Top model to have a supercharged 6.2L Hemi
IRS
smaller/lighter than outgoing Challenger
mostly non-retro style
2015 Camaro rumorsBased on the excellent Caddilac ATS platform
IRS
Smaller, lighter than current gen Camaro
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Hard to tell as all three cars have great potential to be, well, great. My heart would be for the Stang. Ford already has some top-notch motors, especially the 5.0. Add IRS competence and capability, trim 200-300lbs of fat and you have the makings of a working man's M3.
As for the next Camaro, the ATS chassis is really great and GM's upcoming next-gen small block looks to be a real powerhouse too, so there's real potential there if GM executes it well. Hopefully it will be less of a rolling gun bunker, styling wise.
The Challenger is the one car I would love to see retain its styling as I think it is easily the best of the current three pony cars -- just if they would render it in perhaps 3/4 scale. Of course, some of the Cuda models were lookers too, so if Chrysler does and equally good interpretation with them, that could be a good thing.
As for the next Camaro, the ATS chassis is really great and GM's upcoming next-gen small block looks to be a real powerhouse too, so there's real potential there if GM executes it well. Hopefully it will be less of a rolling gun bunker, styling wise.
The Challenger is the one car I would love to see retain its styling as I think it is easily the best of the current three pony cars -- just if they would render it in perhaps 3/4 scale. Of course, some of the Cuda models were lookers too, so if Chrysler does and equally good interpretation with them, that could be a good thing.
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that doesn't mean crap.
I own a new mustang yeah but I'd love to see what that 'cuda has to offer.
Camaros are the ugliest of the ugliest so that's not even in question. Their interior makes me want to puke so they need a complete overhaul is they want my money in the future.
I own a new mustang yeah but I'd love to see what that 'cuda has to offer.
Camaros are the ugliest of the ugliest so that's not even in question. Their interior makes me want to puke so they need a complete overhaul is they want my money in the future.
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Originally Posted by mopar?
that doesn't mean crap.
I own a new mustang yeah but I'd love to see what that 'cuda has to offer.
Camaros are the ugliest of the ugliest so that's not even in question. Their interior makes me want to puke so they need a complete overhaul is they want my money in the future.
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Calm down, all I'm saying is that most of the people on this forum are mustang loyal. I'm not particularly brand loyal I've owned several makes, yet I like many here have a mustang bias. Unless Ford seriously screws this car up the majority of people on the forum will pick the mustang every time. It is an interesting question but unless we are in an unbiased forum the mustang will always be most highly awaited. My prediction the camaro is going to be the most powerful, the mustang most balanced and the Dodge once again will be the least popular. Camaro and mustang have such a loyal following that Dodge lost in the 80s and 90s.
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IMO, If the Camaro comes out anywhere close to the weight of the ATS (3400lbs), the Mustang will get creamed and lose it's performance advantage that it enjoys now that is if the Mustang only drop a few hundred lbs.
The Mustang needs to be at 3300lbs or lower and bump the Hp to 440 to stay competitive for the next go around, unfortunately I don't see them dropping that much weight of the Mustang.
The Mustang needs to be at 3300lbs or lower and bump the Hp to 440 to stay competitive for the next go around, unfortunately I don't see them dropping that much weight of the Mustang.
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i think the cuda as they havent made them since 1974 im very excited about seeing the new cuda as i own a 73 purple 340 cuda show car,i was saving my money to buy one but now i own a 2006 roush stage 3 i dont want a cuda anymore as there is no way it could look better than my roush or faster.600hp crank 530 rwhp.
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Originally Posted by wildfire2006
i think the cuda as they havent made them since 1974 im very excited about seeing the new cuda as i own a 73 purple 340 cuda show car,i was saving my money to buy one but now i own a 2006 roush stage 3 i dont want a cuda anymore as there is no way it could look better than my roush or faster.600hp crank 530 rwhp.
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The Zeta Chassis will no longer be used and the Alpha chassis will take its place.
The Cadillac ATS weighs 3400lbs meaning that the Camaro won't need to lose weight when it inherent its lighter weight by the nature of a better chassis.
The next gen Camaro IMO will be somewhere 3300-3400lbs with a revise engine for fuel and performance, good low and mid range will make it a big winner for the performance minded crowed.
As for the next gen Mustang, I don't really see it losing to much weight if anything at all. untill the Gen after when they'll have to down size it but this could also mean a smaller displacement engine as-well.
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I do, the current gen Camaro weights 3850lbs SS with a manual almost the same as the G8 in which it shares it current chassis with, known as the zeta.
The Zeta Chassis will no longer be used and the Alpha chassis will take its place.
The Cadillac ATS weighs 3400lbs meaning that the Camaro won't need to lose weight when it inherent its lighter weight by the nature of a better chassis.
The next gen Camaro IMO will be somewhere 3300-3400lbs with a revise engine for fuel and performance, good low and mid range will make it a big winner for the performance minded crowed.
As for the next gen Mustang, I don't really see it losing to much weight if anything at all. untill the Gen after when they'll have to down size it but this could also mean a smaller displacement engine as-well.
The Zeta Chassis will no longer be used and the Alpha chassis will take its place.
The Cadillac ATS weighs 3400lbs meaning that the Camaro won't need to lose weight when it inherent its lighter weight by the nature of a better chassis.
The next gen Camaro IMO will be somewhere 3300-3400lbs with a revise engine for fuel and performance, good low and mid range will make it a big winner for the performance minded crowed.
As for the next gen Mustang, I don't really see it losing to much weight if anything at all. untill the Gen after when they'll have to down size it but this could also mean a smaller displacement engine as-well.
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forgot to add a big advertising budget as well.
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I'm curious how the next camaro is going to look I've heard so much about the mustang but nothing on the camaro. Shouldn't they be testing prototypes by now?