Window tint with felt installed with pics
4/13/06, 01:31 PM
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Finally got around to tinting my windows today. Took the GT to a shop that I've used for years, Classic Window Tinting located in Orange, CA. These guys are the pros in what they do. Shop owner was already aware of the need for felt on our Mustangs so that wasn't an issue.
Note: Only partial disassembly of the door panel was required to remove the wiper channel. Felt used was the 'felt' side of a velcro kit. Proper sanding/cleaning of the wiper channel is necessary to have 100% adhesion. Although some installers remove the whole door panel, this may not be necessary (as you see in the pics).
UPDATE, 11/05/06: There has been numerous complaints about the Velcro felt sliding down and exposing the adhesive glue (which streaks onto the tint). So, as a solution, I have been recommended to install Moleskin in its place. Directions can be read here.
UPDATE, 3/14/08: Classic Tint now installs Moleskin and no longer uses Velcro.
If you're local, I whole heartedly recommend this shop. Mine was their 6th or 7th 05/06 Mustang they've tinted and installed felt on.
Tint used: Solar Guard HP Titanium 33 (light-medium)
Fresh in the bay
Back window layout
Heat applied to form fit
Installing tint on back window
Removing door panel screws to access (window) wipe channel
Top of door panel is pulled back just far enough to access the channel
Channel being pulled up then slid out
Side view of removed channel and panel pulled back
Surface of channel (where it contacts the window) is prepped for felt
Felt being installed (felt material is the soft side of a velcro kit)
Felt installed complete
Wipe channel being reinstalled back into door
Front window tint being trimmed and fitted
Front window tint being installed
Tint being feathered into window glass
Tint install complete!
View out the back
Note: Only partial disassembly of the door panel was required to remove the wiper channel. Felt used was the 'felt' side of a velcro kit. Proper sanding/cleaning of the wiper channel is necessary to have 100% adhesion. Although some installers remove the whole door panel, this may not be necessary (as you see in the pics).
UPDATE, 11/05/06: There has been numerous complaints about the Velcro felt sliding down and exposing the adhesive glue (which streaks onto the tint). So, as a solution, I have been recommended to install Moleskin in its place. Directions can be read here.
UPDATE, 3/14/08: Classic Tint now installs Moleskin and no longer uses Velcro.
If you're local, I whole heartedly recommend this shop. Mine was their 6th or 7th 05/06 Mustang they've tinted and installed felt on.
Tint used: Solar Guard HP Titanium 33 (light-medium)
Fresh in the bay
Back window layout
Heat applied to form fit
Installing tint on back window
Removing door panel screws to access (window) wipe channel
Top of door panel is pulled back just far enough to access the channel
Channel being pulled up then slid out
Side view of removed channel and panel pulled back
Surface of channel (where it contacts the window) is prepped for felt
Felt being installed (felt material is the soft side of a velcro kit)
Felt installed complete
Wipe channel being reinstalled back into door
Front window tint being trimmed and fitted
Front window tint being installed
Tint being feathered into window glass
Tint install complete!
View out the back
Last edited by TacoBill; 3/14/08 at 12:35 PM. Reason: Update note added.
4/13/06, 01:49 PM
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Excellent write up [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img] However, I am moving this to the interior mods section since window tint is an interior mod, not an exterior mod [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
4/14/06, 07:50 AM
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Thanks guys. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen.gif[/img]
Just trying to take as many pics of the 'I read about it, but dunno what it looks like' stuff. If it helps just one member out, it was worth my effort.
Just trying to take as many pics of the 'I read about it, but dunno what it looks like' stuff. If it helps just one member out, it was worth my effort.
4/14/06, 08:02 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(199 @ April 14, 2006, 6:50 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
i will probbley do this my self was it easy to remove the wipe channel, and installing it back again? and, the 'felt' from velcro kit doesn't scratch up the tint at all?
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I was watching them closely when they removed the wipers.
There's 2 screws that must be removed from the back of the door panel and 1 screw on the forward side.
The installer then grasped the top of the door panel near the edge and door lock pin area (windows rolled down) and lifted slightly up and pulled back at the same time. This disconnected the top section of the door panel, just enough space to get a hold of the wiper channel.
The wiper channel seems to be on a track. The installer grabbed a hold of the back end and slowly lifted it out of it's channel (in the door) and slid it out from the rear.
re-installation was the the opposite.
Remember to scuff the window mating side of the wiper with sandpaper and wipe it down with alcohol before tacking down the felt strip for proper adhesion.
This velco felt is what's used by this tinting shop. I was told that there are a few other vehicles that require felt besides the new Mustangs and this is what they use.
Hope this helps.
i will probbley do this my self was it easy to remove the wipe channel, and installing it back again? and, the 'felt' from velcro kit doesn't scratch up the tint at all?
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199-
I was watching them closely when they removed the wipers.
There's 2 screws that must be removed from the back of the door panel and 1 screw on the forward side.
The installer then grasped the top of the door panel near the edge and door lock pin area (windows rolled down) and lifted slightly up and pulled back at the same time. This disconnected the top section of the door panel, just enough space to get a hold of the wiper channel.
The wiper channel seems to be on a track. The installer grabbed a hold of the back end and slowly lifted it out of it's channel (in the door) and slid it out from the rear.
re-installation was the the opposite.
Remember to scuff the window mating side of the wiper with sandpaper and wipe it down with alcohol before tacking down the felt strip for proper adhesion.
This velco felt is what's used by this tinting shop. I was told that there are a few other vehicles that require felt besides the new Mustangs and this is what they use.
Hope this helps.
4/14/06, 09:54 AM
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I wonder how well the velcro adhesive would hold up under extreme heat. Same with any glue used on add-on felt or moleskin. I didn't get felt on my last car, and it scratched the windows up pretty good in just 6 months. Now that I'm getting a second chance at this with the '07, I want to make sure I get it right. And since I live in Las Vegas, summer heat is a definite problem. I just dont' want to come out to the car on a hot day and have the felt seperate from the wipe when I open the door. That could get really messy when I go through a drive-thru also.
Any one else here or in Phoenix (or anywhere else that gets really really hot) have a problem with the glue used on your felt, if you have it?
Any one else here or in Phoenix (or anywhere else that gets really really hot) have a problem with the glue used on your felt, if you have it?
4/14/06, 10:12 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jayguy @ April 14, 2006, 8:57 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I wonder how well the velcro adhesive would hold up under extreme heat. Same with any glue used on add-on felt or moleskin. I didn't get felt on my last car, and it scratched the windows up pretty good in just 6 months. Now that I'm getting a second chance at this with the '07, I want to make sure I get it right. And since I live in Las Vegas, summer heat is a definite problem. I just dont' want to come out to the car on a hot day and have the felt seperate from the wipe when I open the door. That could get really messy when I go through a drive-thru also.
Any one else here or in Phoenix (or anywhere else that gets really really hot) have a problem with the glue used on your felt, if you have it?
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Jay, come summer, conduct a little experiment.
Go buy some quality velcro (with the strong 3M adhesive) and stick the felt side to a piece of plastic/hard rubber and leave it in your car during the day. After a few hours in the Vegas sun, or when you think it's hot enough, check the adhesion of that felt strip. See if the adhesive 'melted' right off or if it holds.
I wonder how well the velcro adhesive would hold up under extreme heat. Same with any glue used on add-on felt or moleskin. I didn't get felt on my last car, and it scratched the windows up pretty good in just 6 months. Now that I'm getting a second chance at this with the '07, I want to make sure I get it right. And since I live in Las Vegas, summer heat is a definite problem. I just dont' want to come out to the car on a hot day and have the felt seperate from the wipe when I open the door. That could get really messy when I go through a drive-thru also.
Any one else here or in Phoenix (or anywhere else that gets really really hot) have a problem with the glue used on your felt, if you have it?
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Jay, come summer, conduct a little experiment.
Go buy some quality velcro (with the strong 3M adhesive) and stick the felt side to a piece of plastic/hard rubber and leave it in your car during the day. After a few hours in the Vegas sun, or when you think it's hot enough, check the adhesion of that felt strip. See if the adhesive 'melted' right off or if it holds.
4/14/06, 12:36 PM
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This is a great thread, My tint on my car is scratched to pieces. I went back to the tint shop and they told me since it was a brand new car I should try to see if the dealer would instal the felt. They have done all my cars and do a good job. This is the first kind of bad experience I've had with them. They did say they would retint to car for free, but that they didn't instal the felt. I'm thinking I'll just put the felt in myself and then get it retinted.
Soooo I basically just need to go buy some velcro from auto zone or somethin? lol This looks very easy it just makes me nervous rippin at the door of my new 06....
Soooo I basically just need to go buy some velcro from auto zone or somethin? lol This looks very easy it just makes me nervous rippin at the door of my new 06....
4/14/06, 12:51 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(WuTimeUT @ April 14, 2006, 11:39 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Soooo I basically just need to go buy some velcro from auto zone or somethin? lol This looks very easy it just makes me nervous rippin at the door of my new 06....
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Makes me nervous too, that's why I had someone else do it! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen.gif[/img]
I would go for a nice black industrial grade velcro (maybe by 3M?) or whatever brand from Home Depot or Lowe's. I believe it's the standard 1" wide ones.
I tell you, they had the screws out, panel popped open, and the wiper channel out in less than 5 minutes! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/eek.gif[/img] So it can't be that difficult.
Soooo I basically just need to go buy some velcro from auto zone or somethin? lol This looks very easy it just makes me nervous rippin at the door of my new 06....
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Makes me nervous too, that's why I had someone else do it! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen.gif[/img]
I would go for a nice black industrial grade velcro (maybe by 3M?) or whatever brand from Home Depot or Lowe's. I believe it's the standard 1" wide ones.
I tell you, they had the screws out, panel popped open, and the wiper channel out in less than 5 minutes! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/eek.gif[/img] So it can't be that difficult.
4/14/06, 01:22 PM
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sorry just one more question, when putting the felt on the rubber piece, does it cover the whole section or should it still leave some rubber contacting the window.... it seems that if the rubber is no longer touching the window, just felt, wont there be a lot of water getting into the doors? Thanks again,
4/14/06, 01:27 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(WuTimeUT @ April 14, 2006, 10:01 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
well lol I'm about to do it RIGHT NOW! I'm on my way to Lowes...
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can you take pic specifically about how you remove the window wipper channel,, and give us some tips,, does and don'ts
well lol I'm about to do it RIGHT NOW! I'm on my way to Lowes...
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can you take pic specifically about how you remove the window wipper channel,, and give us some tips,, does and don'ts
4/14/06, 01:44 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(WuTimeUT @ April 14, 2006, 12:25 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
sorry just one more question, when putting the felt on the rubber piece, does it cover the whole section or should it still leave some rubber contacting the window.... it seems that if the rubber is no longer touching the window, just felt, wont there be a lot of water getting into the doors? Thanks again,
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Felt is against the window on the INSIDE, should not be affected by outside water.
All other cars have felt, so I don't believe that's an issue.
And yes, if you look at my pics carefully, it covers the entire width; wiper channel is probably 1" wide.
sorry just one more question, when putting the felt on the rubber piece, does it cover the whole section or should it still leave some rubber contacting the window.... it seems that if the rubber is no longer touching the window, just felt, wont there be a lot of water getting into the doors? Thanks again,
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Felt is against the window on the INSIDE, should not be affected by outside water.
All other cars have felt, so I don't believe that's an issue.
And yes, if you look at my pics carefully, it covers the entire width; wiper channel is probably 1" wide.
4/14/06, 02:26 PM
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I just bought some felt and I already slid out the rubber.... Just remove the 3 screws and pop open the panel a little, the rubber slides right out.... Very easy.... Thanks for all the tips!