The foxes were very much Mustangs. They were torquey front engine V8s with solid limited slip rear axles, true dual exhaust, blah, blah, blah. You can agrue that the look of the foxes wasn't in step with it's heritage, but the basics of the car were all there. It's not like the foxes turned into the Probe, which almost did happen.

 

The Foxes were about as Euro and out of step (design-wise) from the Mustang heritage as you can get, but you're hung up on the 2010 being too Euro because of some awkward taillights and a chunky bumper?

 

Jack Telnack Chief Designer of the 79 Fox Body Mustang Stated In Many Interviews that When they Came to Redesign the Mustang That the New Mustang Was Inspired By European Cars, in It's Design and Execution.

I Know My Design History, I Am A Designer Myself and Pride My Self In the Knowledge I have of Automotive Design and History, Especially Fords.

 

LMAO!

 

Front looks Japanese squinting, rear looks like a Celica! This new Mustang is not of the legendary line, more of the Mustang 2 of the mid seventies.

 

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Oh yeah, dont forget the engine bay is boring.

 

Everything at the time was Euro based ... it was the trend of the time. They were doing anything they could do move away from the Mustang II image ... and in reality, the Mustang II was not a terrible car, but a product of the fuel crisis of the early 70's more than anything.

 

I photo shopped the front grill "uprights" on the GT from black to body color. Looks much less like the "squinting" stated above and more mustang like the current GT500. If i ever figure how to load an image from my hard drive to the site I will post it up.

 

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That does make the front look more upright, not as squished, but l like that it does look squished as it looks fast standing still and more aerodynamic.

 

Wow. You are arguing the same point that I am making. Did you even read the entire post I made? Better yet understand it? Solid limited slip rear axles(not axles but differentials), true dual exhaust are nothing specific to mustangs. This is about styling and heritage. Crown vics have V8s, true dual exhaust and limited slip diffs..so it has the basics of the mustang, right? The "basics" of being a mustang not only includes the drivetrain, but maybe more importantly, includes it's styling based on it's heritage. Your missing the point.

 

 

no pissing match here, but you are wrong (and right) ... I used to race a 86 Mustang with my 85 1/2 SVO and beat him every time, plus I had more on the top end (I personally saw 137 but ran out of road) and yes, they were more expensive and they debuted at a time when the 5.0 was making a comeback ... which meant very few were willing to pony up. They were about 5 years late getting to market and it sealed their fate. The SVO was an incredible car ... if you ever get the chance, take one for a spin.

 

So the fact that the only reason mustangs continue to be sold is that there is a six cylinder, single exhaust, open diff. sales horse is not mustang??? (not directed at your sscobra, it was just the last post that had V8 being one of the primary characteristics of a mustang, and dont get me wrong i love the V8, but i think it has less to do with what makes the mustang a sales success).

 

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Oh yeah, dont forget the engine bay is boring.

LOL, I'm a Christian and Even I think He Needs Jesus to Fix Him, Especially His Eye Sight, if He Thinks the New Mustang Looks Like a Celica.

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Front looks Japanese squinting, rear looks like a Celica! This new Mustang is not of the legendary line, more of the Mustang 2 of the mid seventies.

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But Then Again Wasn't That Just a Copy of This?

 

That was kinda part of my point. I know that the sale of v6 stangs allow us to have the v8 stangs, because of CAFE and EPA regulations, etc. However, (just my opinion)I will never be convenced that the mustang would have the following it has today because of v6 stangs. The heritage and allure created over the generations is of powerful, aggresive, heart-pounding V8 mustangs. I would argue that if it wasn't for v8 mustang you would not have v6 mustangs(I am not refering to the original cars but the legacy as a whole). Not trying to offend anyone. In all my years of modding mustangs, I have never heard anyone bragging about them or someone they know having a v6(I have seen some modded 6s with turbos and such). The v6 is a fix for consumers who want a piece of the mustang legend but don't want to pay the price(for whatever reason). It's rare to see someone ditching a V8 and swapping in a 4banger or v6. It's kinda like the little brother that always wants to be as cool as his big brother.

 

I understand your statements. But beyond EPA and CAFE, the 6s (originally not V but I) are the sales platform. the 6s outsell the 8s and make the mustang production profitable. A great example is chryslers mind change in the Challenger. At first no 6 would be offered but it would not have been profitable without the 6 so the 3.5 was added to the line up. I think unless something is done in the future that you will see many more people ditch the V8 for fours and sixes. There will always be enthusiasts who will buy the eight, for sure. but Joe and Judy Blow may not care about 0-60, 1/4mi, G's, slalom.

Does anyone have the sales figures based on engine? I know in recent decades the V6 has outsold the V8s but I was wondering about the old I6 in the original mustangs??Anyone?

 

That's why I stated that I wasn't talking about the early models. It's kinda like buying a mustang just to say I have a mustang. I do understand your point. Also, I really don't think the mustang would be here today if they all came with 4 bangers and 6 cylinders.

 

not sure how you can refer to the legacy as a whole without referring to the orginal cars, but OK. I understand. Historically the mustang would not have lasted with a 4 and a 6. The sixties did not allow for that. the mustang would not have sold 1,000,000 in the first 18 months with a 4 and a 6. however, i believe that a v6 only mustang would have a better chance today then a v8 only. Luck for us this is not the case yet.

But that brings me to a concern of mine. I was being a devils advocate today and happened to be on Chevy's site (don't throw the bottles filled with urin yet), but I noticed GM is advertising the camaro with a 300hp V6 and that the camaro starts at $22K. (now nowhere does it say that the 22K price is for the 300hp v6, but it does not list another less powerful option). If indeed you can buy a camaro as it portrays (ie a 300hp V6 for 22K) then that is going to swamp the mustang's sales horse, as the 2010 is priced just under 21K and has a measly 210hp. What will that do to overall mustang development. Personally if it were me in the market for a v6 sports coupe I would have to go with the camaro on shear bang for buck.

Anybody have the details on this???

 

I really like the painted uprights.