Anyone serttle for an EB
1/20/15, 07:09 PM
#21
A Man Just Needs Some....
Yeah mine was a SVT also. My manhood has nothing to do with loving American muscle cars and the heritage of a truly iconic nameplate. 8 American cylinders rumbling. I'm not trolling but answering a thread with my opinion. If your feelings get hurt, get yourself some new feelings.
1/20/15, 07:09 PM
#22
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Admittedly these were fairly decent numbers by the EB. And I agree with what you said before. The only reason the 3.55 V8 "lost" was because the driver of that car wasn't ready to launch.
Also the Coyotes are being held back by the tires. I break my tires loose in 1st and 2nd by the time I hit 5000rpm in my Coyote if the temps are under 65F and I try to go WOT. Too much power for the tires. I think the EB has a better balance of power to tire grip. In cool weather off the line I can see this being a driver's race. The Coyote driver has to scale it back to 75% in 1st and 85% in 2nd to maintain grip.
Also the Coyotes are being held back by the tires. I break my tires loose in 1st and 2nd by the time I hit 5000rpm in my Coyote if the temps are under 65F and I try to go WOT. Too much power for the tires. I think the EB has a better balance of power to tire grip. In cool weather off the line I can see this being a driver's race. The Coyote driver has to scale it back to 75% in 1st and 85% in 2nd to maintain grip.
Some people have argued the lesser weight of the EB makes it more fun to throw in corners, but realistically I drove all 3 - V6, EB and GT. The EB and GT felt similar when configured the same (not powerwise, but handling). The GT was definitely heavier, but it's not like the EB is light. The EB with PP I enjoyed more than a stock GT, but that'd be fixed with either a GT performance pack or your own aftermarket suspension anyway.
There's no doubt the GT is awesome and I did think about it. But, I decided to see what the Turbo could do this go 'round.
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1/20/15, 07:18 PM
#23
A Man Just Needs Some....
You're absolutely insane. For someone that has as many posts as you do, I can only assume you just comment to comment, not having anything really to say. You've yet to have a single post in this thread that isn't either misleading or downright false. Congrats, that takes real effort. Do research and come back so your "feelings aren't hurt" when you've yet to be right. A GT in all configurations and spec'd the same start at 7K more than an EB. Just because you don't have facts or reality on your side doesn't mean you can't keep arguing, I suppose.
1/20/15, 07:20 PM
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Agreed with all of that. I don't think anyone thinks a stock EB vs. a stock GT is going to be a contest. Around town in "regular" driving, a majority of people probably won't notice as much a difference.
Some people have argued the lesser weight of the EB makes it more fun to throw in corners, but realistically I drove all 3 - V6, EB and GT. The EB and GT felt similar when configured the same (not powerwise, but handling). The GT was definitely heavier, but it's not like the EB is light. The EB with PP I enjoyed more than a stock GT, but that'd be fixed with either a GT performance pack or your own aftermarket suspension anyway.
There's no doubt the GT is awesome and I did think about it. But, I decided to see what the Turbo could do this go 'round.
Some people have argued the lesser weight of the EB makes it more fun to throw in corners, but realistically I drove all 3 - V6, EB and GT. The EB and GT felt similar when configured the same (not powerwise, but handling). The GT was definitely heavier, but it's not like the EB is light. The EB with PP I enjoyed more than a stock GT, but that'd be fixed with either a GT performance pack or your own aftermarket suspension anyway.
There's no doubt the GT is awesome and I did think about it. But, I decided to see what the Turbo could do this go 'round.
I have a lot respect for what Ford did with the EB, and I really like the new TT V6s. Looks like Ford is going that route more towards the future. I would certainly miss the sound of the V8 though.The 2.3L definitely has potential yet to be unlocked. I like to track my car so for me the V8 was the only logical choice. It's cheaper to fix suspension damping than add 100+ HP and TQ.
1/20/15, 07:22 PM
#25
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$7k is your argument. If you couldn't or didn't care to swing the $7k, you again settled. For less cylinders and less power. For less potential with upgrades. Still haven't heard the "multitude" of reasons you went with the EB. Other than $7k. There are many great reasons to go with the EB over the GT but simply stated, superior performance is not one of them. Even simpler terms, a GT will beat your EB in everything but a fuel mileage contest and $7k. This is about as straight up as it gets.
Let's see, I've posted many times why I chose an EB in this thread and elsewhere in this very forum, but you're only here to argue and troll. You can go somewhere else if you want to continue trolling. It's really your choice.
1/20/15, 07:26 PM
#26
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Oh so you agree it's a 7K difference now and not the same price? What happened? Reality creep in? Let's see, I've posted many times why I chose an EB in this thread and elsewhere in this very forum, but you're only here to argue and troll. You can go somewhere else if you want to continue trolling. It's really your choice.
1/20/15, 07:28 PM
#27
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I have a lot respect for what Ford did with the EB, and I really like the new TT V6s. Looks like Ford is going that route more towards the future. I would certainly miss the sound of the V8 though.The 2.3L definitely has potential yet to be unlocked. I like to track my car so for me the V8 was the only logical choice. It's cheaper to fix suspension damping than add 100+ HP and TQ.
The thing I *do* miss is the V8 rumble. That's been the only thing I had to get used to, since my priors have been V8's, and the last two had a Borla catbacks. I truly hope Ford doesn't ditch the V8.
I'm still waiting to see what the vendors ultimately come out with for the EB. What's been done by some of the shops already after just a few months has been pretty impressive.
1/20/15, 07:34 PM
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Yeah mine was a SVT also. My manhood has nothing to do with loving American muscle cars and the heritage of a truly iconic nameplate. 8 American cylinders rumbling. I'm not trolling but answering a thread with my opinion. If your feelings get hurt, get yourself some new feelings.
1/20/15, 07:37 PM
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Yup, agreed on all counts.
The thing I *do* miss is the V8 rumble. That's been the only thing I had to get used to, since my priors have been V8's, and the last two had a Borla catbacks. I truly hope Ford doesn't ditch the V8.
I'm still waiting to see what the vendors ultimately come out with for the EB. What's been done by some of the shops already after just a few months has been pretty impressive.
The thing I *do* miss is the V8 rumble. That's been the only thing I had to get used to, since my priors have been V8's, and the last two had a Borla catbacks. I truly hope Ford doesn't ditch the V8.
I'm still waiting to see what the vendors ultimately come out with for the EB. What's been done by some of the shops already after just a few months has been pretty impressive.
And as far as tuning the EB goes, at least you don't have to worry about the infamous #8 cylinder failure with the EB cars. I'd keep an eye on #4
1/20/15, 07:37 PM
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The whole thread was obviously started with the intent of starting arguments among the posters here from the title right on down. I'm down for locking the thread before it gets any worse.
1/20/15, 07:38 PM
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Yeah mine was a SVT also. My manhood has nothing to do with loving American muscle cars and [B]the heritage of a truly iconic [/B]nameplate. 8 American cylinders rumbling. I'm not trolling but answering a thread with my opinion. If your feelings get hurt, get yourself some new feelings.
The Mustang has evolved over the years into the car it is today. Good years and a few bad years, we won't discuss. The EB is a further evolution of that car.
As for settling..I went looking for the EB, as I had a '13 SHO with the twin turbo EcoBoost and loved it.
I didn't want the GT since I don't race, I don't tune and I drive 99% on the Interstate or two lanes in the hills. Performance is fine for a daily driver, plenty of power, in Normal mode. Switch it to Sport mode and it becomes another car. And, it returns 32-35 mpg cruising at 75. Admittedly, Sport mode lowers the mpg to around 26-30, but well worth it in the mountains.
It really doesn't matter what model you drive or why you drive it as long as you enjoy it.
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1/20/15, 07:53 PM
#32
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I've followed this thread from its conception. No you haven't given any reasons why you went with the EB except $7k which realistically is only about $5k since the dealers aren't dealing on the EB like they will on the GT. (Markup) You got your butt hurt after the initial post. All downhill since then. Lol
You've yet to actually state anything truthful, but rather just insult and argue. My feelings were never hurt, but the thread obviously was begun to start an argument which you wanted to continue. If you can go back and prove any of these points you posted, then I'll be most impressed:
- "Fuel Economy"
- "You will not win any races or competitions with your ecoboost"
- "for the same sticker price"
- "The EB and GT are about the same price."
- "Honestly if I was a turbo4 fan. There's better options. That Evo is one bad little vehicle" (Hint: It's either the same or slower stock for stock than an EB, and it cost more than a base GT)
- "which realistically is only about $5k since the dealers aren't dealing on the EB like they will on the GT"
I understand you're upset that Ford put a Turbo 4 in the Mustang, but when all of your arguments are hyperbolic or not true, and then want to use the argument "I'm hurt", or "butt hurt", or some variation of upset it really just makes you look silly. The only thing "hurting" is reasoning.
I'm also sorry sorry you don't see the potential in the EB motors, but there are better ways to argue (e.g. with facts).
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1/20/15, 07:55 PM
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1/20/15, 08:13 PM
#34
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EB: Potential, cost, try something new. Dollar for Dollar value (including mods). You've yet to actually state anything truthful, but rather just insult and argue. My feelings were never hurt, but the thread obviously was begun to start an argument which you wanted to continue. If you can go back and prove any of these points you posted, then I'll be most impressed:[*]"Fuel Economy"[*]"You will not win any races or competitions with your ecoboost"[*]"for the same sticker price"[*]"The EB and GT are about the same price."[*]"Honestly if I was a turbo4 fan. There's better options. That Evo is one bad little vehicle" (Hint: It's either the same or slower stock for stock than an EB, and it cost more than a base GT)[*]"which realistically is only about $5k since the dealers aren't dealing on the EB like they will on the GT" I understand you're upset that Ford put a Turbo 4 in the Mustang, but when all of your arguments are hyperbolic or not true, and then want to use the argument "I'm hurt", or "butt hurt", or some variation of upset it really just makes you look silly. The only thing "hurting" is reasoning. I'm also sorry sorry you don't see the potential in the EB motors, but there are better ways to argue (e.g. with facts).
1/20/15, 08:17 PM
#35
Yep, definitely needs to be locked.
Hey Jeff, I bought my Mustang just because I wanted a chrome horse, didn't you?
PS, there is not a
anywhere on late model Mustangs and a real Mustang enthusiast would know that. lmao.
Hey Jeff, I bought my Mustang just because I wanted a chrome horse, didn't you?
PS, there is not a
anywhere on late model Mustangs and a real Mustang enthusiast would know that. lmao.
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1/20/15, 08:20 PM
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