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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 11:48 AM
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Ford Racing Adjustable Suspension

I added the Ford Racing Adjustable Suspension M-FR3A-MGTAA and had it done by the dealer 5 days after I bought it. It really made a big difference. I got to drive it before and after the upgrade. I was a little pricey, $2100 ($1850 on internet) + $1000 installation, but it will be covered under the 3 year warranty. There is almost no dive now on hard stops, it corners almost completely flat. It is on the performance setting and I can adjust it to firmest Track setting. But the Ford dealer suggested don't set it on Track when it is raining.

BTW. I am selling the Track Pack that came off of it (110 miles) on Craigslist in Houston. I will come off of the price.

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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 08:16 PM
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Awesome, glad you like it and good feedback! That is a pricey suspension setup, but having it warrantied is nice
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by zbrewha863
Awesome, glad you like it and good feedback! That is a pricey suspension setup, but having it warrantied is nice
Yes, the suspension is really easy, I have replaced many struts in cars, and this one was already assembled, no spring compressor required, but I wanted the warranty and the parts were only $300 cheaper on the internet. Plus I have not done the back springs before.
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 08:10 PM
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Wow man. You wasted about 900 bucks for a 3 year warranty. I can tell you that if you have issues with those parts, itll be well after 3 years.
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 08:40 PM
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Wow man. You wasted about 900 bucks for a 3 year warranty. I can tell you that if you have issues with those parts, itll be well after 3 years.
I think it's a bit rude to tell someone they wasted their money. The piece of mind he has may be well worth 900 dollars. Some dealers will say that not only the parts changed but any part connected to the aftermarket part.

An example for me was I changed my entire suspension. I expect to void the warranty of the parts I changed. The dealership said it would void my control arms, entire braking system, and engine mounts ( they said the extra bounce would wear them out. ) needless to say, I found another dealer.

My dealer is fine with modded cars but what if I move and the local dealers aren't as good with modded cars? The op won't have that problem. I am not saying I would do what the op did. I'm saying I understand the thinking. I don't understand the value of you insulting the op. It serves no purpose.
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 10:45 PM
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I think it's a bit rude to tell someone they wasted their money. The piece of mind he has may be well worth 900 dollars. Some dealers will say that not only the parts changed but any part connected to the aftermarket part.

An example for me was I changed my entire suspension. I expect to void the warranty of the parts I changed. The dealership said it would void my control arms, entire braking system, and engine mounts ( they said the extra bounce would wear them out. ) needless to say, I found another dealer.

My dealer is fine with modded cars but what if I move and the local dealers aren't as good with modded cars? The op won't have that problem. I am not saying I would do what the op did. I'm saying I understand the thinking. I don't understand the value of you insulting the op. It serves no purpose.
Thanks for your feedback. I however don't t think its rude. How many issues do you think are going to pop up in 3 years that could be blamed on his suspension? Front lower control arm problems? Ive had them replaced 3 times at 3 different dealers with without them giving me crap about suspension. Its a waste of money period.

I can understand having them do a super charger install if they will warranty it, because a new engine would have to be approved by Ford. A new engine mount or lca would not.

I didnt insult the op. I told him that he wasted 900 and I stated why. It would be the same as me telling you that you wasted money on adjustable konis when your never going to need the adjustability. In the end, you know it's true, but someone else telling you is offensive? Hmm...
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 12:30 AM
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[QUOTE="mikeyt03;6705863"] Thanks for your feedback. I however don't t think its rude. How many issues do you think are going to pop up in 3 years that could be blamed on his suspension? Front lower control arm problems? Ive had them replaced 3 times at 3 different dealers with without them giving me crap about suspension. Its a waste of money period. I can understand having them do a super charger install if they will warranty it, because a new engine would have to be approved by Ford. A new engine mount or lca would not. I didnt insult the op. I told him that he wasted 900 and I stated why. It would be the same as me telling you that you wasted money on adjustable konis when your never going to need the adjustability. In the end, you know it's true, but someone else telling you is offensive? Hmm...[/QUOTE

Your presumption that you know what is a waste of someone else's money is what is offensive. Whether we are talking about my suspension or the op. I think people should buy what brings them joy and in a way that brings them comfort. It's a sad that you gain joy from mocking others.
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeyt03
Thanks for your feedback. I however don't t think its rude. How many issues do you think are going to pop up in 3 years that could be blamed on his suspension? Front lower control arm problems? Ive had them replaced 3 times at 3 different dealers with without them giving me crap about suspension. Its a waste of money period.

I can understand having them do a super charger install if they will warranty it, because a new engine would have to be approved by Ford. A new engine mount or lca would not.

I didnt insult the op. I told him that he wasted 900 and I stated why. It would be the same as me telling you that you wasted money on adjustable konis when your never going to need the adjustability. In the end, you know it's true, but someone else telling you is offensive? Hmm...
The way you said it was douchy. It's one of those things that you would say on the internet, but not in real life. When you come across yourself saying something like that, it's usually best to just not say it at all.
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 10:00 PM
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The way you said it was douchy. It's one of those things that you would say on the internet, but not in real life. When you come across yourself saying something like that, it's usually best to just not say it at all.
See thats the thing...I would say the same thing in person. Your assuming im saying it like a jerk but im not. If my friend did what this guy did, I would express my opinion the same way face to face. Im not a jerk, so I would express it in a tasteful manner. And I would expect my friends to do the same. In the end an opinion is only an opinion.
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 10:19 PM
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If you dont want feedback...dont post on public forums. The op seems to understand that just fine. You see... my perception of wasting money is just that...clearly the op has a different mind set and thats ok. I never said he was wrong or stupid. I stated what my opinion was backed up with why I felt that way. It's not rude to disagree. I can see why you think its rude, its because you might fit into a quadrant of people who dont value feedback unless its praise, and aviod conflict at all cost. Thats all ok too... every individual is different and we all have our opinions. How we react to those opinions defines our communication skills and our comminication skills define how we adapt to various social settings. I totally get it.
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 12:01 AM
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I don't think Mikeyt03 was in the wrong at all. What he said is no different than anyone telling you a part or something is not worth it and once again we have gotten away from the OPs original post. This is not helping him or good feedback at all.
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 10:05 AM
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Wow man. You wasted about 900 bucks for a 3 year warranty. I can tell you that if you have issues with those parts, itll be well after 3 years.
I checked the internet and the price from FordRacingParts.com was $1895 only $300 cheaper then the Ford Dealer. I know could have installed them myself(I have many times in other cars), and these are all pre-assembled, but I have not dropped a rear end. I know maybe something like JRZ would be better, but when it is out of warranty, I can get even better ones. That's the good thing about the Mustang, very upgradeable. Even the 500+ hp crate motor from FR and the Tremec T56 can be in the future. So it is all relative.

I'm really not sure of the $900 math just yet?

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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeyt03
Thanks for your feedback. I however don't t think its rude. How many issues do you think are going to pop up in 3 years that could be blamed on his suspension? Front lower control arm problems? Ive had them replaced 3 times at 3 different dealers with without them giving me crap about suspension. Its a waste of money period. I can understand having them do a super charger install if they will warranty it, because a new engine would have to be approved by Ford. A new engine mount or lca would not. I didnt insult the op. I told him that he wasted 900 and I stated why. It would be the same as me telling you that you wasted money on adjustable konis when your never going to need the adjustability. In the end, you know it's true, but someone else telling you is offensive? Hmm...[/QUOTE

Your presumption that you know what is a waste of someone else's money is what is offensive. Whether we are talking about my suspension or the op. I think people should buy what brings them joy and in a way that brings them comfort. It's a sad that you gain joy from mocking others.
You saying about what brings "joy" or fun to life I think nailed it. I bought a new 2012 M3 and sold it in April. It was twice the price as the mustang. But it seemed to have problems, so I got rid of it. I was not having any joy with it. I didnt trust it. People adding things to our cars are for one purpose only, to make us happy. Some people have more money then others and that's fine. We have to stick with our budget. Some people take more chances(warranties, no warranty, higher quality, low quality) then others and it usually stems around money. Warranties is just another way to say insurance...and we all have insurance for car, health, house, etc...so to say it is a waste of money....Mmmmm maybe, maybe not. It is all relative

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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 10:58 AM
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I checked the internet and the price from FordRacingParts.com was $1895 only $300 cheaper then the Ford Dealer. I know could have installed them myself(I have many times in other cars), and these are all pre-assembled, but I have not dropped a rear end. I know maybe something like JRZ would be better, but when it is out of warranty, I can get even better ones. That's the good thing about the Mustang, very upgradeable. Even the 500+ hp crate motor from FR and the Tremec T56 can be in the future. So it is all relative.

I'm really not sure of the $900 math just yet?

Dean

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The 1000 installation at the dealership is about 600 too much which brings the total to 900. Its comes pre assembled and its a direct and easy swap. Your install at a place like steeda or really any performance shop would have been around 400-500.

In the end its your decision. And ive made plenty of decisions that cost me some cash when it didnt have to. Ironically ive also owned an M3. I had a 2010 and it had issues as well. I also had a 11 gt500 which ended up not making me happy. So I took a small loss on it and traded it in. It was a waste of money for sure.
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 01:42 PM
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The 1000 installation at the dealership is about 600 too much which brings the total to 900. Its comes pre assembled and its a direct and easy swap. Your install at a place like steeda or really any performance shop would have been around 400-500.

In the end its your decision. And ive made plenty of decisions that cost me some cash when it didnt have to. Ironically ive also owned an M3. I had a 2010 and it had issues as well. I also had a 11 gt500 which ended up not making me happy. So I took a small loss on it and traded it in. It was a waste of money for sure.
I hear ya, but if i would have done it myself, then if i screwed up something, then they would not fix it and just blamed me...been there, done that. I know the standard installation for 1 strut at a shop is $100(call any shop), so times 4 is $400, plus the anti roll bars and pan hard rod, then they did an alignment. so actually, $1000 is not too bad. Plus i get a warranty for work, if i do it, i get nothing. I have timed myself on 4 wheel strut installation, 70 minutes for the first one,(getting tools out and laid out), 2nd one 40 minutes(these are fronts), then 30 minutes apiece for the back ones. Say, 3.5 hours just for struts, when I could be working out of my house for $75 an hour...i just lost money and I still have not installed the roll bars...

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Old Oct 28, 2013 | 04:59 PM
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Glad you like the suspension setup, that's all that matters. I was thinking about simply lowering mine, however I am now leaning more towards replacing everything for the complete package.

Happy trails.
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Old Oct 28, 2013 | 10:09 PM
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I hear ya, but if i would have done it myself, then if i screwed up something, then they would not fix it and just blamed me...been there, done that. I know the standard installation for 1 strut at a shop is $100(call any shop), so times 4 is $400, plus the anti roll bars and pan hard rod, then they did an alignment. so actually, $1000 is not too bad. Plus i get a warranty for work, if i do it, i get nothing. I have timed myself on 4 wheel strut installation, 70 minutes for the first one,(getting tools out and laid out), 2nd one 40 minutes(these are fronts), then 30 minutes apiece for the back ones. Say, 3.5 hours just for struts, when I could be working out of my house for $75 an hour...i just lost money and I still have not installed the roll bars...
yeah, I'll go ahead and jump on the jerk comment as well.
It's like insurance. I will NOT get in a wreck, I will NOT need every single option my insurance company will give me, I do NOT need to drop my deductible to $100 vs $1,000, I do NOT need such high property insurance coverage...BUT I want it! I pay more per month for piece of mind.

...Same reason why I have the dealer do my oil changes...
(That and to check if anything else looks out of the ordinary)

Having the dealer do something for you is going to cost you some money. However, they'll also warranty their work & the product.
Yeah, you WILL almost always save money by doing something yourself but in the end, if ANYTHING breaks, its YOU who has to fix it...
...but not when the dealer installs it!

Having an opinion is okay. Voicing it is okay. Getting feedback is okay.
Just like you told him that he wasted HIS? money...
...Your comment has NOTHING to do with the purpose of this thread.

^^My opinion.

Ruby Tuesday,
Congrats on the upgrade! I think there's something cool about having Ford Racing upgrades, even if they are more expensive. If Ford made as good a tune as Bama or Steeda, I'd probably go with it, even if it did cost more. (Especially if they offered a warranty)
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I had the dealer install my FRPP handling pack (non-adjustable). I bought it from them to get the full warranty. The car had 4 miles on it when it was installed

Why?

There are threads here complaining about suspension NVH issues. It's nice to know that if any component develops an issue, I am comfortable knowing that it's on Ford to resolve it.

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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ustabawannab
I had the dealer install my FRPP handling pack (non-adjustable). I bought it from them to get the full warranty. The car had 4 miles on it when it was installed Why? There are threads here complaining about suspension NVH issues. It's nice to know that if any component develops an issue, I am comfortable knowing that it's on Ford to resolve it.
I've heard nothing but good things about this set up. I was very close to buying it. I think the difference in the high quality suspension pieces is so close. I don't know why but having Ford Racing parts just seems cooler. Congrats on yours and the ops purchase.
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 02:40 PM
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I've heard nothing but good things about this set up. I was very close to buying it. I think the difference in the high quality suspension pieces is so close. I don't know why but having Ford Racing parts just seems cooler. Congrats on yours and the ops purchase.
I really don't think they're really that pricey, especially if you do your own install. My dealer charged me $750 for the install, alignment and they included the FRPP Sport Axleback muffler install.

The Handling Pack includes extras like a Strut Tower Brace, GT500 Top Strut mounts, Jounce Stops, all new fasteners ...etc.

Look at what my system included ...

Handling Pack Includes:
Struts/Shocks M-18000-A
Lowering Springs M-5300-N
Jounce Stops M-5570-A
Sway Bars M-5490-C
Strut Mounts M-18183-C -(GT500)
Strut Tower Brace M-20201-F


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