~ Chassis Stiffening
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There's always room for improvement. Griggs knows their stuff but also charge a small fortune for their parts.
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Well that is what I was saying if you make the chasis too stiff it won't perform well on a bumpy road. That is only good for a very smooth track but if you are bumping around like on the street the car can not grip properly or turn or do anything. Stiffer is not always better.
Last edited by 13shelby; Nov 19, 2012 at 01:38 PM.
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Now this I like. See here you have this big three sided tube and adding that Hotchkis x brace closes the bottom making it a full four sided tube. This will make a significant stiffening of the front around the firewall. They need to make it extend all the way back to the rear end.
We offer Subframe connectors that will go well with the X brace. It goes from front to back and really helps stiffen the underside of the vehicle.
http://www.hotchkis.net/20052011-for...onnectors.html
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Originally Posted by 13shelby
Well that is what I was saying if you make the chasis too stiff it won't perform wheel on a bumpy road. That is only good for a very smooth track but if you are bumping around like on the street the car can not grip properly or turn or do anything. Stiffer is not always better.
Just stop.
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???? Are you serious????
Man you really don't understand suspensions then ok I'm out.
Take a look at this video though
Its a jay leno vid and the bugatti engineers explain that they actually softened the springs on the vittesse and the chasis so that it would handle better because it was so stiff it couldn't grip the road.
But I guess people at bugatti are stupid too
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We offer Subframe connectors that will go well with the X brace. It goes from front to back and really helps stiffen the underside of the vehicle.
http://www.hotchkis.net/20052011-for...onnectors.html
http://www.hotchkis.net/20052011-for...onnectors.html
can you support the weight of the car by using these as jacking rails!?
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Here is a link to the install instructions
http://www.hotchkis.net/_uploaded_fi...ns5219file.pdf
Here are pictures of the sub frame connectors installed.
http://www.hotchkis.net/_uploaded_fi...ns5219file.pdf
Here are pictures of the sub frame connectors installed.
Last edited by GrabberBlue310; Nov 20, 2012 at 12:25 PM.
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Does the X Brace affect the transmissions ability to get cool air? My trans runs hot with heat emanating through the center console after some spirited driving. It looks like the X Brace may deflect air that would otherwise hit the cooling fins.
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That doesn't sound too right, unless you live in a very hot place. I have driven my car hard and haven't noticed any heat emanating from the center console.
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???? Are you serious????
Man you really don't understand suspensions then ok I'm out.
Take a look at this video though Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Grand Sport Vitesse - Jay Leno's Garage - YouTube
Its a jay leno vid and the bugatti engineers explain that they actually softened the springs on the vittesse and the chasis so that it would handle better because it was so stiff it couldn't grip the road.
But I guess people at bugatti are stupid too
Man you really don't understand suspensions then ok I'm out.
Take a look at this video though Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Grand Sport Vitesse - Jay Leno's Garage - YouTube
Its a jay leno vid and the bugatti engineers explain that they actually softened the springs on the vittesse and the chasis so that it would handle better because it was so stiff it couldn't grip the road.
But I guess people at bugatti are stupid too
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The X Brace does not have any effect on cooling. There is enough air flow that it wont hurt it.
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Originally Posted by traxiii
They softened the springs, not the chassis. You want the suspension absorbing the bumps and such, not the chassis flexing. A solid, stiff chassis means you can soften up the suspension and have a better handling car, with s more comfortable ride.
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Will these parts fit on a 2013 V6 Mustang? I see nothing on your website about that.
Oh, and I would also like to know if these rails could double as jacking rails.
Oh, and I would also like to know if these rails could double as jacking rails.
Last edited by V6 Driver; Nov 27, 2012 at 11:38 AM.