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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 05:34 PM
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How does the ride height look to you?
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 06:00 PM
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nice in front but like an offroader in the rear
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006stiguy
5. I am also interested in knowing what HASN'T been discussed yet. ..ride height...looks like an offroader
Cringing. I knew this would be an issue. C'mon Ford it's not an F-150. Was hoping I wouldn't be replacing a bunch of this suspension, but you need to answer question #4 before we can know for sure.
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006stiguy
nice in front but like an offroader in the rear
Can it be as simple as some lowering springs in the rear? With adj coilovers all around and slammed my GT500 is a totally different animal, but it rides like a go-kart. Not to mention the poly bushings and heim joints make lots of funny noises (squeaks/creaks). Ford won't build a street car that way I guess.
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cloud9
With adj coilovers all around and slammed my GT500 is a totally different animal, but it rides like a go-kart. Not to mention the poly bushings and heim joints make lots of funny noises (squeaks/creaks). Ford won't build a street car that way I guess.
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by s197ford
Nope.
Got any thoughts on the Boss ride height? What would you do to your Boss?
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 07:03 PM
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by cloud9
Can it be as simple as some lowering springs in the rear? With adj coilovers all around and slammed my GT500 is a totally different animal, but it rides like a go-kart. Not to mention the poly bushings and heim joints make lots of funny noises (squeaks/creaks). Ford won't build a street car that way I guess.
I put 1.1 inch lower springs in the rear only of my 06. Kept the front stock. Made a big difference in the rake of the car as I had installed 1" taller tires. Handling was much better also. I wouldn't be afraid to just change the rear coils.
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006mach1
I put 1.1 inch lower springs in the rear only of my 06. Kept the front stock. Made a big difference in the rake of the car as I had installed 1" taller tires. Handling was much better also. I wouldn't be afraid to just change the rear coils.
Steeda sports all around.
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 07:21 PM
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It would be nice to lower the rear about a 1" without significantly changing the spring rate.

I guessing you can't lower it two much and still have it function well. Even the 302R sit a few inches above the tires.



Must be a live axle thing.
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MJockey
It would be nice to lower the rear about a 1" without significantly changing the spring rate.

I guessing you can't lower it two much and still have it function well. Even the 302R sit a few inches above the tires.
The 302R looks about the same height as my GT500. You're actually getting pretty close to the bumpstops at that point.
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006stiguy
nice in front but like an offroader in the rear
It's interesting I see this comment from folks. I guess it is what one is used to in terms of ride height from other cars that serve as the basis for comparison.

When I compared the ride height of my 2010 GT to my previous 2000 GT, there was a noticeable difference between the 2 in stock form (being different platforms, of course).

I look at the rear ride height of the 2010+ GTs and the Boss and think they are definitely lower and look more sporting. When I look at the wheel well gaps in the rear, I definitely don't think "offroader".

One car that I use for gap comparison is the BMW 3 Series cars. To me, that is one vehicle that has a "tightened up" look.

I presume the Ford engineers balance not only management of the live axle movement, but also stance (design aesthetics), NVH parameters, centering of the axle, and enough height to avoid bottoming out on the road.

I do think a 1" drop would prove appealing visually, but given the engineering that went into setting the handling with the adjustable suspension, I am wondering if it would be worth it to then have to adjust the balance designed in to that set-up.

I guess this is what makes the aftermarket world go round :-)

PS - I think the wheel gap is nicely set in the '11 GT500 with the SVT performance package.
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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sportline rear first see how it sets then i am sure i will put the fronts on soon after got to stop that brake dive and get that spoiler closer to the ground . the ride will be harsh but worth it
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
It's interesting I see this comment from folks. I guess it is what one is used to in terms of ride height from other cars that serve as the basis for comparison.

When I compared the ride height of my 2010 GT to my previous 2000 GT, there was a noticeable difference between the 2 in stock form (being different platforms, of course).

I look at the rear ride height of the 2010+ GTs and the Boss and think they are definitely lower and look more sporting. When I look at the wheel well gaps in the rear, I definitely don't think "offroader".

One car that I use for gap comparison is the BMW 3 Series cars. To me, that is one vehicle that has a "tightened up" look.

I presume the Ford engineers balance not only management of the live axle movement, but also stance (design aesthetics), NVH parameters, centering of the axle, and enough height to avoid bottoming out on the road.

I do think a 1" drop would prove appealing visually, but given the engineering that went into setting the handling with the adjustable suspension, I am wondering if it would be worth it to then have to adjust the balance designed in to that set-up.

I guess this is what makes the aftermarket world go round :-)

PS - I think the wheel gap is nicely set in the '11 GT500 with the SVT performance package.
I swear my 99' GT sat lower in the rear...who knows??? Anyway after all the hundreds of hours that the engineers put into the suspesion i won't be changing anything suspension wise. But my previous car was a JRZ equipped super high spring rate STi so to me the ride is downright luxurious. I do feel that slightly more rear bar/lower ride height would increase the steering response to a level i would deem perfect! and I am very picky btw...it just feels like just off center the steering has a pause while the rear takes a set...and them wham! It's now ready to go!! I only have 160 miles on her so i will get used to it. Again...i wanted a more go cart like/race ride, but I know this car has to appeal to the vast majority of people who may DD this car. The Subie off the showroom floor has a much tighter/raw feel from the factory...but i love the Boss!!!
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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 2006stiguy
I swear my 99' GT sat lower in the rear...who knows??? Anyway after all the hundreds of hours that the engineers put into the suspesion i won't be changing anything suspension wise. But my previous car was a JRZ equipped super high spring rate STi so to me the ride is downright luxurious. I do feel that slightly more rear bar/lower ride height would increase the steering response to a level i would deem perfect! and I am very picky btw...it just feels like just off center the steering has a pause while the rear takes a set...and them wham! It's now ready to go!! I only have 160 miles on her so i will get used to it. Again...i wanted a more go cart like/race ride, but I know this car has to appeal to the vast majority of people who may DD this car. The Subie off the showroom floor has a much tighter/raw feel from the factory...but i love the Boss!!!
How's the clutch and shift feel compared to the STI? I have an STI now and it has been my favorite car so far.I do agree, the STI has a very "racecar" feel to it. I hope I don't regret getting rid of it for a BOSS, but I'm ready for an American muscle car.
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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 2006stiguy
I swear my 99' GT sat lower in the rear...who knows???
The wheel gaps were appeared larger in stock form to me. I never measured them, but I did have friends who were not car people ask me why my car was jacked up so high :-)


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Anyway after all the hundreds of hours that the engineers put into the suspesion i won't be changing anything suspension wise.
I think it will be good to see what the stock configuration does in performance situations, especially the road course, before making changes.

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But my previous car was a JRZ equipped super high spring rate STi so to me the ride is downright luxurious.
No doubts...this car's platform is larger and more luxurious to me as compared to the FOX-4 chassis of the SN-95s.

Originally Posted by 2006stiguy
I do feel that slightly more rear bar/lower ride height would increase the steering response to a level i would deem perfect! and I am very picky btw...it just feels like just off center the steering has a pause while the rear takes a set...and them wham! It's now ready to go!! I only have 160 miles on her so i will get used to it.
Have you tried the variable steering settings?

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Again...i wanted a more go cart like/race ride, but I know this car has to appeal to the vast majority of people who may DD this car. The Subie off the showroom floor has a much tighter/raw feel from the factory...but i love the Boss!!!
Yes, this car is no doubt going to feel less go-kart like, especially compared to something like an STi. When I've driven Nissan 350Zs, for example, to me, they felt more "racy", and I think a lot of that had to do with the spring rates and the steering response, as well as the smaller platform (of course, it is a 2-seater).

Enjoy the Boss!
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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 07:56 AM
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Steeda sports all around.
+1 on that.
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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
I think it will be good to see what the stock configuration does in performance situations, especially the road course, before making changes.
This.
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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 09:24 AM
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darty = oh man handles like a race car

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Old Mar 18, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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So you lucky dogs that got your Boss already, when you remove the attenuatetors disks, do you get any drone at cruising speeds? I know there very little "cruising" go on, but just curious.
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