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Old 7/4/11, 11:03 PM
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4th of July Boss Quality Time - Rear Diff Fluid Edition

I got a chance to change out the rear diff fluid. It wasn't bad at all, about two hours without a lift or air tools. Just kinda messy and a pain to slide in and out a million times but not unlike any other diff fluid change.

I had some Red Line fluid and a bottle of the friction modifier. I also had a pump and an empty bottle that would fit the pump since Red Line caps are smaller.





I decided against drilling the cover. I think the better place would be the bottom of the housing where you'd get it all to drain out. That lower "boss" on the cover would work well for a temp sending unit.

First I needed to get it in the air so I could work. I think Scott made some like this? Anyway they were the perfect height for this job. They won't be high enough for the trans fluid job though. Thirty bucks from Home Depot with a box of screws. I had them do the cuts and I pre drilled the screw holes with the help of some clamps.



Turns out the panhard bar was easy to remove and likely necessary. Take the bolt out of each end and also loosen the other large bolt in the sheetmetal bracket to allow the bar to come out.






The first clue the bolt holes are blind was when I took the lower bolt out and no fluid followed. All the holes appear to be blind and not through to the inside. Sorry if this is common knowledge. My last diff was a 10.5" Sterling.



The top bolt was painted. A 12mm socket with short extension on a 3/8" ratchet is what I used for the cover bolts.



Remove the socket for the fill plug in the front of the pinion support housing.

Once all the bolts were out it was a matter of prying the cover off. This was very easy. It was not brutally stuck and there's a nice feature in the casting that allows for an easy pry. Make sure your catch pan is right there ready to go.



Once off I spent considerable time getting the surfaces clean. The OEM sealant was not cured all the way through. Maybe this is by design. It made it more difficult to remove is all. I used quite a bit of blue shop towels and brake cleaner after using the plastic razor blades.





Good pics of the innards.







Bead it up! Lower half got another bead even though I think I was good with the first bead which I managed to get a complete circle in one squeeze.



Tightened them until they started to squeeze out. Then gave them a break and washed the Race Red lawnmower! Came back and tightened them some more. Not super tight. Probably should have used a torque wrench but I had such good momentum at this point and the cover is very rigid. The cover rocks! Nice internal and external fins.



Panhard bar was an easy install. 18 mm socket on a 1/2" ratchet is what I used. Don't forget to tighten up the "3rd bolt" that you might have loosened in order to remove the panhard bar.

Removed the fill plug with the 3/8" extension on the ratchet. Easy.



Filled it up using the pump. Always put the additive in the diff first since you don't want to try and float some on at the end. For me that meant pouring it in the transfer bottle that fit the pump early on in the cycle. It took multiple times under the car since the bottle I was using was too tall for the pump and I didn't feel like monkeying with it. Used a bent piece of zip tie to measure depth. More knowledge gained from this site! I filled it again and measured again after this pic to get just under an inch below the fill plug.



I used some "Gasolia" to seal the fill plug. The plug is magnetic. Good stuff available from http://www.dieselorings.com/index.ph...at=15&group=12



The proof will be whether I have leaks but I feel good getting this out of the way. There was a fair amount of very, very fine silver colored material in the fluid so it was ready for some new blood. I highly recommend this to anyone capable of getting their car up in the air safely. I need to incorporate some chocks to augment the parking brake I had set.

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Great write up and super pictures, Fat Boss. I hope everyone realizes and appreciates the extra time it takes to grab these pics at each step and then to take the time to organize, upload, and document! Well done and thanks very much!!
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Great job documenting the whole process. Looks like it's all set for a few laps at LS this weekend!
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Thanks for the write-up!

I'm somewhat surprised that they didn't incorporate a drain plug (& fill for that matter) into the diff cover. It appears that the bosses there on the cover are designed for that purpose.
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Originally Posted by nota4re
Great write up and super pictures, Fat Boss. I hope everyone realizes and appreciates the extra time it takes to grab these pics at each step and then to take the time to organize, upload, and document! Well done and thanks very much!!
Thanks. I have to document builds at work so this was actually minimal in comparison to the multi hundred page docs I'm used to!

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Great job documenting the whole process. Looks like it's all set for a few laps at LS this weekend!
You know it Rick! Looks like my dad might roll down with me since all my friends have to work. I'm hoping if we get down there early we'll be ahead of the motorhomes and gremlins during the parade laps!

http://www.grand-am.com/assets/2011L...icialsched.pdf
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Originally Posted by BOSS_man
Thanks for the write-up!

I'm somewhat surprised that they didn't incorporate a drain plug (& fill for that matter) into the diff cover. It appears that the bosses there on the cover are designed for that purpose.
It was mentioned elsewhere that if you drill and tap that "boss" for a drain hole there will be significant amounts of oil left lower than that which would have to be evacuated by suction. To me, drilling and tapping the housing makes more sense.

As for the fill, it's not too bad at all to use the existing fill on the front of the pinion housing. It'd be nice to have a sight glass or a fill hole that you fill until it pours out though.
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Very nice write-up!

As an aside, and to save you some potential money - Redline already adds a friction modifier additive to the gear oil you used there, so no real need for you to do anything additional on future changes
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Originally Posted by LateApex
Very nice write-up!

As an aside, and to save you some potential money - Redline already adds a friction modifier additive to the gear oil you used there, so no real need for you to do anything additional on future changes
Thanks. You know my experience in changing the fluid 5 times in my Super Duty using the exact same fluid is that there is either none or not enough of the friction modifier in the Red Line, despite what it says on the bottle.
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Originally Posted by Fat Boss
Thanks. You know my experience in changing the fluid 5 times in my Super Duty using the exact same fluid is that there is either none or not enough of the friction modifier in the Red Line, despite what it says on the bottle.
Interesting - I had planned on pure Redline myself without an additive, but I'll have to pay attantion to it. Good info! Did you use the full 4oz of the Motorcraft additive?
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Thank you.
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Originally Posted by LateApex
Interesting - I had planned on pure Redline myself without an additive, but I'll have to pay attantion to it. Good info! Did you use the full 4oz of the Motorcraft additive?
Yes. The spec calls for 5oz, but since I am not convinced the Torsen needs any I just put in 4oz. If I get any sort of chatter I'll add another oz and re-evaluate.
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Originally Posted by Fat Boss
You know it Rick! Looks like my dad might roll down with me since all my friends have to work. I'm hoping if we get down there early we'll be ahead of the motorhomes and gremlins during the parade laps!

http://www.grand-am.com/assets/2011L...icialsched.pdf
We're doing the one on Saturday as part of the Mother's event. I wasn't sure if we'd be there in time for the one on Friday but maybe we'll try and get an early start so we can shoot video of you on the track going 120 mph er I mean 20 mph!
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Originally Posted by Fat Boss
Yes. The spec calls for 5oz, but since I am not convinced the Torsen needs any I just put in 4oz. If I get any sort of chatter I'll add another oz and re-evaluate.
Brilliant - I am interested in your results! Again, great pics and write-up.
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Good write up. I wondering why you stop 1" from the treads? The Boss supplement manual says to fill to 1/4" of the treads.
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Originally Posted by MJockey
Good write up. I wondering why you stop 1" from the treads? The Boss supplement manual says to fill to 1/4" of the treads.
Based on some threads I have read I decided on about 13/16" from the bottom of the hole. I have a little room to put more friction modifier in as well. I may just put some more 75W-140 in if the F/M % is ok.
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Thanks for the writeup and pics!
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Originally Posted by Fat Boss
Thanks. I have to document builds at work so this was actually minimal in comparison to the multi hundred page docs I'm used to!



You know it Rick! Looks like my dad might roll down with me since all my friends have to work. I'm hoping if we get down there early we'll be ahead of the motorhomes and gremlins during the parade laps!

http://www.grand-am.com/assets/2011L...icialsched.pdf
Oh jeez, I hope there aren't any motorhomes on the parade laps, I'll have to keep an eye out for your car out there!
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Originally Posted by CaptDistraction
Oh jeez, I hope there aren't any motorhomes on the parade laps, I'll have to keep an eye out for your car out there!
There's a parade lap on Saturday morning as well. Since my Boss won't be delivered in time don't be shocked to see a Lexus among all the Race N Rod's. See you Friday afternoon.
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Originally Posted by CaptDistraction
Oh jeez, I hope there aren't any motorhomes on the parade laps, I'll have to keep an eye out for your car out there!
Haha it'll look more like Parnelli Jones' ride than Capt LoneStar's ! Though I do have a dead ringer for LoneStar's RV in my yard. Same paint trim and everything.. just missing the I LOVE URANUS bumper sticker!
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Andy, outstanding thread. Thanks for taking the extra time to document it for all


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