Current trade-in value of a '12 Boss 302 is...
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Dark grey metallic with 21" silver wheels. The Tesla is brilliant. Disregarding the electric drive, I think most cars will switch to the Tesla "one big touchscreen to do everything" model. After experiencing it, it just doesn't make sense to have a dash with dozens of tiny buttons with cryptic logos on them. The big screen also opens up the option of upgrading and customizing the layout and functionality. Sync/Cue/etc seems quaint in comparison.
As for the electric part: I think we will have ICE cars for a long time, but more in special purpose vehicles. I think regular cars will pretty much all go electric. It just makes more sense. But an offroad pickup will probably have an ICE. Sports cars will probably stay ICE also for weight (and driving experience/sound) reasons.
With all that said, I can't think of any car I'd rather have as my daily driver than the Tesla.
As for the electric part: I think we will have ICE cars for a long time, but more in special purpose vehicles. I think regular cars will pretty much all go electric. It just makes more sense. But an offroad pickup will probably have an ICE. Sports cars will probably stay ICE also for weight (and driving experience/sound) reasons.
With all that said, I can't think of any car I'd rather have as my daily driver than the Tesla.
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that goes on within that company.
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This is absolutely true. Except for Tesla is a tiny company and is falsely represented as the car world's god-given-gift of perfection by the press/media. Like I said, once I can talk about it, I'll fill in a lot of details that are swept under the rug. Every manufacture does it, but when you've been around for 100 years, you can walk the walk and talk the talk. When you've been around for less than 10 years, and have only made 1.5 cars, there are no excuses for the that goes on within that company.
that goes on within that company.They all have one thing in common-they are all driving 55-65 miles per hour in the slow lane.
Conserving electricity, I presume.
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Yeah, Tesla Model S P85+. Motor trend got a 3.9s 0-60, and I've seen them run a 12.3s 1/4 mile. So I'm not really losing any straight line performance. It's not a track car like the Boss, but still tons of fun on the street. The instant torque is addicting. It makes it feel faster than the Boss, actually.
The Model S has been out for a little over a year now and it seems so far it has held up well. A few minor issues like door handles and stuff, but all quickly fixed under warranty. And Tesla will provide a loaner car, unlike Ford (that still annoys me).
I realize I'm being an early adapter here, with the risks (and excitement) that entails.
The Model S has been out for a little over a year now and it seems so far it has held up well. A few minor issues like door handles and stuff, but all quickly fixed under warranty. And Tesla will provide a loaner car, unlike Ford (that still annoys me).
I realize I'm being an early adapter here, with the risks (and excitement) that entails.
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lawsuit or not you can share the drama here...
what issues where you having? My wife and I just visited the King of Prussia, PA location to check out the 85S. She loves it as she wanted a 7 passenger SUV and this is faster, more efficient, and just has more cool factor than a MB, Infinity, Denali, etc!
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lawsuit or not you can share the drama here... what issues where you having? My wife and I just visited the King of Prussia, PA location to check out the 85S. She loves it as she wanted a 7 passenger SUV and this is faster, more efficient, and just has more cool factor than a MB, Infinity, Denali, etc!
I'll say this: the car is amazingly fast and handles great for its size and weight. The interior is a mess of a design, with tons of room but no storage space, and the build quality is a joke for what they're trying to compete with. Now the upper and middle management? The biggest clusterf*ck I've ever seen. The workerbees are some of the hardest working, most loyal employees I've ever seen (aside from my time at Apple, which is a whole 'nother story) yet they work you to death, hang you out to dry, and kick you to the curb when you ask for a day off after working 6 months of 60-70 hour work weeks (not to mention working off the clock at home). And they don't care, because there's a line, thousands deep to work at the overhyped, overglorified golden child of the auto industry. You all will most definitely say "it's just business," and yeah it is, but I'd expect a company to act like that when they've been around for 100 years, not 10.
For the record, the only Tesla I'd ever own would be a Roadster. They were bulletproof. I will fill in all the blanks at the conclusion of the lawsuit, if I'm allowed to.
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Jeep Wrangler TJ. The king of low depreciation. Ours is 10 years old and still worth just over half of sticker price.
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I can't risk it. It should be settled this year, hopefully by summertime.
I'll say this: the car is amazingly fast and handles great for its size and weight. The interior is a mess of a design, with tons of room but no storage space, and the build quality is a joke for what they're trying to compete with. Now the upper and middle management? The biggest clusterf*ck I've ever seen. The workerbees are some of the hardest working, most loyal employees I've ever seen (aside from my time at Apple, which is a whole 'nother story) yet they work you to death, hang you out to dry, and kick you to the curb when you ask for a day off after working 6 months of 60-70 hour work weeks (not to mention working off the clock at home). And they don't care, because there's a line, thousands deep to work at the overhyped, overglorified golden child of the auto industry. You all will most definitely say "it's just business," and yeah it is, but I'd expect a company to act like that when they've been around for 100 years, not 10.
For the record, the only Tesla I'd ever own would be a Roadster. They were bulletproof. I will fill in all the blanks at the conclusion of the lawsuit, if I'm allowed to.
I'll say this: the car is amazingly fast and handles great for its size and weight. The interior is a mess of a design, with tons of room but no storage space, and the build quality is a joke for what they're trying to compete with. Now the upper and middle management? The biggest clusterf*ck I've ever seen. The workerbees are some of the hardest working, most loyal employees I've ever seen (aside from my time at Apple, which is a whole 'nother story) yet they work you to death, hang you out to dry, and kick you to the curb when you ask for a day off after working 6 months of 60-70 hour work weeks (not to mention working off the clock at home). And they don't care, because there's a line, thousands deep to work at the overhyped, overglorified golden child of the auto industry. You all will most definitely say "it's just business," and yeah it is, but I'd expect a company to act like that when they've been around for 100 years, not 10.
For the record, the only Tesla I'd ever own would be a Roadster. They were bulletproof. I will fill in all the blanks at the conclusion of the lawsuit, if I'm allowed to.
So you are a former employee of Tesla? I see...?
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The schedule wore me out, put me on a short fuse and hurt my home life.
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Yes, a private sale in April or May would probably have gotten me $37K. In January I figure I'd be lucky to get $36K. Considering I get a $2K tax savings when I trade it in, 36-2=34. For $1K less I don't have to advertise it, deal with low ball offers, people showing up just to test drive it when they don't have the money etc.
A car just like mine recently sold on ebay. He only had 1,500 miles on it and got $37K.
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