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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 12:27 PM
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I think this is a great chance for everyone to get a optima batter.

keep in mind I also went though this

https://themustangsource.com/f804/20...-issue-505145/
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 01:09 PM
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All you guys need to pay a little more attention to your Mustangs.........



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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 01:10 PM
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Look, these batteries are supposed to be maintenance free. This obviously has a manufacturing defect or it was dammaged by a tech. It should be replaced if the car is still under warranty.

To the earlier tire comment. Remember the Firestone tire issues on the Explorer years ago? Both Ford and Firestone were responsible. Neither admitted fault, but both paid dearly in the courts. This is what caused their divorce after a hundred year marriage. And yes, I believe a lot of those failures were caused by lacks on the owners part to check the PSI. They also claimed that the Goodyear tires built to the same specs were flawless and Firestone closed the plant that made those bad tires for the Explorers.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 01:19 PM
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If I remember right.. Firestone was adding a lot of crap and filler into the tires which caused the failures. Ford was made to pay out money because people got hurt. You have to understand its a huge difference in laws and legalities from needing a new battery to scrapping family members off a highway.


the battery will be fixed under warranty.. check my link above


lets take another stab at this...


You buy a big screen tv.. it comes with batteries.. The batteries die after two weeks.. Do you start yelling "stupid sony" or "**** you lg"???
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Boss2X
Look, these batteries are supposed to be maintenance free. This obviously has a manufacturing defect or it was dammaged by a tech. It should be replaced if the car is still under warranty.

To the earlier tire comment. Remember the Firestone tire issues on the Explorer years ago? Both Ford and Firestone were responsible. Neither admitted fault, but both paid dearly in the courts. This is what caused their divorce after a hundred year marriage. And yes, I believe a lot of those failures were caused by lacks on the owners part to check the PSI. They also claimed that the Goodyear tires built to the same specs were flawless and Firestone closed the plant that made those bad tires for the Explorers.
it was those douchebag owners that caused the government to force tpms down everyone's throat.
learn to pay attention to your own machine.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
If I remember right.. Firestone was adding a lot of crap and filler into the tires which caused the failures. Ford was made to pay out money because people got hurt. You have to understand its a huge difference in laws and legalities from needing a new battery to scrapping family members off a highway.


the battery will be fixed under warranty.. check my link above


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You buy a big screen tv.. it comes with batteries.. The batteries die after two weeks.. Do you start yelling "stupid sony" or "**** you lg"???
Ford also recommended a lower tire inflation PSI than what the tires side wall said. Both sides were pointing fingers at each other.

I think the TV thing is an apples to oranges comparison. Ford gives a bumper to bumper warranty. They are the manufacturer. When Walmart sells you a TV, you don't take it to them for service if its broken or fails in two weeks. You have to go to a certified repair center. Those remote batteries are speced as AA or AAA, and they include the cheapest junk chinese made batteries with those remotes and I'd bet they are not covered under the TV sets warranty anyway. We have all seen those no name junk batteries with electronics purchases. I don't even use them.

I do see what you mean, but a quality part should not fail so soon and if it causes Ford too much in warranty cost, they can go after the supplier for their lost monies. Its in the supplier's contract terms from Ford purchasing. I would only be blaming Ford if they didn't take care of it. I would blame the battery manufacture for not catching this in QA before it got out the doorto Ford unless it was damaged by a tech, in which case it would be the service departments fault and they get a tounge lashing.

If it happened to me I might have some harsh words for the bean counters that might have influenced which part to buy based on the piece part cost only, because I know Ford didn't make the battery.

All the potential suppliers have to meet the spec. from Ford. Its how they execute the manufacturing and hopefully don't cut corners to increase margin on those low bid parts. (and I know it doesn't have to cost more to be better, but sometimes it does.) Ford has the final say in who's parts they use in the manufacture of their cars and you have to use the Ford dealers to keep the warranty valid on most repairs or service . They are completely responsible for their product (the car) in the end.

Boy, wouldn't you like to see the complete list of parts suppliers or manufactures that go into one of these cars? Without that its hard to complain at anyone but Ford if you have a problem.

Man, I hate these long winded posts, Sorry.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 03:16 PM
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it was those douchebag owners that caused the government to force tpms down everyone's throat.
learn to pay attention to your own machine.
Agree with that, but for this battery issue you shouldn't have to do a walk around like a pilot pre-flighting his plane. I don't look under the hood before every start up, but I am in there at least once a week checking oil and looking things over.

I just saw a news story about trying to make a radar based auto stop feature standard equipment. I believe in paying attention to the road in front of me and not screwing around so the car has to stop for me. Pretty soon the cars will be so safe that we can't afford to buy one.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 04:09 PM
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Idk why, but for some reason the corrosion on your battery reminded me of Fun Dip



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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 04:56 PM
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Glad to see some reasonable posts. For a moment I thought I was in an Apple forum!

If (note the word if. I don't know for a fact) a bean counter at Ford lowered the battery spec to get the price down, then I have a reason to be annoyed.

I don't get the posts that say I'm lazy and don't do maintenance. Maybe that makes sense in someone's world, not mine. I look under the hood at least once a week on my 1971 car. This is a new car. I expect to check oil occasionally and do a sanity check (coolant, brake fluid etc) every few months. I don't expect to do a full vehicle inspection every morning before going to work!

I'll take it to the dealer next week and see about getting a new battery & cable. The cable is damaged, all the nickel(?) coating is gone.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Boss2X
Agree with that, but for this battery issue you shouldn't have to do a walk around like a pilot pre-flighting his plane. I don't look under the hood before every start up, but I am in there at least once a week checking oil and looking things over.

I just saw a news story about trying to make a radar based auto stop feature standard equipment. I believe in paying attention to the road in front of me and not screwing around so the car has to stop for me. Pretty soon the cars will be so safe that we can't afford to buy one.
I agree the company ford buys the batteries from gets spec's and such from ford. I however doubt that ford had "crappy leaking posts that corrode" in said spec list.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 05:39 PM
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That didn't happen overnight though.

Look at mine.
Keep in mind that's my original battery that's finally kicked the bucket.
Cleaned it once, this was a couple weeks later. The eye is red at this point.
If I had a nickel for all the times I've had to clean battery terminals with baking soda and a battery brush over the years, I'd have a lot of nickels.

Every week I wash my Mustang I also wipe down the engine compartment and visually inspect the terminals. Surprisingly I haven't had to clean them once.

Anyone that is whining about Ford because of this is showing ignorance because it can happen on any battery. And as previously stated, if under warranty it will be taken care of.

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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 06:11 PM
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What's wrong with tpms?
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 06:56 PM
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its a dummy system for people that do not check the psi in tires as much as they should.
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
its a dummy system for people that do not check the psi in tires as much as they should.
Causing unnecessary expense for the sensors and an extreme inconvenience since tire shops won't change to winter tires on the vehicle unless you have tpms on the other set. So I have them mounted off vehicle and change my own in the driveway. But then the stupid alarm dings every 30 miles anyway.

I've checked my own tires for decades. Because I want to stay alive. I don't need some government program forcing me to accept their crap just because some lamo effing morons are too stupid to pay attention to their tire pressure, oil level, battery terminals, etc, etc, etc!

Grow up younger Americans. Grow up and be men. Learn about mechanical machines. Instead of a bunch of whiny girly girls.

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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 07:18 PM
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I blame the terminals for being contaminated with something that shouldn't be apart of it's component. As everyone know dissimilar materials ( copper/ zink ) will make a hell of a floral arrangement. Thin coat of silicon grease would keep the oxidation process from starting. The green in the corrosion show the copper is separating so I'd have to agree the battery is venting gas from high heat and causing things to break down. You might have to cut your cables back or replace them. Once that process starts it's hard to stop, it like cancer, you have to get it all otherwise your biding your time.


Go ahead , I'm ready for my post to be trashed, I know this is a common repercussion of posting here. But make it constructive. That's why we keep coming back, right?
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 07:23 PM
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[QUOTE=racered302;6695538]I blame the terminals for being contaminated with something that shouldn't be apart of it's component. As everyone know dissimilar materials ( copper/ zink ) will make a hell of a floral arrangement. Thin coat of silicon grease would keep the oxidation process from starting. The green in the corrosion show the copper is separating so I'd have to agree the battery is venting gas from high heat and causing things to break down. You might have to cut your cables back or replace them. Once that process starts it's hard to stop, it like cancer, you have to get it all otherwise your biding your time.


Go ahead , I'm ready for my post to be trashed, I know this is a common repercussion of posting here. But make it constructive. That's why we keep coming back, right?[/QUOTE]

simmer down. I think you made a good post.

the bolded part is you asking for crap. You need thicker skin because "internet"
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
Causing unnecessary expense for the sensors and an extreme inconvenience since tire shops won't change to winter tires on the vehicle unless you have tpms on the other set. So I have them mounted off vehicle and change my own in the driveway. But then the stupid alarm dings every 30 miles anyway.

I've checked my own tires for decades. Because I want to stay alive. I don't need some government program forcing me to accept their crap just because some lamo effing morons are too stupid to pay attention to their tire pressure, oil level, battery terminals, etc, etc, etc!

Grow up younger Americans. Grow up and be men. Learn about mechanical machines. Instead of a bunch of whiny girly girls.
Love this last part of your post.
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 03:28 AM
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Hold on a minute, that's not true. Ask anyone who owned a C-5 Corvette from '98 to '02 who had their side post battery dribble acid down on their PCM which was directly BELOW the battery. GM changed batteries in '03-04' to top post to curb the damage
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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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Idk why, but for some reason the corrosion on your battery reminded me of Fun Dip

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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 11:54 PM
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I would like to know how you were able to make this happen. It's one of the most gorgeous things I've ever see under a car hood. You could bottle this and sell it! I'm also wondering what the other side looks like. If it's the same, ditch the cover! And, most chicks would dig it cause they don't know any better!

If you must, you can clean it off by peeing on it! Like many have stated above, I've had to clean many posts in my day and have a lot of nickles!

Okay, okay, seriously...I coated both of my battery terminals with battery post grease shortly after buying my car because I'm lazy...and have a lot of nickles!!!
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