2012-2013 BOSS 302

500 RWHP CLUB...

Old Apr 23, 2013 | 11:24 AM
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Shyte, I wouldn't mind having 500 crank-hp, never mind 500 RWHP ...
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 08:16 AM
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awesome!!!!These cars are simply amazing!
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Old Apr 24, 2013 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500
When you say bad ***, does that mean pushing the danger limits?
500 is nothing for These engines, they are capable of alot. 500 n/a is impressive congrats
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Old Apr 25, 2013 | 12:27 AM
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Sex on wheels looks amazing
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Old May 1, 2013 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500
When you say bad ***, does that mean pushing the danger limits?
its danger zone man! DANGER ZONE! Didn't Kenny Loggins and Top Gun teach you anything. (well other than you can take the script from Top Gun, change the planes to race cars and call it Days of Thunder).
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Old May 1, 2013 | 12:23 PM
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500rwhp is awesome but what happened to the dang torque? 397? Wtf
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Old May 1, 2013 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Stage_3
Not just a 500HP Boss, but a 500rwhp Boss! Awesome.
I'm guessing you're at about 590/600 at the crank?
Depends on how much HP the driveline is absorbing, 15% for a GT500 is a fairly reliable figure prior to the inclusion of the 1 piece driveshaft. The MT82 in the Boss and GT is lighter duty so it absorbs less power.

For his Boss to be making 590-600 at the crank, driveline absorption would have to be about 20% which would be pretty high, his car is probably closer to 560-575 at the crank, maybe 590-600 if you put it on the dyno with no accessories and an electric water pump.
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Old May 1, 2013 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bob
Depends on how much HP the driveline is absorbing, 15% for a GT500 is a fairly reliable figure prior to the inclusion of the 1 piece driveshaft. The MT82 in the Boss and GT is lighter duty so it absorbs less power.
For his Boss to be making 590-600 at the crank, driveline absorption would have to be about 20% which would be pretty high, his car is probably closer to 560-575 at the crank, maybe 590-600 if you put it on the dyno with no accessories and an electric water pump.
Very informative. Thanks Bob!
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Old May 2, 2013 | 06:33 PM
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I am assuming the OP has forged internals? With that much horsepower at the crank, isn't it better to have forged internals?
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Old May 2, 2013 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Stage_3
I am assuming the OP has forged internals? With that much horsepower at the crank, isn't it better to have forged internals?
Boss internals are different than regular 5.0

Not sure exactly how but I know the rods are better even than the GT500.

Also there was a guy here making well over 600rwhp on stock internals in an early 2012 Boss before he sold it.
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Old May 2, 2013 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
Boss internals are different than regular 5.0
Not sure exactly how but I know the rods are better even than the GT500.
Also there was a guy here making well over 600rwhp on stock internals in an early 2012 Boss before he sold it.
I did not know that. Very cool. That's a great building platform for sure.
OVER 600rwhp on stock internals? WOW!
Thanks!
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Old May 2, 2013 | 08:01 PM
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http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...2/viewall.html

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...8/viewall.html


@ 2k the rods in the Boss are powdered metal with a cracked cap, the GT500 rods are forged and have a lot more to deal with (2000 psi combustion pressure events and piston speeds at around 4860 feet per second when the 5.8 is in over rev mode compared to the Boss which sees around 4570 feet per second (put into perspective the GT500 rod travels almost a football field farther in the same time at 500 less rpm)

I can't see Ford stuffing an inferior rod in there just from a reliability standpoint, especially considering the 5.8 uses around 100hp to drive the supercharger at full boost.
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Old May 3, 2013 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bob
http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...2/viewall.html

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...8/viewall.html


@ 2k the rods in the Boss are powdered metal with a cracked cap, the GT500 rods are forged and have a lot more to deal with (2000 psi combustion pressure events and piston speeds at around 4860 feet per second when the 5.8 is in over rev mode compared to the Boss which sees around 4570 feet per second (put into perspective the GT500 rod travels almost a football field farther in the same time at 500 less rpm)

I can't see Ford stuffing an inferior rod in there just from a reliability standpoint, especially considering the 5.8 uses around 100hp to drive the supercharger at full boost.
As always great info and I appreciate the input Bob.
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Old May 5, 2013 | 08:56 PM
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Congrats. Ken knows his stuff.
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Old May 14, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
Boss internals are different than regular 5.0

Not sure exactly how but I know the rods are better even than the GT500.

Also there was a guy here making well over 600rwhp on stock internals in an early 2012 Boss before he sold it.


That would have been me. 783 RWHP on a the "heartbreaker" mustang dyno at Evolution Performance. This was in June 2011. The vid and article links are in my sig. It was over 900 HP at the crank. Only mods were the ATI crank damper, o/r x pipe, S Type muffler, 72lb injectors, KB Boost a Pump, and of course the KB 2.8LC blower and throttle body.
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Old Sep 5, 2013 | 10:04 AM
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I heard a rumor, changing the Boss intake to the CobraJet intake and change the exhaust cams and tune will get you to 500rwhp on the Boss motor...
I'd like to see that....
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Old Sep 5, 2013 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JPC
I heard a rumor, changing the Boss intake to the CobraJet intake and change the exhaust cams and tune will get you to 500rwhp on the Boss motor...
I'd like to see that....
Someone over on BMO has hit over 500 whp, I don't recall if the cobrajet intake was used or if it was cams and other "bolt ons" Quick search could find it
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Old Sep 5, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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500 rwhp

Is this cheating?
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Old Sep 5, 2013 | 07:11 PM
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hhmmm wonder why not the mono blade TB????
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Old Sep 6, 2013 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dmichaels
Someone over on BMO has hit over 500 whp, I don't recall if the cobrajet intake was used or if it was cams and other "bolt ons" Quick search could find it
found it:
http://bossmustangsonline.com/index.php?topic=4415.0
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