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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 04:35 PM
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PP or not?

Big decision ahead. I will never track the car, boulevard cruising and short trips only. I am looking at a GT with most options I just can't decide on the PP or not. The ride might be too firm, fuel mileage not as good....dunno.
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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by guitar
Big decision ahead. I will never track the car, boulevard cruising and short trips only. I am looking at a GT with most options I just can't decide on the PP or not. The ride might be too firm, fuel mileage not as good....dunno.
IMHO if you're never going to the track and just looking for a car to cruise in, I would spend the extra on the pp. I just got a 2015 GT premium without any additional options. So far I'm loving it.
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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 05:53 PM
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As lame as it sounds I got my 2014 with the package mostly because of the wheels/tires/brakes... And now I feel like I want aftermarket wheels and tires anyway... Go with what makes sense... And it's not like a non pp will be bad on a track or spirited driving either...
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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 07:51 PM
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I'd do it for the 6 piston Brembos and 15" rotors alone. I'd change everything else anyways, but you can recoup a lot of the cost by selling the stock wheels and suspension if you ever change them...
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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by laserred38
I'd do it for the 6 piston Brembos and 15" rotors alone. I'd change everything else anyways, but you can recoup a lot of the cost by selling the stock wheels and suspension if you ever change them...
This. The brakes alone are worth the $2500. The extra stuff is just bonus.
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Old Dec 16, 2014 | 06:41 AM
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I got the PP on mine. I don't plan on swapping out my stock 19's. The PP might also give you other stuff you may not see like better handling components (strut/sway bar) like others said. Do what makes sense and feels right in your gut.




it was a no brainer for me. I didn't like the base model package.
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Old Dec 16, 2014 | 09:23 AM
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Im thinking about the PP but I cant order a spare tire and not a fan of the black wheels wish they were grey
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Old Dec 16, 2014 | 03:57 PM
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Im thinking about the PP but I cant order a spare tire and not a fan of the black wheels wish they were grey
I am not going to order a car without a spare. You can order 19" wheels (648) and get a spare. Why not the 19" (67G)? I don't think it can be that hard. If it is the Brembo brakes perhaps the front wheel would work on the rear. If not Ford could make a wheel that would fit both could they not?
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Old Dec 16, 2014 | 04:15 PM
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I am not going to order a car without a spare. You can order 19" wheels (648) and get a spare. Why not the 19" (67G)? I don't think it can be that hard. If it is the Brembo brakes perhaps the front wheel would work on the rear. If not Ford could make a wheel that would fit both could they not?
I ordered the Track Pack on my car and a spare from the parts dept before I picked up the car. I'd rather swap a tear to the front and put the spare on, than be stranded.
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Old Dec 16, 2014 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by laserred38
I ordered the Track Pack on my car and a spare from the parts dept before I picked up the car. I'd rather swap a tear to the front and put the spare on, than be stranded.
Would you share the part number of the spare wheel you purchased? Will it fit both front and rear?
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Old Dec 16, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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Would you share the part number of the spare wheel you purchased? Will it fit both front and rear?
Mine is a 2014. Different for the 15, as they offer an aluminum 18" spare now. But mine only fits the rear...
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 08:45 PM
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Don't waist your money on PP if you're not going to use it. Base brakes on the 15s are better than before. The only place you'd notice a Torsen, big brakes or the improved cooling is on the track.

I take my 2014 GT Track Pack to road courses. If I didn't it would be too stiff and jerky for the street. Plus with 3.73s I'd think the gears are too short for city driving. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my TP, but only because I get to really push it at the track every summer.
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER
Don't waist your money on PP if you're not going to use it. Base brakes on the 15s are better than before. The only place you'd notice a Torsen, big brakes or the improved cooling is on the track. I take my 2014 GT Track Pack to road courses. If I didn't it would be too stiff and jerky for the street. Plus with 3.73s I'd think the gears are too short for city driving. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my TP, but only because I get to really push it at the track every summer.
The 3.73s *are* too short for daily driving and mostly city streets. I sometimes wish to be able to wind out 1st and 2nd longer...
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 09:12 PM
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I have read several articles on the 2015, and one indicated the PP was great if you were tracking it, But otherwise it might be to much for just street use. I would suggest you try and find one to test drive before you order or buy. Also test a normal GT and compare the two for the driving you will be doing. I usually test drive a route that I use every day to judge the cars handling, suspension and braking.

The part number for the spare is : FR3Z*1K007*C (This is a kit consisting of the tire/wheel, jack and mounting hardware to install it in the trunk well.) Cost was $255.00

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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SD CALSPCL
I have read several articles on the 2015, and one indicated the PP was great if you were tracking it, But otherwise it might be to much for just street use. I would suggest you try and find one to test drive before you order or buy. Also test a normal GT and compare the two for the driving you will be doing. I usually test drive a route that I use every day to judge the cars handling, suspension and braking. The part number for the spare is : FR3Z*1K007*C (This is a kit consisting of the tire/wheel, jack and mounting hardware to install it in the trunk well.) Cost was $255.00
Not sure which articles you're reading, because I've read several too and most claim the base GT suspension is very willowy and tuned to be a grand tourer, and the PP should be the base suspension (and even then it's too soft to be track worthy), which coincidentally is exactly how the 11-14 was...
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER
Don't waist your money on PP if you're not going to use it. Base brakes on the 15s are better than before. The only place you'd notice a Torsen, big brakes or the improved cooling is on the track. I take my 2014 GT Track Pack to road courses. If I didn't it would be too stiff and jerky for the street. Plus with 3.73s I'd think the gears are too short for city driving. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my TP, but only because I get to really push it at the track every summer.
I agree , The PP is there for a reason. If your not going to use it, why get it?
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Old Dec 17, 2014 | 10:28 PM
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I agree with laserred38 the factory has never put a suspension on that was too stiff only too soft and under dampened. That said the PP is a terrific street suspension finally they put some damping in the shocks how long they will last is anybodies guess but the do work well when new. I for one wouldn't live with the stock GT suspension the old track pack was almost as bad they don't hold a candle to the PP. I don't like the factory wheels not on any budget car like the Mustang. They are always too heavy and the PP wheels are no exception 33 pounds each is silly my 20x10.5 TSW weighed 24.5 pounds each. Massive chassis stiffening, stiffer bushings, Torsen differential [don't like the 3.73], bigger brakes front and rear, different sway bars, a dark colored dash instead of the hideous silver, better aero splitter, etc, the PP package is a steal.
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Old Dec 18, 2014 | 02:13 AM
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I don't understand why I cant get the pp on an automatic, **** Ford put it on the option list,
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Old Dec 18, 2014 | 02:25 AM
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I don't understand why I cant get the pp on an automatic, **** Ford put it on the option list,
It's not an option on the automatic because the Performance Pack was intended for a driver's car and a real driver's car has a manual transmission.
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Old Dec 18, 2014 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by t-fatty
I don't understand why I cant get the pp on an automatic, **** Ford put it on the option list,
It looks to me that the pp with an automatic is only available in the " GT 50 Years Limited Edition".
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