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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 12:14 PM
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The Mustang is About to Punch Above its Weight



The new Mustang is going to set the world on fire, and I know that’s a bit presumptuous to say since most people haven't even driven one yet, but it’s about to punch way above its weight, and I have a feeling it’s going to win.

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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 12:41 PM
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I don't disagree with the sentiment but the biggest problem with the article is that you can get an MX-5 Miata for ~$10k less than a Mustang GT convertible and probably have just as big of a smile on your face (unless you're absolutely hung up on the V8 sound).

Cars of the F-Type/911 variety are an irrational, emotioal purchase. You can't boil it down to a dollar figure.

Otherwise, yeah...I think the argument for the Mustang over the past 4 years is that it offers insane levels of performance AND driving pleasure for the dollar. Nothing can touch it.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 01:33 PM
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Hmmmm... read the article. Punch above its weight, yes. But not THAT far above its weight. 2015 pony will be a great car and a great bang for the buck. But if I had to choose between those 3? I'd choose the F type or Merc... unless the mustang was the new yet to be seen SVT
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 02:44 PM
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I've driven the 2015 F-Type Coupe and the Ragtop and they are simply JOY!! I'm a Mustang Guy and I can't imagine the new 2015 Mustang being in the same ballpark as these cars.....BUT, I hope you are right!

Read my blog about the 2015 F-Type and let me know what you think!!

http://carsandcoffeetalk.blogspot.co...unveiling.html

Price wise.....Mustang is the smart choice! That's for sure
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JonathonK


The new Mustang is going to set the world on fire, and I know that’s a bit presumptuous to say since most people haven't even driven one yet, but it’s about to punch way above its weight, and I have a feeling it’s going to win.

Read the rest on the Mustang Source homepage.
Not a bad article. I have seen a few F-types around and they grab alot of attention.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JonathonK
The new Mustang is going to set the world on fire, and I know that’s a bit presumptuous to say since most people haven't even driven one yet, but it’s about to punch way above its weight, and I have a feeling it’s going to win. Read the rest on the Mustang Source homepage.
I'd agree with that sentiment, but of course price and exclusivity are a major factor in cars like the 911 and now the AMG GT. The F type is a yet to be seen unknown quantity but if the advertising works well.. Then the perceived exclusivity of the Jaguar will be enough to push buyers in that direction. Of course those cars are also emotional choices as well, and not very practical in day to day world most of us live in. Mustang is far more practical in so many ways. It's the aspirational car for the working person. It's got a back seat, good sized trunk, doesn't cost thousands to maintain and gets good gas mileage. Oh and btw it runs like a scalded cat ( or should I say horse)! It handles and performs better than almost any other car in it's price range and it is an emotional but for those who love them. So is it in the same class as the high priced exotics? Well if you put performance numbers said, then no. It is however one of the most practical sports cars around at any price and is going to look really good in my driveway
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 09:01 PM
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I don't care for the styling of the AMG, but the Jaguar F-Type is just gorgeous. Such a crying shame that it's not available with a manual transmission. If they came with a stick (and I were rich) I'd want to get one in British Racing Green. The hard choice would be choosing between the coupe and convertible. I don't care if it's not as fast around a race track as a 911, the Jag is fast enough and has twice the style.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 12:39 AM
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Forget talk about Jag and AMG. The 2015 Mustang might just bring the Hyundai Genesis Coupe back into the game from it's near-demise. The V6 and 2.0T Mustangs will be competing with the Genesis Coupe. The Mustang will undoubtedly win that contest but the Genesis Coupe is a much more attractively styled car to me. It's a purely modern style without all the retro tacky baggage clinging to the Mustang.

This new Mustang better turn out to be all that and a bag of chips to deserve the hyperbole it's getting before it's been released to the general public. Lets see if it can punch within it's own weight class first, like how the S550 is going to unseat the Camaro as top dog in this market segment before we talk about it competing with Jag or AMG.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 05:41 AM
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I don't think the 911 is an irrational purchase. It is a truly phenomenal car. This newest version. Is by far the best car I've ever driven and I've driven both the manual and the PDK. Ranked #1 & 2 of best cars ever for me, within some reason. Just like $30k or. $40k or $50 or $60 is justified for said Mustang, the $80-$170 can be justified if you have the means. Mustang is great, but it is still far from a refined car. The new one will make strides I'm sure, but it won't punch far above its weight in all categories, nor will it be at the top of its class in any non-emotional category. Looks or interior environment/quality of materials maybe. The new Challenger's interior will be tough to beat in that regard. Economy, Range (a big one for me), stiffness(chassis not susp), ride driveline smoothness, brake power(without relying on extremely dusty high friction front only pads) all have a very far way to go before they are at the same levels as competitors or other cars from different segments even at the same price.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 02:24 PM
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Further thoughts on this, a current well-equipped '14 Mustang V6 convertible tops out over $40k in Canada (MSRP before incentives). The upcoming Ecoboost Premium convertible will surely cost more than this without incentives available for some time in the future. The GT Premium convertible will likely top $50k Canadian when fully equipped. This brings it into the pricing range where cars like the $56k base price BMW 4-series convertible become a consideration. It's a step up in pricing but not that big of a step when you consider the lofty territory where the Mustang is headed.
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Old Sep 14, 2014 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Boss 0960
Forget talk about Jag and AMG. The 2015 Mustang might just bring the Hyundai Genesis Coupe back into the game from it's near-demise. The V6 and 2.0T Mustangs will be competing with the Genesis Coupe. The Mustang will undoubtedly win that contest but the Genesis Coupe is a much more attractively styled car to me. It's a purely modern style without all the retro tacky baggage clinging to the Mustang. This new Mustang better turn out to be all that and a bag of chips to deserve the hyperbole it's getting before it's been released to the general public. Lets see if it can punch within it's own weight class first, like how the S550 is going to unseat the Camaro as top dog in this market segment before we talk about it competing with Jag or AMG.
Just because the Camaro sells (right now) does not mean it is too dog. Okay, they have the ZL-1 and Z-28. Hellcat renders ZL-1 moot. GT350 will render Z-28 moot.

Just because a lot of idiots buy an inferior car, from an inferior company, doesn't mean the car is best in the class. Best selling (now) =/= best in class.

Historically, Mustang has outsold Camaro more often than not. Personally, I'd rather have something that other people don't. All the Camaros around here are driven by ghetto a** people. The few Mustangs you see, that aren't V6 rentals, are grandmas in V6s with the Pony Package, or older dudes in base/Premium no option GTs reliving their youth.
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Old Sep 14, 2014 | 03:28 PM
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Just because the Camaro sells (right now) does not mean it is too dog. Okay, they have the ZL-1 and Z-28. Hellcat renders ZL-1 moot. GT350 will render Z-28 moot.

Just because a lot of idiots buy an inferior car, from an inferior company, doesn't mean the car is best in the class. Best selling (now) =/= best in class.

Historically, Mustang has outsold Camaro more often than not. Personally, I'd rather have something that other people don't. All the Camaros around here are driven by ghetto a** people. The few Mustangs you see, that aren't V6 rentals, are grandmas in V6s with the Pony Package, or older dudes in base/Premium no option GTs reliving their youth.
The GT350 is vaporware at this point. It will be years before the Mustang gets a heavyweight model to compete with the Hellcat or ZL1.

What's supposed to make the '15 Mustang so great is that it's finally getting IRS. Never mind punching above it's weight, the Mustang is finally going to catch up to it's competition that's been using IRS for years. Sales of the V6/Ecoboost models is the metric that will be used to determine the car's success, like it or not. If the new Mustang is so great, the sales wil follow. All I'm saying is let's see if the '15 can take on it's immediate competition before we start comparing it to Jags and AMGs.
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Old Sep 14, 2014 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Boss 0960
The GT350 is vaporware at this point. It will be years before the Mustang gets a heavyweight model to compete with the Hellcat or ZL1.

What's supposed to make the '15 Mustang so great is that it's finally getting IRS. Never mind punching above it's weight, the Mustang is finally going to catch up to it's competition that's been using IRS for years. Sales of the V6/Ecoboost models is the metric that will be used to determine the car's success, like it or not. If the new Mustang is so great, the sales wil follow. All I'm saying is let's see if the '15 can take on it's immediate competition before we start comparing it to Jags and AMGs.
Concur! the mustang has finally come into the new century by adopting the IRS, I think the Ecoboost will also make a difference and it's the way of the future like it or not! I think the need to include the V6 Ecoboost in the line up to replace the N/A V6 (if space permits).
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