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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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2013 GT500 to have a 600+ hp 5.8!?

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car...er-future_cars

"Only a month after the unveiling of the 550-plus-hp 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1, word is leaking out that Ford will substantially advance the muscle-car wars with a 2013 Shelby GT500 making a pants-bursting 600-plus horsepower.

Our well-informed sources say the stratospheric output figure, which could be as high as 620 horses, is the result of boring out the current 5.4-liter V-8 to 5.8 liters and swapping the existing Eaton M112 supercharger for the same firm’s more-efficient and quieter TVS unit."

HP wars oh my!
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 07:27 PM
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Good! Keep it coming!
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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Holy Santa Clause!
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 07:31 PM
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wonder why they camod a car that has a body that we ahve seen already. seems like it would be easier to hide new engine testing in a perfectly normal looking 500.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 07:48 PM
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".....and in 2021 Ford says their quadroople charged W16 will get a whopping 1700 hp, surpassing the Camaros previously elite atom-splitting engine ....."
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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It's amazing how far we've come, Getting a Fox Body to 300rwhp back in the day made a Bad *** street car. Id love to see Ford go right to the KB blower for a Factory 700+HP and put the GT500 on a diet of a few hundred pounds!
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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if it's got a 5.8 liter they should ditch the GT500 name and call it a BOSS 351! I've been waiting years for them to put out a 5.8 for nostalgias sake.
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 11:34 AM
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hmm... 5.0gt , already has traction problems.. 2012 GT500 with 550hp, has traction problems... Solution... give it 600+whp!!!!! i hope they put bigger tires!!
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 11:35 AM
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same here. 5.8 (351ci) would mean as much to the 1st gen owners as the 5.0 does to the latter generations.
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Knight
wonder why they camod a car that has a body that we ahve seen already. seems like it would be easier to hide new engine testing in a perfectly normal looking 500.
Because that car was already laying around from previous testing. Why repaint a car used as a powertrain mule that will eventually be crushed?
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 04:47 PM
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600+ hp would be sweet, but holy crap, they need to put some 335s on that thing.

And putting it on 300lb diet would be nice.
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Knight
wonder why they camod a car that has a body that we ahve seen already. seems like it would be easier to hide new engine testing in a perfectly normal looking 500.
Because magazines, and us wouldn't be talking about it if it wasn't. They never would have paid attention to the car if it looked just like another Mustang running around. Free press and publicity.
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 05:56 PM
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also, there pretty much needs to be a Boss 351
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 12:57 AM
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Yea, I agree we need a Boss 351 as an encore to the Boss 302.
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 04:12 PM
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This is my dream lineup

Mach 1 = naturally aspirated 5.0 or 5.8 with new fascias and hood.

Boss 351 = naturally aspirated 5.8 with a factory tune and all the suspension goodies. Also unique body.

Gt 500 = blown 5.8

These aren't likely but I like pretending they will all come true!
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 04:49 PM
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https://themustangsource.com/f805/20...rumors-492948/
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 08:55 AM
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A 620 hp TVS-blown 5.8 based on the 5.4 for the 2013 GT500 would make no sense at all.

You can get to 660hp just by slapping the TVS FRPP blower on the 5.4 with no other changes. I wouldn't be surprised if the 2013 GT500 is just that - the 5.4 with a TVS, detuned to 620 horses.

There may be a blown 5.8 in the works but I doubt it's based on the 5.4 and I doubt it'll show up in the 2013 GT500.
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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You are basing what aftermarket parts can do to an engine,
but with a 5.8/TVS combo, think of how high that cealing can go, and that 600ish HP is factory warrantied, and more efficient, that has to last xxx thousand miles.

Look at the comparison of the 5L and the 5.4/SC
If you're going to upgrade the 5.4, why NOT pump up the cubic inches and whoop some ***....
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Old Apr 13, 2011 | 05:44 PM
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I would guess at most that ford might slap on the TVS blower for some additional power (575+) but probably won't spend that much more time and money on the dead-man-walking tall-block mod motor in the current GT500 -- not impossible, but unlikely. Of course, Ford has been on quite a product development tear lately so perhaps I'm still looking at them with their previous "good enough" mindset.

More likely, I think, would be that Ford will be concentrating its efforts on the NextStang in its various iterations, including, presumably, the GT500 or its successor. I think the purely broad-axe mega-power approach will be tempered, if only a little, by focusing on a more well rounded performance envelope and greater efficiency in a lighter, lither package. A more likely power plant would be a force feed 5.0 which has shown immense potential for responding to force feeding [http://50mustangsuperfords.automotiv...dor/index.html].
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Old Apr 14, 2011 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
You are basing what aftermarket parts can do to an engine,
but with a 5.8/TVS combo, think of how high that cealing can go, and that 600ish HP is factory warrantied, and more efficient, that has to last xxx thousand miles.

Look at the comparison of the 5L and the 5.4/SC
If you're going to upgrade the 5.4, why NOT pump up the cubic inches and whoop some ***....
I'm not basing it on aftermarket parts, I'm basing it on the upgrade that FRPP sells which consists of nothing more than the TVS and Procal with a Ford designed tune and comes with a warranty from Ford. To get to 600-620hp you literally do not need anything more than the TVS. There's no need to increase displacement to 5.8.
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