5.0 Oil consumption
6/8/13, 05:05 PM
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5.0 Oil consumption
I haven't heard too much talk lately about 5.0 oil consumption. I know others have had the problem, so i'm curious to know how long it took to correct itself, or what Ford service has done to test and/or correct the problem.
I've had my 2013 for almost a year now. At about 3,000 miles I got a low oil warning and put in 2 quarts and went back the dealer with the problem. They did an oil change at that time and could find no signs of any leaks. They also said that there was a 10,000 mile break in period before Ford would consider it to be a problem. While waiting for them to do the oil change, I had done some google searches about the problem and also saw a few posts about the break in period as well.
I did my next oil change at 8,000 miles, still missing oil in between, and now at 13,000 miles i'm ready for another change this week.
In this time i've put in 6 quarts of oil, and checking it today, i'm down at least a half a quart now.
Since i'm past the 10K mark the service manager said i'd have to wait, what can I expect them to do to find the problem, or what should I ask them to do?
I've had my 2013 for almost a year now. At about 3,000 miles I got a low oil warning and put in 2 quarts and went back the dealer with the problem. They did an oil change at that time and could find no signs of any leaks. They also said that there was a 10,000 mile break in period before Ford would consider it to be a problem. While waiting for them to do the oil change, I had done some google searches about the problem and also saw a few posts about the break in period as well.
I did my next oil change at 8,000 miles, still missing oil in between, and now at 13,000 miles i'm ready for another change this week.
In this time i've put in 6 quarts of oil, and checking it today, i'm down at least a half a quart now.
Since i'm past the 10K mark the service manager said i'd have to wait, what can I expect them to do to find the problem, or what should I ask them to do?
6/8/13, 07:09 PM
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Compression leak/down test. Pull the cam covers and inspect for broken valve seals. Check intake system for excess oil puddling.
That is excessive so don't let them tell you "normal".
Rings seat or don't seat within the first hundred miles or so supposedly. Not 10,000 miles. If there isn't a leak beneath the engine, then oil has to be coming by the rings either by a broken compression ring or a defective oil control ring - remember they changed the design for 13 because of 11/12 #8 (ever see smoke?), leaking valve seals, or excessive blow by thru the PCV system. Can you wipe excess carbon out of the exhaust tips?
I can't think of any other path can you?
Have you contacted Deysha?
That is excessive so don't let them tell you "normal".
Rings seat or don't seat within the first hundred miles or so supposedly. Not 10,000 miles. If there isn't a leak beneath the engine, then oil has to be coming by the rings either by a broken compression ring or a defective oil control ring - remember they changed the design for 13 because of 11/12 #8 (ever see smoke?), leaking valve seals, or excessive blow by thru the PCV system. Can you wipe excess carbon out of the exhaust tips?
I can't think of any other path can you?
Have you contacted Deysha?
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6/9/13, 01:21 AM
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They tell me normal for the break in period, but not for after that time. I hear/read both sides that it shouldn't happen, and that it can happen. It's the internet after all, everything you see is true, right? 
I haven't seen any smoke and didn't know to check the exhaust tips. I'll have to check that in the morning.
They said 10K so I want to give them the benefit of the doubt first, so I haven't contacted Deysha yet. My dealership is one of the good ones around and they have treated me right in the past. I don't want to go over their head yet to get something fixed unless they fail.
I haven't seen any smoke and didn't know to check the exhaust tips. I'll have to check that in the morning.
They said 10K so I want to give them the benefit of the doubt first, so I haven't contacted Deysha yet. My dealership is one of the good ones around and they have treated me right in the past. I don't want to go over their head yet to get something fixed unless they fail.
6/9/13, 03:23 PM
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My '13 GT ate two quarts in the first 10K miles but it's appetite seems to be waning now. Added an oil cooler at 10k (with an extra half quart) and have added less than half a quart from 10K-15K.
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6/12/13, 08:33 AM
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I haven't heard too much talk lately about 5.0 oil consumption. I know others have had the problem, so i'm curious to know how long it took to correct itself, or what Ford service has done to test and/or correct the problem.
I've had my 2013 for almost a year now. At about 3,000 miles I got a low oil warning and put in 2 quarts and went back the dealer with the problem. They did an oil change at that time and could find no signs of any leaks. They also said that there was a 10,000 mile break in period before Ford would consider it to be a problem. While waiting for them to do the oil change, I had done some google searches about the problem and also saw a few posts about the break in period as well.
I've had my 2013 for almost a year now. At about 3,000 miles I got a low oil warning and put in 2 quarts and went back the dealer with the problem. They did an oil change at that time and could find no signs of any leaks. They also said that there was a 10,000 mile break in period before Ford would consider it to be a problem. While waiting for them to do the oil change, I had done some google searches about the problem and also saw a few posts about the break in period as well.
As cdynaco mentioned, please let me get this escalated to the customer service manager for your area. Please PM me with your VIN, dealer, mileage, full name, and best daytime number so I can help.
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6/12/13, 08:50 AM
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6/12/13, 10:58 AM
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Will your engine oil pressure gauge let you know when the oil is getting low (LCD Screen Gauge)? I found the dipstick to be very unreliable. Especially when you have to manuever it around the strut tower brace.
6/12/13, 11:32 AM
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Hey man - the dip stick is the only reliable way. Forget the digital world and think about it. Measure it before you start the engine for the day and on level of ground as possible.And no - the oil pressure gauge - even a real one (ours are electronic through the ECM) - will only tell you after you are several quarts low - as in the 'danger zone'. My experience on an OHC has been that by the time the oil pressure gauge is 'fluttering' I have already been hearing the valves clatter from lack of oil up top.
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6/12/13, 12:38 PM
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Hey man - the dip stick is the only reliable way. Forget the digital world and think about it. Measure it before you start the engine for the day and on level of ground as possible.And no - the oil pressure gauge - even a real one (ours are electronic through the ECM) - will only tell you after you are several quarts low - as in the 'danger zone'. My experience on an OHC has been that by the time the oil pressure gauge is 'fluttering' I have already been hearing the valves clatter from lack of oil up top.
Yea I tried measuring via the dipstick yesterday and apparently I must have pulled some oil up the tube. The dipstick was reading all over the place. I will do what you said and see what I come up with. I hate dipsticks
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6/12/13, 01:46 PM
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I agree about trying to read the dipstick. It is such a small area to read, and if the oil is clean you can barely see it, if it can be seen at all. Then smudging it against the sides of the dipstick tube doesn't help the matter either. As Charlie said, the best time to check it is after it has been sitting overnight which is what I do. It's a lot easier that when when all the oil has had a chance to drip down and settle.
6/12/13, 01:53 PM
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I just called the dealer and made my appointment for Monday. I mentioned the oil problem since the first change and he did verify the 10K break in, but did say it typically takes 3K to 6K depending on how you drive it. I'm easy on it most of the time, so maybe I should be flooring it more often? 
He said they will do an oil consumption test. He said they do this by marking the dipstick and the plug. When I feel i'm down a quart I am to bring it in and they will check and add oil as needed. They will do that a couple of times and take it from there.
I'll get Deysha on it too, but it sounds like the dealer is going to do the right thing so far.
He said they will do an oil consumption test. He said they do this by marking the dipstick and the plug. When I feel i'm down a quart I am to bring it in and they will check and add oil as needed. They will do that a couple of times and take it from there.
I'll get Deysha on it too, but it sounds like the dealer is going to do the right thing so far.
6/12/13, 05:26 PM
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When the display first came on at 3,000 miles there was nothing visible on the dipstick. Two quarts were put in, but I forget where it had read on the dipstick but it was safe enough to get to the dealer.
I agree about trying to read the dipstick. It is such a small area to read, and if the oil is clean you can barely see it, if it can be seen at all. Then smudging it against the sides of the dipstick tube doesn't help the matter either. As Charlie said, the best time to check it is after it has been sitting overnight which is what I do. It's a lot easier that when when all the oil has had a chance to drip down and settle.
I agree about trying to read the dipstick. It is such a small area to read, and if the oil is clean you can barely see it, if it can be seen at all. Then smudging it against the sides of the dipstick tube doesn't help the matter either. As Charlie said, the best time to check it is after it has been sitting overnight which is what I do. It's a lot easier that when when all the oil has had a chance to drip down and settle.
We have the awesome hi-tech engines but at some point, you would think an engineer would have designed a better oil level gauge than a freaking dip stick.