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jim010 Sep 23, 2015 10:21 PM

That's a whole lotta pins!

Kona, I found my pins on the old harness, I just had to slightly modify them a bit to fit right. They are on there, just have to keep looking.

I have been using my Sport shift for some time now. Did AED say what needed to be done? I have not noticed anything out of sorts when I use it.

Kona12GT Sep 24, 2015 08:54 AM

I don't remember exactly what he told me, was last year when I got the tune from him. I will keep looking on that dash harness. Do you remember how you had to modify the pin?

jim010 Sep 24, 2015 09:05 AM

Not precisely, but it was a matter of using fine needle nose pliers. It doesn't have to be perfect.

Kona12GT Sep 24, 2015 09:48 AM

Anyone know the difference between the GT and V6 premium clusters? The way I understand is that either would work.

jim010 Sep 24, 2015 10:16 AM

That is my understanding as well.

Blackout_87 Sep 29, 2015 08:29 PM

I'm needing help finding as-built codes to finish this swap. Any help would be greatly appreciated

rdplain Sep 30, 2015 08:05 AM

Go to: http://www.motorcraftservice.com/

Click "Quick Guides" on the left

Scroll down and click on "Module Built Data (As-Built)"

Enter VIN

Use Internet explorer, doesn't work with other browsers.

Kona12GT Oct 2, 2015 03:53 PM

Anyone have an issue installing the new ABS module? I cannot seem to get rid of the ABS and traction control lights. I have programmed it about 3 times now and I still get a dtc saying something about invalid software for the module. Does this mean it may be bad? I bought it from a salvage yard.

jim010 Oct 4, 2015 10:38 AM

If you are having problems, you can get the dealer to do it - but yes, it is possible that your module is bad. There was another member that was having that issue and got a different module.

Blueeyedsnake on SVTP posted on how to on this including the programming. You can look on his write up. I hate referring to him, as he took all the credit for this mod without even mentioning who was actually responsible ... but he does have the programming portion written.

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...ck-Apps-and-LC

LEXiiON Oct 4, 2015 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by jim010 (Post 6948894)
If you are having problems, you can get the dealer to do it - but yes, it is possible that your module is bad. There was another member that was having that issue and got a different module.

Blueeyedsnake on SVTP posted on how to on this including the programming. You can look on his write up. I hate referring to him, as he took all the credit for this mod without even mentioning who was actually responsible ... but he does have the programming portion written.

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...ck-Apps-and-LC

I had 2 used ABS modules that didn't want to PMI. All used from a wrecker. Once I got a new one it worked fine. Somehow there are ABS modules that don't like to get PMI'd. Try a new one, they are only $180 from Tousley.

LEXiiON

Blackout_87 Oct 9, 2015 10:41 PM

I'm having a problem programming my keys to my new cluster keep coming up saying unsuccessful that the key is already programmed when it isn't. Any suggestions?

Grabber5.00 Oct 17, 2015 06:51 PM

Anyone know if you have to update PCM and pats before message center button will work? Everything looks right but the message center buttons don't work. Unhooked the old message center and triple checked my pins. Don't won't to keep going until I'm sure I have this right

jim010 Oct 18, 2015 09:50 AM


I'm having a problem programming my keys to my new cluster keep coming up saying unsuccessful that the key is already programmed when it isn't. Any suggestions?
I had the dealer do mine, as I didn't have IDS at the time. If having trouble, you can put the old cluster in, drive to the dealer and then put new cluster in to have keys programmed.


Anyone know if you have to update PCM and pats before message center button will work? Everything looks right but the message center buttons don't work. Unhooked the old message center and triple checked my pins. Don't won't to keep going until I'm sure I have this right
You do not need to program anything to get the 5D switch to work. Something is wrong in the wiring or the switch is bad.

Grabber5.00 Oct 18, 2015 11:17 AM

Finally wrapped it up today. Bent pin in the steering harness and not having ids set to dealer caused a headache. Had to grab some pins from the nav harness I referenced in the other thread. Great mod now that everything is working.

intoadaze Oct 26, 2015 12:17 AM

I been following this thread for months and I finally get it! LOL. I have a base 2012.

I want to install a Premium Gauge Cluster on my 2012. Before I start ordering I want someone to confirm the following:

2012 premium stangs do not need the steering wheel switch, the gauges are controlled by the buttons near the headlight switch.

In order to do this swap will i need the following?
2012 Premium Steering Wheel(Just because the 2012 base steering wheel is horrible..google it).
2012 Premium Gauge Cluster
VCM II Tool
that's it right?

Steps:
1. Get a new 2012 prem cluster or have someone set the mileage.
2. Install the cluster my self
3. Do a PATS relearn with the VCM tool for both of my keys
4. Turn the car on and test everything.
5. Install premium steering wheel, just to have a fancy looking wheel.

If this work it might help other 2011/2012 owners. Since 2011/2012 premiums didn't come with any of the track apps I don't think we need any ASBuilt codes or flash anything.

Can someone please confirm?

LEXiiON Oct 26, 2015 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by intoadaze (Post 6951463)
I been following this thread for months and I finally get it! LOL. I have a base 2012.

I want to install a Premium Gauge Cluster on my 2012. Before I start ordering I want someone to confirm the following:

2012 premium stangs do not need the steering wheel switch, the gauges are controlled by the buttons near the headlight switch.

In order to do this swap will i need the following?
2012 Premium Steering Wheel(Just because the 2012 base steering wheel is horrible..google it).
2012 Premium Gauge Cluster
VCM II Tool
that's it right?

Steps:
1. Get a new 2012 prem cluster or have someone set the mileage.
2. Install the cluster my self
3. Do a PATS relearn with the VCM tool for both of my keys
4. Turn the car on and test everything.
5. Install premium steering wheel, just to have a fancy looking wheel.

If this work it might help other 2011/2012 owners. Since 2011/2012 premiums didn't come with any of the track apps I don't think we need any ASBuilt codes or flash anything.

Can someone please confirm?

If you just add the premium from the same year (2012) then yes, that's all you need to do. Just swap the cluster and do PATS.

LEXiiON

intoadaze Oct 26, 2015 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by LEXiiON (Post 6951488)
If you just add the premium from the same year (2012) then yes, that's all you need to do. Just swap the cluster and do PATS.

LEXiiON

Awesome! Thank you sir!
Once I do this I'll post pics for future 2011/2012 owners.

jim010 Nov 14, 2015 04:39 PM

Well that is it for getting as built data for our cars.

You now need a subscription to access as built from Motorcraft's site.

rdplain Nov 16, 2015 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by jim010 (Post 6954309)
Well that is it for getting as built data for our cars.

You now need a subscription to access as built from Motorcraft's site.

Not sure where you are getting that info. Still works for me.

Make sure you are using Internet Explorer, it will not open in Chrome or Firefox.

jim010 Nov 16, 2015 08:05 AM

That may explain it then.


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