Do you own a Boss 302? My first ride in a REAL BOSS 302 was on the way home from the hospital after i was born(41 years ago). I was fortunate enough to attend last years Boss reunion in Dearborn and got to talk with the engineers (old and new) about the development of these cars. I KNOW what a Real Boss is. I love the stripe WITH BOSS in it, so i put it on MY car. Get over it. Another thing, What gives you the right to question someone's enthusism about OUR favorite car? Go put your t-tops in your berlinetta with iroc-z decals and go away. The f-body forums has plenty of folks like you and could use another one.

 

I don't think he was talking to you, he was talking to the guy that said a BOSS is just an appearance package.

 

 

LOLOL

 

No, I never saw the TV special, and I was a Mustang "enthusiast" probably long before you were even born. If being an "enthusiast" in your eyes means having the same attitude you have, I'd rather just be an owner. You kinda remind me of some of the Shelby owners I've met who think their sh*t don't stink because they spent too much money on their cars, while "all I have is a V6".

BTW, do you even have a Boss?

Finally, you really need to work on your reading comprehension - I never said a Boss was "just an appearance package". You now have my permission to stop being an asshat.

 

Thanks, I wasn't interested in the appearance stuff, but more the mechanical features that made a Boss different from a GT.

 

oh, he was talking to me in a previous post and to another poster.

MT GT/CS is an appearance package although the Boss also has an appearance package as well. With the goods to back it up...

Just like the app on the Ford website that allows you to customize your Mustang however you would like, i am doing the real thing.

 

Jsimmons this is what you wrote:
Besides the appearance stuff and some suspension changes, what makes a Boss a Boss? It's kinda like the Shelby GTS cars. They're actually just Mustangs with some appearance stuff on 'em. How are they any more of a Shelby than any other Mustang rolling down the street?

So ya you did kinda say its appearance package. Its way more then a modern Shelby. You would be surprised as to what went into developing the modern Boss 302. First thing the said was the wouldnt put that name on just any Mustang. It would have to be the most special Mustang ever to get tha name. And you can call your self a enthusiast all you want but there is no way you are trust me. You didnt even know what a R was. Im a Mustang nut. I didnt say anything nasty or wrong about u so relax. Im not even close to any modern Shelby owner and agree with u on them trust me. If your a real Stang nut you know the signfignce of the classic Mustangs. Sorry I dont mind a Stanger doing anything they want to there Stang just not put a Boss 302 name on it.
And to gobraphil your car is beautiful. LOVE all you have done to it. As Im a GT/CS vert owner and mine dont like a CS much either. Id love to have your car but IMO I just dont think anyone should put Boss 302 on there ride if its not....thats all. No reason to get mad as I think there is many that agree with me. And you can do what you want. Again just MO

 

Hence my original question - besides the obvious, what makes a Boss a "Boss"? BTW, don't feel compelled to respond to this particular point, because someone else already has.

If someone wants to put "BOSS" on their car, I don't really give a rat's ***. If that's what he wants on his car, it's his car, so more power to him. I personally wouldn't do it, because my car isn't one (and doesn't even come close to performing like one), but that's me.

I think that's a little over the top. If it meets the specs, who care who actually built it? In other words, if I bough a base v6 and then put all of the "Boss" parts in it, IMHO, it would be deserving of the badge. I feel the same way about any specialty Mustang.

Look, son. You know nothing about me, nor my familiarity/history with Mustangs (and other Ford performance cars). When someone says "R", it could mean ANYTHING. I personally don't consider anything made between 1974 and 2004 to be Mustangs (and if you were to press me, I would include anything made starting in 1971), so put that in your pipe and take big drag on it. I've even owned a couple of Fox-body 5-liter cars.

My last real Mustang was a daily-driver '65 R-model clone with a healthy 302/(factory)dual-quad, toploader, narrowed 9-inch 31-spine rear end with nickle gears and gusseted axle tubes, 4-wheel disc brakes, and a roll cage welded to the subframe. All of the removable body panels were replaced with 'glass parts, including the rear bumper, battery was relocated to the trunk, and the spare tire (an FIA requirement in case you weren't aware) was moved to the back seat area to improve weight distribution. I also ripped out all of the interior, and installed fiberglass racing seats (bolted directly to the reinforced floor pan) and five-point harnesses.

I did ALL of the work myself with help from friends (as opposed to being dropped off at a shop to have anything done, something many current S197 owners cannot claim), including completely rebuilding and modernizing the front suspension, rebuilding the transmission and rear end, converting over to disc brakes, all the body work, and tested innumerable induction systems, including a couple of cross-ram intakes with dual Holly 600's, a tri-power intake with three Holley 2bbls, and even four downdraft Webers before setting on the matched 450CFM Carter AFB carbs. I also ran a factory dual point distributor because I considered putting electronic ignition of a "significant Mustang" to be the mark of a *****.

When I sold the car in 1988 (due to a divorce), it was to a GT-350 owner who said my car was FASTER than his Shelby, and it handled and stopped better besides. It was painted and badged as a GT-350. So don't even for a hot minute think *I* am not familiar with "significant Mustangs". I think now you might start to be understanding where you went wrong in your assumptions.

Leave the word "Mustang" out of that claim, and I'll agree with it.

Well, it's kinda too late for that, sparky. I'm about three steps beyond annoyed.

What?! A self-proclaimed "mustang nut" that doesn't personally know any Shelby owners? You shouldn't even be allowed to own a Mustang if that's the case. (See how stupid something like that sounds?)

I not only know the significance of the classic Mustangs, I've owned a bunch, and driven a bunch more (starting in 1974), and that doesn't even count the countless other performance Fords I've driven.

So it's okay if someone builds a Roush, Saleen, or Shelby clone?

And then...

And what's the point you're struggling to make? Don't do it, but it's your car so do what you want? And if he does, will that bring down your wrath upon him? If that was the case, and I were him, I'd certainly be shaking in my boots... Not.

 

 

People hate my car at times and they give there 2 cents...ok I take it and dont mind. I give my 2 cents and wow you have guys say things that make them sound like they dont know much so I yried o help calify and I get **** on...What ever this is why its better to just read and not to talk. I said IMO thats all. Loosen the pants

 

And to gobraphil you can do what ever you want to your Stang and again I really like it. BUT just IMO I dont agree with putting Boss 302 on it....but its yours. And by me telling you this sorry if it bothered you. And sorry others get so mad at others who have an opion.

 

Saleen and roush are more parts companies that put out cars every now and then. Shelby makes parts but is more a trim level since its OEM. The boss is also a OEM trim level and since its a numbered car it shouldn't be copied or cloned. Its a respect thing and a enthusiasts should know better.

Back to the question of what makes a boss a boss. Its the motor, suspension, limited nature and the race ability.

Why stop at boss??? You should put Ferrari on the car or some lambo badges.

 

Just a reminder to keep the conversation civil . . . .

 

My computer keyboard is tougher than your computer keyboard!! I'm rubber and your glue....


OP, do what you want to your car and enjoy. Having owned one of these fantastic 2012 Boss 302 (YellowBlaze #903) cars I personally would not put "Boss" on it... but thats me.

 

"this is a house of learned doctors"

"he said he was going to take over the family business. But your a doctor"

 

Hahaha +1. These forums get so heated!! Better not step on anyone's toes

 

Steppin' on toes is fine, but do it with some respect...

 

Ummm, yeah you did basically say the Boss was an appearance package and some suspension changes. So why claim that you didn't say it.

And if you ask if I ever owned a Boss the answer is yes... 2012 Yellow Blaze #903.

Now with the 2013 you can get closer to owning the performance of a Boss 302 from the factory without owning a real Boss... but I still wouldn't put Boss 302 decals on it.... Track Pack decals maybe.. but not Boss 302

 

I'm going to slap Shelby badges on my car because I wanted to order it with a 5.0 engine but Ford doesn't make it so it's okay!