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Old 1/14/13 | 04:09 AM
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HID Kit Help

So I ordered an HID kit from DDM Tuning. It's a 35W 5,000K H13 Bi-Xenon kit. The installation went well and quickly and everything is working properly and I'm happy with the light output. However, I'm having issues with the high beams. Or maybe the low beams. I'm really not sure.

This is what my low beams look like:


As you can see, the light pattern is well, non existent as there's glare everywhere and there's random color which I'm thinking is a reflection from the amber turn signals or something.

Here's my high beams:


As you can see, it's a much more focused pattern, nice cutoff, and practically no glare. Note: Both photos of the beams are with the lights adjusted low so that the high beams are at low beam, normal driving level as I've been driving around with the high beams (technically) on so that I'm not bothering other drivers like I would be with the low beams, and not to mention, the light output is dramatically better.

Does anyone know what's going on with this? Are the high beam and low beam connectors switched and the pins need to be swapped? Do I need capped bulbs to eliminate the glare when using low beams? If so, why is the high beam so much sharper and focused?

Any help would greatly be appreciated! :worship:worship:worship
I really want these to work properly as the light output is sooo much better than stock and I love the way it looks. Thanks in advance!

This is what it looks like with the "high beams" on:


And this is what it's like with the "low beams":

When putting the low beams on, the lights physically move down and there's almost no usable light. I'd think if it were reversed, I'd be able to see better with the low beams, or they would at least not go lower. I'm really confused currently.

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Old 1/14/13 | 05:34 AM
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Putting HID's into a non projector style headlight housing produces what you are experiencing; a poor "splash" of light with your low beams. HID's are designed to work in projection type housings.

If you want HID's, then get the housings from a 2013 Mustang; they are true HID housings.

You'd be better off to go back to stock untill you buy the correct headlight housings. A cheaper and better light projection with your existing housings would be to buy a set of Sylvania Silverstare Ultras:

http://www.sylvania.com/en-us/produc...-products.aspx

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Old 1/14/13 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucko
Putting HID's into a non projector style headlight housing produces what you are experiencing; a poor "splash" of light with your low beams. HID's are designed to work in projection type housings.

If you want HID's, then get the housings from a 2013 Mustang; they are true HID housings.

You'd be better off to go back to stock untill you buy the correct headlight housings. A cheaper and better light projection with your existing housings would be to buy a set of Sulvania Silverstare Ultras:

http://www.sylvania.com/en-us/produc...-products.aspx
I'm well aware of everything you've stated. Thanks for contributing nothing to this thread and answering my questions.
Old 1/14/13 | 06:27 AM
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Someone's self conscious...

He didn't say "omg u suck, only noobs use regular housings" in fact he didn't even come close to judging you about it. Bucko simply stated that the solution to your issue would be projectors, which is true, and a valid contribution to your thread.
Old 1/14/13 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Fullahead
Someone's self conscious...

He didn't say "omg u suck, only noobs use regular housings" in fact he didn't even come close to judging you about it. Bucko simply stated that the solution to your issue would be projectors, which is true, and a valid contribution to your thread.
I guess I shouldn't state how much it blinds oncoming drivers either? Put them in the correct housings or don't do it at all. I wish police ticketed more for this. (directed at OP, not the quote )
Old 1/14/13 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sav

I'm well aware of everything you've stated. Thanks for contributing nothing to this thread and answering my questions.
There is a very simple fix to your issue that cost $23. However, since you have such appreciation for someone who did contribute I shall steer clear of telling you. You'll figure it out eventually; I'm sure you have the necessary equipment to think.
Old 1/14/13 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucko
Putting HID's into a non projector style headlight housing produces what you are experiencing; a poor "splash" of light with your low beams. HID's are designed to work in projection type housings.

If you want HID's, then get the housings from a 2013 Mustang; they are true HID housings.

You'd be better off to go back to stock untill you buy the correct headlight housings. A cheaper and better light projection with your existing housings would be to buy a set of Sulvania Silverstare Ultras:

http://www.sylvania.com/en-us/produc...-products.aspx
+1000

Do yourself, and everyone that shares the road with you, a favor and get real projector housing. I probably see a dozen cars with HIDs in a halogen housing a day and it is VERY annoying+dangerous. Your mustang looks horrible with those blinding HIDs man, just being honest.

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Old 1/14/13 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sav

I'm well aware of everything you've stated. Thanks for contributing nothing to this thread and answering my questions.
Well it looks to me like you didn't fill the housing with enough refraction fluid, or you didn't seal it properly and it leaked out...
Old 1/14/13 | 02:28 PM
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You all sound like a bunch of ********.




Geez.
Old 1/14/13 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
You all sound like a bunch of ********.

Geez.
I'm resorting to elementary school yard tactics,...the OP started it. Lol
Old 1/15/13 | 10:48 AM
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All I'll say is if you don't hear a click coming from the headlight housings when engaging the highbeam, then that means the HID bulb isn't moving to create the high beam.

also, are you sure it is the high/low beam set up? maybe it's just the fixed beam version they sent you. they do tend to f'up some orders.

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Old 1/15/13 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
You all sound like a bunch of ********.

Geez.
I'd say the reaction was pretty tame, compared to the reactions of pretty much every forum ever when this question inevitably pops up.

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Old 1/15/13 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Fullahead
I'd say the reaction was pretty tame, compared to the reactions of pretty much every forum ever when this question inevitably pops up.
It wasn't the question that got a bad response. It was the **** statement he made after someone legitimately tried to offer him some help.
Old 1/15/13 | 06:48 PM
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Good thing I'm not a cop in your area. I'd pull over every PUNK I see blinding people with these Autozone HID kits and put my knuckles in their faces. There is nothing more dangerous than blinding or distracting people trying to drive - all in the name of trendyness. Do us all a favor: if you want to cause accidents in the name of style, have your GF walk around without a bra.
Old 1/15/13 | 07:23 PM
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Good thing I'm not a cop in your area. I'd pull over every PUNK I see blinding people with these Autozone HID kits and put my knuckles in their faces. There is nothing more dangerous than blinding or distracting people trying to drive - all in the name of trendyness. Do us all a favor: if you want to cause accidents in the name of style, have your GF walk around without a bra.
What if their gf is a ugly beached whale?
Old 1/15/13 | 07:30 PM
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What if their gf is a ugly beached whale?
Old 1/16/13 | 09:22 AM
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What sucks about this thread is there are people who aren't the OP and might get insight from real answers. Me personally, I would have liked to see this $23 fix that doesn't involve expensive housing replacements..
Old 1/16/13 | 10:32 AM
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I'm a little confused by the terminology used in this thread. I know everything except I'm a little confused about the "HID housing". The lights you see that have the bulb looking housings are projector head lights. I can get those for my mustang, but heard the HID lights themselves are too long to fit in the projector style housing. So really what I'm asking is, when you say HID housing are you referring to the projector style housing? I don't really know anything about HID kits, but I do know what projector style housings look like. Also that the new stands come with HIDS but it might be a projector style housing that was made to accommodate a HID light?

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Old 1/16/13 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMuffinMan
I'm a little confused by the terminology used in this thread. I know everything except I'm a little confused about the "HID housing". The lights you see that have the bulb looking housings are projector head lights. I can get those for my mustang, but heard the HID lights themselves are too long to fit in the projector style housing. So really what I'm asking is, when you say HID housing are you referring to the projector style housing? I don't really know anything about HID kits, but I do know what projector style housings look like. Also that the new stands come with HIDS but it might be a projector style housing that was made to accommodate a HID light?
You're on the right track, typically that is what people mean by "HID housing" -though technically not a proper term imo. Some aftermarket projector lens housings are still only designed for halogen bulbs, which may be where you heard of the clearance issue. This is why many people recommend retrofits or OEM projector headlights. I would go so far as to say most aftermarket projector headlights will accept HID bulbs, but there's a chance I'm wrong.

There have been, and may still be, a few reflector housing headlights with HID bulbs OEM from companies like Volvo, but they have been specifically designed for the for the geometry of an HID bulb and this does not translate to all reflector housings.

It is possible the whoever the OP bought his kit from sent him the wrong one, adding to his pre-existing glare issue. The fact of the matter is that a proper projector lens is the solution, but this costs money, is widely known, and often shoved down people's throats when the topic comes up. I feel the OP knew this going in, but didn't want to hear it, hence his uncouth response to a genuine solution. I could be wrong though...
Old 1/16/13 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Fullahead

You're on the right track, typically that is what people mean by "HID housing" -though technically not a proper term imo. Some aftermarket projector lens housings are still only designed for halogen bulbs, which may be where you heard of the clearance issue. This is why many people recommend retrofits or OEM projector headlights. I would go so far as to say most aftermarket projector headlights will accept HID bulbs, but there's a chance I'm wrong.

There have been, and may still be, a few reflector housing headlights with HID bulbs OEM from companies like Volvo, but they have been specifically designed for the for the geometry of an HID bulb and this does not translate to all reflector housings.

It is possible the whoever the OP bought his kit from sent him the wrong one, adding to his pre-existing glare issue. The fact of the matter is that a proper projector lens is the solution, but this costs money, is widely known, and often shoved down people's throats when the topic comes up. I feel the OP knew this going in, but didn't want to hear it, hence his uncouth response to a genuine solution. I could be wrong though...
Thanks for clearing it up for me. As for needing a projector housing why is that needed for a HID bulb?



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