BBK Big Bore throttle Body
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BBK Big Bore throttle Body
As anyone installed one of these on their 2011-2012 V6? It's part number 1822. Apparently on a stock engine it get around 10 hp and 20 ft lbs. just want to know what you think orbit over all.
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
I don't believe it could possibly boost the power by that much. I call BS on those numbers.
Waste of $$$ for any normally aspirated V6, IMO.
Waste of $$$ for any normally aspirated V6, IMO.
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I've thought about getting one but according to what other are saying, not worth it. I searched through the Forum and most people say they are not getting any extra power.
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You have to think logical to understand why it really doesn't work.
Your engine is only capable of pulling in so much air naturally asperated. Your stock throttle body is already oversized for what your engine can breath in. Making the throttle body bigger isn't going to help because the engine is already getting all the air it can use with the stock throttle body.
Your engine is only capable of pulling in so much air naturally asperated. Your stock throttle body is already oversized for what your engine can breath in. Making the throttle body bigger isn't going to help because the engine is already getting all the air it can use with the stock throttle body.
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Originally Posted by texastboneking
... Your stock throttle body is already oversized for what your engine can breath in. Making the throttle body bigger isn't going to help because the engine is already getting all the air it can use with the stock throttle body.
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Originally Posted by Fintile
Never knew that. Most cars see some sort of gain even if it is small. I've found BBTBs work seam to work best under forced induction. In rare cases do they work for N/A applications. Thanks for the input.
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When Jay from JLT was designing his intake for the new v6 he realized that using a larger intake diameter was giving the car way more air than it could handle. Most of the gains from aftermarket intakes for our car is due to the open air element design since the stock intake is already pretty good.
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Ok cool. Well you guys have helped a lot. As cool as it would be to have one I can save my money for something that will suit me better. Next step is getting the Bama tuner.
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I actually bought one from auto anything for about 300 with some discounts and I gotta say I think It was a worthwhile upgrade, car sounds a deeper and more aggressive,getting about another mile (nothing amazing) in mpg and the torque in the lower end is surprisingly noticeable! It might be the placebo effect or something but I do think it was a worthwhile purchase for me. There's also a thread in another forum where a couple of guys think it was a worthwhile upgrade also ill link it if you want.
Btw 2013 v-6 pp
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I will say this. My car seemed to run like crap below 2500 RPM's before. The RPM's bounced all over, when idling it would dip to about 300 and back up over 1000. When first accelerating it always felt like it lagged in response. I installed this along with the hybrid Bama tune last week and my car is running a million times better. The idle sounds freakn' awesome now with a nice rumble that never heard before. And punching it at lower RPM's feels immediately responsive and extremely smooth.
Also, at the very top end (about 6700 RPM's), I've also noticed a difference. Before once I hit 6700, I felt a peak and slight lag and my engine had this gargling sound at high RPM's. Almost like when you need to clear your throat or have something in it gasping for air. Now it pulls hard all the way to the redline and sounds freakn' awesome. No more gargling up there.![Big Grin](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
So my opinions are that I feel a definite difference at really low RPM's during idle, when punching it up to about 3500 RPM's, and the very top end when I felt like there was about 300 RPM's worth of window at the very top that I seemed to be missing.
So I'm a happy camper.
Also, at the very top end (about 6700 RPM's), I've also noticed a difference. Before once I hit 6700, I felt a peak and slight lag and my engine had this gargling sound at high RPM's. Almost like when you need to clear your throat or have something in it gasping for air. Now it pulls hard all the way to the redline and sounds freakn' awesome. No more gargling up there.
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So my opinions are that I feel a definite difference at really low RPM's during idle, when punching it up to about 3500 RPM's, and the very top end when I felt like there was about 300 RPM's worth of window at the very top that I seemed to be missing.
So I'm a happy camper.
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When Jay from JLT was designing his intake for the new v6 he realized that using a larger intake diameter was giving the car way more air than it could handle. Most of the gains from aftermarket intakes for our car is due to the open air element design since the stock intake is already pretty good.
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Their really quite effective on the low end of the rpm range and the power cares all the way to the red line. The engine can't possibly use that much air
mine uses it just fine. I have no intetion of taking it back off the engine, but then I did actually put one on!
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Their really quite effective on the low end of the rpm range and the power cares all the way to the red line. The engine can't possibly use that much air
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My views have changed about the BBK TB. A lot of people are saying it brings the torque curve down to lower r.p.m.'s, which sounds good to me. I'll be getting one for my birthday in April
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ok so...i got my longtube headers and catless x pipe from bbk...put them on and felt like i dropped my bottom end soooooooooooooo much i couldnt stand it...then i put this bbk throttle body on and WAMMO huge difference....(i also got a custom tune to get feul/air in balance after...but still....no joke it was like night and day...one example...i could stall my car trying to let the clutch our without touching the gas...now i can go up to my very steep driveway let the clutch out and get out of the car and the car will IDLE UP THE FREAKIN HILL ON ITS OWN...i love it and will say get it and then get a tune for it!
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ok so...i got my longtube headers and catless x pipe from bbk...put them on and felt like i dropped my bottom end soooooooooooooo much i couldnt stand it...then i put this bbk throttle body on and WAMMO huge difference....(i also got a custom tune to get feul/air in balance after...but still....no joke it was like night and day...one example...i could stall my car trying to let the clutch our without touching the gas...now i can go up to my very steep driveway let the clutch out and get out of the car and the car will IDLE UP THE FREAKIN HILL ON ITS OWN...i love it and will say get it and then get a tune for it!
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This is what happened to me.
I installed my BBK long tube headers with their 'catted' shorty x-pipe. Instant power, even without my new tunes. Got my new tunes and drove it for a few days. I started thinking, the headers and x-pipe made my Magnaflow 'street series' about 1/3rd louder, so i installed my factory mufflers just to see how they would sound. I drove around with them for a while. They not only sounded like crap, i also noticed a loss of low end torque. I reinstalled the Magnaflow 'street series' and my low end torque was back
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Christmas, i got some Magnaflow 'competition' (muffler delete) axle backs. I love the sound but, lost low end torque
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I feel if you have the factory exhaust and cats, you'll feel extra power with the Magnaflow 'competition' axle backs. There is a fine line between too much back pressure and not enough. Either way, you'll lose some low end power (torque) if you go too much.
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You can.
This is what happened to me.
I installed my BBK long tube headers with their 'catted' shorty x-pipe. Instant power, even without my new tunes. Got my new tunes and drove it for a few days. I started thinking, the headers and x-pipe made my Magnaflow 'street series' about 1/3rd louder, so i installed my factory mufflers just to see how they would sound. I drove around with them for a while. They not only sounded like crap, i also noticed a loss of low end torque. I reinstalled the Magnaflow 'street series' and my low end torque was back
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Christmas, i got some Magnaflow 'competition' (muffler delete) axle backs. I love the sound but, lost low end torque
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I feel if you have the factory exhaust and cats, you'll feel extra power with the Magnaflow 'competition' axle backs. There is a fine line between too much back pressure and not enough. Either way, you'll lose some low end power (torque) if you go too much.
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ok so...i got my longtube headers and catless x pipe from bbk...put them on and felt like i dropped my bottom end soooooooooooooo much i couldnt stand it...then i put this bbk throttle body on and WAMMO huge difference....(i also got a custom tune to get feul/air in balance after...but still....no joke it was like night and day...one example...i could stall my car trying to let the clutch our without touching the gas...now i can go up to my very steep driveway let the clutch out and get out of the car and the car will IDLE UP THE FREAKIN HILL ON ITS OWN...i love it and will say get it and then get a tune for it!
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