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Are you sure you want to run that 93 octane race tune? Article: "octane fraud"

Old Jan 5, 2012 | 05:53 AM
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Are you sure you want to run that 93 octane race tune? Article: "octane fraud"

http://www.khou.com/news/Records-sho...-70233502.html

So... any thoughts on how to safeguard against this?
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 06:20 AM
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I'm convinced this happens everywhere.
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigblue11
I'm convinced this happens everywhere.
It looks like you're running a tune though...
Isn't this dangerous?
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 08:17 AM
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Very! I stick with only one brand around here. We have had cases here where stations had diesel being pumped from 93 octane.
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 08:33 AM
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Yeah, this is a very difficult issue and I am sure it happens nationwide. I am always nervous.
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 10:23 AM
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Very! I stick with only one brand around here. We have had cases here where stations had diesel being pumped from 93 octane.
So..you're "very" sure that you want to run your tune? How do you know that your station is safe?

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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 10:39 AM
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With the 10% ethanol content in almost all gas now, none of it is that safe. It has a higher octane rating so it bumps the rating but doesn't burn like gasoline. So even 93 is a false 93 gasoline content.
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 11:07 AM
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Interesting. I always put Shell in the stang so now this has me concerned.
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 12:55 PM
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Interesting. I always put Shell in the stang so now this has me concerned.
same here. I always trust)ed) Shell, so now I am concerned as well.
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 01:15 PM
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With the 10% ethanol content in almost all gas now, none of it is that safe. It has a higher octane rating so it bumps the rating but doesn't burn like gasoline. So even 93 is a false 93 gasoline content.
Yeah here all you could get was 91. But then when they mandated corn gas the pumps quietly went to 92. I would never get a tune for greater than 91. Too bad the tuners don't adjust like the factory Adaptive Spark Ignition system does.

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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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Yeah here all you could get was 91. But then when they mandated corn gas the pumps quietly went to 92. I would never get a tune for greater than 91. Too bad the tuners don't adjust like the factory Adaptive Spark Ignition system does.
Ditto...I have 93 fuel available but i have always had a dose of skepticism and never tuned for greater than 91...
...but if you get a tank full of 87-90 and heat soak your motor, you could still be in trouble.

Why cant the custom tunes use the "adaptive spark" timing adjustability?
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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Ok that's it i'm buying sonoco fuel only from here on out. If its good enough for nascar it will be fine for my stang!!!
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 08:22 PM
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Crap!
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 08:34 PM
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Well I can assure you this doesn't happen at all stations.
Buy from a reputable station and I would say you get what you are paying for.
I am part of a family that owns and operates 11 stations. We also supply fuel to approx. 25 more and I can assure you that we would never mix the two grades. If a load doesn't fit into tank it will be dropped at another station or returned to our bulk plant.
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 12:43 PM
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Just keep ur gas receipts if so
Etching happens u have proof u last bought gas where and what grade!
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 01:38 PM
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I only use BP!
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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A few of the local speed shops around here test the fuel from local stations. Chevron seems to do a better job of keeping the advertised fuel ratings.
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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So..you're "very" sure that you want to run your tune? How do you know that your station is safe?

You know i posted about gas mileage a while back and was heckled. People said "he is worried about mileage and tuned". I sometimes wonder is it the gas that is giving me an issue. I only get 17 hwy mpg and that's using cruise control. I'm never sure what is going on. I almost want to take this CAI off and de-tune it.
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 07:50 PM
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I can say that I know first hand that this doesn't ever happen, at least here in MI. There are state inspections that look for this type of thing. The inspectors just drop in at any given time. It's UNHEARD of in MI. You just can't get away with it and the risk aren't worth the profit to be made if this was carried out. They just don't dump 87 in a 93 tank LMAO. That's craziness!
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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I had to get an updated tune today so I changed it from 93 to 91 just to be safe. Plus with this winter blend fuel I don't want to take any chances.
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