This is why shocks matter.....
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I wasn't tense... Just one of those issues with reading a post, you don't get inflection. 
I didn't mean to sound stressed, or think you were trying to get me worked up.
Ultralites are dual stage springs... they are wound in such a way that makes them more linear than not in actual function, but the fact is they are no linear springs and the rates you often see quoted for them do not accurately portray the working rates.
I didn't mean to sound stressed, or think you were trying to get me worked up.
Ultralites are dual stage springs... they are wound in such a way that makes them more linear than not in actual function, but the fact is they are no linear springs and the rates you often see quoted for them do not accurately portray the working rates.
I know. I was just teasing.I'm trying to figure out which lowering springs to go with for my 2011 (I know I'm going with the Koni's again). I loved the Steeda Sports on my 2007, but am considering giving a different spring a shot this time around, such as the Ultralites.
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Well, you know my number...
Ultralites are a little lower and a little stiffer. I prefer the Sports, and you clearly liked them. But if you want to try something else we can certainly talk it over.
Ultralites are a little lower and a little stiffer. I prefer the Sports, and you clearly liked them. But if you want to try something else we can certainly talk it over.
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Hmmmm, that's one I have not yet been presented with in such a blunt way. We are clearly trying to fit a budget, without compromising how the car works
I'd recommend the STR.T/Sport spring combo over the Koni Sport/stock spring combo. for your use.
Here's why: The OEM springs are very stiff in the rear relative to the front. It sits very high. As good as adjustable shocks are they can't change spring rates.
The STR.T's will give more rebound damping (not adjustable, but better than OEM and suitable for controlling the springs well) which helps the car feel more tied-down, stable. And the ride a bit better too.
The spring change will get the front to rear wheel rates more balanced (and not pushy or understeery at all). The Cg will be lowered (and that's not a bad thing in such a heavy car). Roll and some brake dive will be cut. Dampers will also help dive in that it slows it down, but doesn't ultimately cut any out. And just so you know, springs won't cut it all out either--most is just a function of a lack of anti-dive in the front and rear suspensions.
We are clearly trying to fit a budget, without compromising how the car works I'd recommend the STR.T/Sport spring combo over the Koni Sport/stock spring combo. for your use.
Here's why: The OEM springs are very stiff in the rear relative to the front. It sits very high. As good as adjustable shocks are they can't change spring rates.
The STR.T's will give more rebound damping (not adjustable, but better than OEM and suitable for controlling the springs well) which helps the car feel more tied-down, stable. And the ride a bit better too.
The spring change will get the front to rear wheel rates more balanced (and not pushy or understeery at all). The Cg will be lowered (and that's not a bad thing in such a heavy car). Roll and some brake dive will be cut. Dampers will also help dive in that it slows it down, but doesn't ultimately cut any out. And just so you know, springs won't cut it all out either--most is just a function of a lack of anti-dive in the front and rear suspensions.
Do you really need the Adjustable Panhard Bar if you lower the car?
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But, not everyone's car ends up that way, due to production tolerances. Some have not NEEDED the bar. The aftermarket pieces are generally stiffer, though.
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Took me a minute, but: M-18000-C
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=9738
They seem limited on the adjust ability. Not really a necessary question, but I thought some might be interested if it was a somewhat worthwhile entry into adjustable shocks.
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=9738
They seem limited on the adjust ability. Not really a necessary question, but I thought some might be interested if it was a somewhat worthwhile entry into adjustable shocks.
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Anything to note about the Tokico shocks as opposed to the Koni Sport Adjustable shocks/struts?
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Strano can you provide the part number for the koni sport ( yellows ) shocks F/R? I cant seem to find them anywhere. I see that you have them on your site but want to do a bit of price shopping. Thanks. I've Ran a set of koni's on every car I've ever lowered.
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Part number is GFKYSLF.***
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What an idiot !!! I can't believe you could ask somebody something so stupid.
I have been reading most Sam's posts and he is a wealth of information. The guy spills his guts for all of us to benefit from and offers to help in any way he can so we can get the best results from our cars. He sells quality parts at fair prices and his customer service is second to none. His dedication to helping people alone is worth way more then the couple of dollars you might save buying a part from someone else. He is one of the main reasons I decided to even join this forum to begin with.
If you took the time to actually read about the parts on his website you might have seen that he describes the Koni shocks AKA yellows !
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Haha, good call. I think they are re-re-badged according to the Ford site. Coming from the manufacturer of the suspension for the FR500C (not the shocks I pointed out, just the company).
Anything to note about the Tokico shocks as opposed to the Koni Sport Adjustable shocks/struts?
Anything to note about the Tokico shocks as opposed to the Koni Sport Adjustable shocks/struts?
