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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 01:00 PM
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MGW shifter or Ford Racing shifter (Barton)

Which shifter would you say is better.
I'm leaning towards the ford racing shifter.
I'm not concerned with cost whats a couple hundred bucks compared to the thousands spent on the car, I just want a good shifter, the stock ones are total garbage.
Help me out TMS!
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 01:21 PM
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You can search the various forums and see how good MGW is. let me put it this way, there's a MGW shifter........................................... .................................................. .................................................. ....then there's everybody else! I plan to get one this spring at the same time I do gears. Tired of being locked out of 3rd under hard acceleration and I have the stock shifter with the Barton 2-post bracket!
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 01:21 PM
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The Ford racing shifter is a re-branded Barton shifter. It replaces the top part of the shifter assembly only.
The MGW shifter is a complete assembly and performs a lot better.
I've had both on my car but the Barton only lasted a week before I got rid of it.
The topic of which is better has been debated endlessly and the MGW always comes out on top.
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 02:12 PM
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I will say it again, The MGW is the only aftermarket shifter that eliminates all of the stock units shortcomings, period.
If you remember the old days of real transmission mounted shifters then this shifter is for you.


"When you can't settle for anything but the very best" MGW.
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ajcruz1
You can search the various forums and see how good MGW is. let me put it this way, there's a MGW shifter........................................... .................................................. .................................................. ....then there's everybody else! I plan to get one this spring at the same time I do gears. Tired of being locked out of 3rd under hard acceleration and I have the stock shifter with the Barton 2-post bracket!
That's not entirely true. MGW is excellent however lots of people love the steeda since it doesn't shorten to much from stock (20%). Each have pros and cons. MGW for example is expensive, has a more complex install and is complex with its adjustments. Steeda isn't as "perfect" but it is a simple change that makes throws a bit shorter.

Personally I like the stock shifter. I got the steeda bracket with red insert which adds zero sound or vibration and makes things much smoother. Can't go wrong with the MGW but just something else to think about.

Also a suggestion, your car isn't even built yet right? It's easy (and fun) to look at mods. But I'd drive it around some before you buy a bunch of stuff. You might like the stock shifter like me.

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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 02:51 PM
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I had an MGW shifter in my '07 GT and personally didn't like it. The quality is definitely awesome, but I didn't like how short it made the throws and how notchy it was. I much prefer the stock shifter in my Bullitt. It's much smoother and easier to shift. Not saying one is better than the other, just saying the MGW wasn't a good fit for me. I know almost every person on here will suggest the MGW though.
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 04:40 PM
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I love my MGW. Shifts are definitely not too short. I knew right away that my stock shifter had to go. I went for a hard second gear pull a few days into ownership and got locked out of third like nobody's business. I chalked it up to user error on an unfamiliar tranny, but after several more lockouts I knew it was time for a new shifter.
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by typesredline

Also a suggestion, your car isn't even built yet right? It's easy (and fun) to look at mods. But I'd drive it around some before you buy a bunch of stuff. You might like the stock shifter like me.
I might not have my new one yet but I have logged a lot of miles in these lattest gen mustangs. That's why I decided to order one, there great. I also have been building and racing cars for years! The stock shifter might be fine for some, I just don't care for it at all. It seems like a major short coming in a other wise very good from the factory car.

I do appreciate every ones insight it will hopefully help me make a decision.
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 08:52 PM
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Have a read and make an educated decision.


http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...ll-review.html
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 11:34 PM
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My only question with the MGW shifter is if changing that whole shifter unit would open you up to void your warranty if you ever had a internal problem with the transmission.
The benefit I see to the Motorsport (Barton) shifter is that you have the Motorsport war entry to back you up if you have any problems.
But with that said the MGW shifter looks like a much better and complete fix for the down fall of that transmissions.
Very tough decision!
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ElkGroveFordGuy
My only question with the MGW shifter is if changing that whole shifter unit would open you up to void your warranty if you ever had a internal problem with the transmission. The benefit I see to the Motorsport (Barton) shifter is that you have the Motorsport war entry to back you up if you have any problems. But with that said the MGW shifter looks like a much better and complete fix for the down fall of that transmissions. Very tough decision!
When it comes to daily driving feel, the majority of my experience is with Honda manuals aka buttery perfection. I'm not a huge fan of notchy or mechanical feeling shifters. I give this description so you can class yourself as "like me" or "the opposite" in preference.

I already said how I do like the stock THROW, but the feel is meh. The bracket alone fixed it. I went steeda so that I could use the less stiff red insert for nvh reasons. The reason I'd go with the steeda shifter is because it is almost identical to stock except the joint is higher making for slightly less in throw. Since I don't really feel the need though I haven't gotten that.

I've personally tried the Barton/FRPP shifter and I hate it and many levels. First of all it is the notchiest thing ever. It's even worse than Subaru shifters if that gives a reference point. Second is the throws are too short. I'm not anti short throws. In my RSX type s which already had very short throws, I reduced them by 45%. But for some reason the Barton just feels weird to me. You loose all of the positive engagement feel.

I haven't tried the MGW but it's a middle ground between the steeda and Barton for throw and very solid.

Bottom line, if you are like me with how you want your shifter to feel, and don't like stock, I'd personally do steeda, then MGW...............then Barton.
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 08:06 AM
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Warranty wise I don't think the MGW would void it any more than other shifters out there. Just because it replaces more is irrelevant IMO. The key is to find a good dealer that follows the law and won't care about aftermarket stuff unless it directly affected the "broken" part.

You'll notice on other threads about the dash display damage or wheels paint issues that some dealers just fix it and other take pictures and send them in. They do this because they know it will get denied and get them out if the work. Or they're scared to do it and not get payed by ford aka they don't know what they're doing. The good dealers see the issue and fix it. All dealers are empowered to do this. Few care enough however.

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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 08:24 AM
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Two items on my car, ok maybe more then two, that I really won't do without....

My MGW shifter and my Borla S-Type Catback.

The MGW shifter is a work of art. It is a beautify mechanical piece.

Its a shame its covered by "the boot".

Installing the MGW shifter yourself is a right of passage to be a true mustang lover. You've not experienced life until you install "the boot".

The MGW shifter is worth every penny and all the time and effort it takes to install. As a bonus if you are close enough to GA, MGW will install the shifter for you, for free. How awesome is that.
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by typesredline
That's not entirely true. MGW is excellent however lots of people love the steeda since it doesn't shorten to much from stock (20%). Each have pros and cons. MGW for example is expensive, has a more complex install and is complex with its adjustments. Steeda isn't as "perfect" but it is a simple change that makes throws a bit shorter.

Personally I like the stock shifter. I got the steeda bracket with red insert which adds zero sound or vibration and makes things much smoother. Can't go wrong with the MGW but just something else to think about.

Also a suggestion, your car isn't even built yet right? It's easy (and fun) to look at mods. But I'd drive it around some before you buy a bunch of stuff. You might like the stock shifter like me.
I agree. I went with the Steeda shifter and bracket (black bushing) for the ease of install and couldn't be more pleased. It does exactly what I wanted - a shorter, more accurate shift and no missing third. It doesn't shift by itself, cure cancer or add a couple of inches to your wiener like the MGW but it does exactly what you want a shifter to do.
You can't go wrong with any of the shifters mentioned - they all work well and make the car more enjoyable to drive.
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 12:34 PM
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I have had three Steedas, very pleased with them.
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 12:47 PM
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I've had MGW & Steeda shifters in the past, both really nice but the MGW was a little better in quality. I love my current barton shifter, Would buy it again in a heartbeat
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 04:59 PM
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It doesn't shift by itself, cure cancer or add a couple of inches to your wiener like the MGW
I don't know where you're getting your info, but the MGW certainly doesn't shift by itself or cure cancer.
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 05:20 PM
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I don't know where you're getting your info, but the MGW certainly doesn't shift by itself or cure cancer.
It cures mt-82 cancer. Ok well maybe not cures, but it sure does a good job at prolonging the cancer onset.
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jmaStang
I don't know where you're getting your info, but the MGW certainly doesn't shift by itself or cure cancer.
And if you own a Mustang you don't need an extra couple of inches!!
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Len
And if you own a Mustang you don't need an extra couple of inches!!
Some would say that you own a mustang because you do...lol
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